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Quoted: It's cheeseburger. They have a word for cheese but just decided "fuck it" use English. View Quote That’s what happens when you’re a conquered people and you have to give up your job as chief engineer at the V-1 rocket factory and take a job at a burger joint in Hamburg or on a hotdog cart in Vienna selling sandwiches to PFCs from Cheboygan. |
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Op romanticises an insular society and its overcomplicated tradition bound grammar and expressions.
Op would seem surprised at how many different meanings the simple English words can encompass. My wife can use 'oh dear' to clearly express her emotions, with meanings ranging from mild disappointment, to glee at another's downfall and the often used 'You are going to regret this for the rest of your miserable existence'. |
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Quoted: You have to practically use every single English word to describe it and even then it falls short, inner strength tenacity enduring perseverance will willpower blah blah blah The thing I can think of is "imperishable" in a poetic light. View Quote The word you're looking for there is in Finnish, it's sisu. Bro, English just steals all the good words. |
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OP, if you don't like it learn another language and use that.. Nobody is forcing you to use English.
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Quoted: It is ridiculously complicated for pathetic reasons View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Plus it's an implied subject culture. Took me a long time to get the 'vibe' when living over there. You miss a LOT when you don't understand but a small fraction of what is being said, mostly because it deviates so much from 'proper' Japanese. |
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Quoted: Quit trying so hard. You literally answered your own statement. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162439/Screenshot_20220406-092450_Chrome_jpg-2339596.JPG View Quote I can shorten that down to two words: shit happens |
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Gallagher best comedian ever lived |
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Quoted: OP It Cannot Be Helped View Quote Also: Shit's fucked, FUBAR, a bed of nails, a hard row to hoe, catch 22, dead in the water, a counsel of despair, etc. These all describe all or a part of the concept with which you're enamored. Some also describe situations which are not accurately translated into other languages. There are plenty of legitimate arguments against English, your over-romanticized idea of foreign languages are not among them. For example, look at the Grammar and word tense fuckery of English. Some phrases that "don't have a translation into English" are based in fatalistic cultures. The English language and culture doesn't so easily resign itself to unwinnable/unfixable situations, unless they benefit the nobles. |
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The English equivalent of 'shikata ga nai' is:
"Que sera, sera"... (OK, now I've really done it...) |
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If you think English is crude stay away from Russian and Russian idioms. lol
"Why are you f@cking a cow" Ty chto mumu yebyosh? LOL |
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Quoted: Hence is why we are also so very French View Quote Horse shit. English is the Viking raider of languages. It rapes any language it comes across and pilages it's victim's villages for spare vocabulary and syntax. It then leaves little bastard rape children like Ok everywhere it goes. But then what do you expect. Take a grunting Germanic tongue and butt fuck it with archaic French and then butt fuck the French with an island retard attitude and colonialism. You bitch about how English doesn't capture the true depth of feeling that other languages can. It doesn't need to because it captures those parts of languages whenever it needs or wants them. And if foreigners don't like that we get to enjoy the schadenfreude.you talk of the ethereal languages of the east. More horse shit. Languages with billions of users are as ethereal as mud. I think maybe you just think Japanese is more kawai than ugly old English. My advice to you is to just accept your place as a member of the most vicious pack of opportunistic predatorial scavenging omnivores ever to grace or little corner of the linguistic universe and get over it. |
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I heard two coworkers saying the same thing about Mandarin vs Cantonese.
There’s nothing wrong with English. It has plenty of nuance, without a lot of ambiguity. |
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Quoted: Horse shit. English is the Viking raider of languages. It rapes any language it comes across and pilages it's victim's villages for spare vocabulary and syntax. It then leaves little bastard rape children like Ok everywhere it goes. But then what do you expect. Take a grunting Germanic tongue and butt fuck it with archaic French and then butt fuck the French with an island retard attitude and colonialism. You bitch about how English doesn't capture the true depth of feeling that other languages can. It doesn't need to because it captures those parts of languages whenever it needs or wants them. And if foreigners don't like that we get to enjoy the schadenfreude.you talk of the ethereal languages of the east. More horse shit. Languages with billions of users are as ethereal as mud. I think maybe you just think Japanese is more kawai than ugly old English. My advice to you is to just accept your place as a member of the most vicious pack of opportunistic predatorial scavenging omnivores ever to grace or little corner of the linguistic universe and get over it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Hence is why we are also so very French Horse shit. English is the Viking raider of languages. It rapes any language it comes across and pilages it's victim's villages for spare vocabulary and syntax. It then leaves little bastard rape children like Ok everywhere it goes. But then what do you expect. Take a grunting Germanic tongue and butt fuck it with archaic French and then butt fuck the French with an island retard attitude and colonialism. You bitch about how English doesn't capture the true depth of feeling that other languages can. It doesn't need to because it captures those parts of languages whenever it needs or wants them. And if foreigners don't like that we get to enjoy the schadenfreude.you talk of the ethereal languages of the east. More horse shit. Languages with billions of users are as ethereal as mud. I think maybe you just think Japanese is more kawai than ugly old English. My advice to you is to just accept your place as a member of the most vicious pack of opportunistic predatorial scavenging omnivores ever to grace or little corner of the linguistic universe and get over it. You use your tongue prettier than a $20 whore. |
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Quoted: I will once asked a woman in German when she was going to take her clothes off when I was trying to ask when they were moving. Just one small word difference. Her husband and kids thought it was hilarious. German has some interesting word combos too. I once came across the word Scheideweg. I was like . Separately, Scheide means vagina and Weg means path, way, etc. But somehow combined it means something entirely different. View Quote But Scheide also has several other meanings besides vagina. One being a scabbard or sheath (which makes sense... put a sword into it sheath ) Sceideweg, or Wegscheide depending on usage is a 'crossroads'. The former being more metaphoric, the latter literal |
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Quoted: Quoted: I get what you're saying but i think a better example would be the Greek words for love. We have one word for love. They had eight. Highlighted by the thread a couple day ago with the thread about "Do you say i love you your male friends" I love my wife in a completely different way than my friends to the point idk if you could even use the same word. The greek words are: Agape - unconditional love - the feeling of love for mankind. when you see innocents murdered and feel sad for it Eros - sexual, erotic - the kind you have for your wife especially when you first get together Philia - affectionate love, not sexual - the kind you have for friends Philautia - self love - the kind you have for yourself Storge - familiarity love, not sexual - the kind you have for your kids Pragma - enduring love - those that have been married a while know. your love for your wife changes. you still have eros but this is a deeper love. Ludus - infatuation love - the kind when you first meet a girl you like and you get the butterflies in your stomach Mania - obsessive love - the word to describe the type of love when you get jealous Bingo And we maintain all of those words in modern English. Maniacs obsess. Infatuation is Ludacris. Long married folks tend toward pragmatism. Even agape remains. Every time I do a Google image search for gape I find all sorts of wonderful examples. |
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How about American English terms which are not easily translated to other languages?
You snooze you lose. Snitches get stitches. He's a rat, and a rats gotta suck the pipe. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I get what you're saying but i think a better example would be the Greek words for love. We have one word for love. They had eight. Highlighted by the thread a couple day ago with the thread about "Do you say i love you your male friends" I love my wife in a completely different way than my friends to the point idk if you could even use the same word. The greek words are: Agape - unconditional love - the feeling of love for mankind. when you see innocents murdered and feel sad for it Eros - sexual, erotic - the kind you have for your wife especially when you first get together Philia - affectionate love, not sexual - the kind you have for friends Philautia - self love - the kind you have for yourself Storge - familiarity love, not sexual - the kind you have for your kids Pragma - enduring love - those that have been married a while know. your love for your wife changes. you still have eros but this is a deeper love. Ludus - infatuation love - the kind when you first meet a girl you like and you get the butterflies in your stomach Mania - obsessive love - the word to describe the type of love when you get jealous Bingo You really don't know what you are talking about Pony. English has more words in it that any other language and if you actually cared about language and how it was developed I would bet that you would find that every single one of those words in that list has made it into the English language. |
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English is great, look at the versatility of the word Fuck.
Fuck can be used for any fucking thing that is fucked up, fucking awesome, a dumb fuck, fuck it, fuck this shit, who gives a fuck, let's go get fucked, let's go get fucked up, so there is no fucking way English language is fucked up or tier fucking two because you can you use the word fuck for any fucking thing you want to and people will underfuckingstand it. It can even be used to describe fucked up run on sentences. So in closing Fuck Joe Biden. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I get what you're saying but i think a better example would be the Greek words for love. We have one word for love. They had eight. Highlighted by the thread a couple day ago with the thread about "Do you say i love you your male friends" I love my wife in a completely different way than my friends to the point idk if you could even use the same word. The greek words are: Agape - unconditional love - the feeling of love for mankind. when you see innocents murdered and feel sad for it Eros - sexual, erotic - the kind you have for your wife especially when you first get together Philia - affectionate love, not sexual - the kind you have for friends Philautia - self love - the kind you have for yourself Storge - familiarity love, not sexual - the kind you have for your kids Pragma - enduring love - those that have been married a while know. your love for your wife changes. you still have eros but this is a deeper love. Ludus - infatuation love - the kind when you first meet a girl you like and you get the butterflies in your stomach Mania - obsessive love - the word to describe the type of love when you get jealous Bingo Damn! Some people know nothing about their own language. That's a shame. Buy yourself a Thesaurus. Here are several entries for the word love. |
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Quoted: English is great, look at the versatility of the word Fuck. Fuck can be used for any fucking thing that is fucked up, fucking awesome, a dumb fuck, fuck it, fuck this shit, who gives a fuck, let's go get fucked, let's go get fucked up, so there is no fucking way English language is fucked up or tier fucking two because you can you use the word fuck for any fucking thing you want to and people will underfuckingstand it. It can even be used to describe fucked up run on sentences. So in closing Fuck Joe Biden. View Quote English is a high precision low context language. It's one reason Chinese translations always seem insane. It is a high context low precision language. But then we go and add in the lowest precision highest context word ever, fuck. And the results are fucking beautiful. |
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In laying out your argument, you use the English language. Apparently, you have a problem, not the language.
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Quoted: I get what you're saying but i think a better example would be the Greek words for love. We have one word for love. They had eight. Highlighted by the thread a couple day ago with the thread about "Do you say i love you your male friends" I love my wife in a completely different way than my friends to the point idk if you could even use the same word. The greek words are: Agape - unconditional love - the feeling of love for mankind. when you see innocents murdered and feel sad for it Eros - sexual, erotic - the kind you have for your wife especially when you first get together Philia - affectionate love, not sexual - the kind you have for friends Philautia - self love - the kind you have for yourself Storge - familiarity love, not sexual - the kind you have for your kids Pragma - enduring love - those that have been married a while know. your love for your wife changes. you still have eros but this is a deeper love. Ludus - infatuation love - the kind when you first meet a girl you like and you get the butterflies in your stomach Mania - obsessive love - the word to describe the type of love when you get jealous View Quote LP, ancient Greek is what you seek. |
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Quoted: English is great, look at the versatility of the word Fuck. Fuck can be used for any fucking thing that is fucked up, fucking awesome, a dumb fuck, fuck it, fuck this shit, who gives a fuck, let's go get fucked, let's go get fucked up, so there is no fucking way English language is fucked up or tier fucking two because you can you use the word fuck for any fucking thing you want to and people will underfuckingstand it. It can even be used to describe fucked up run on sentences. So in closing Fuck Joe Biden. View Quote Is there some other way you can illustrate the diversity of the word? |
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I think you’re wrong. Those languages also have less vocabulary and they have to substitute english words because there is no word for that in their language. And theres a ton of languages like that.
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Quoted: Quit trying so hard. You literally answered your own statement. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162439/Screenshot_20220406-092450_Chrome_jpg-2339596.JPG View Quote |
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lol.
"english sucks because I found a word in japanese that doesn't have a direct translation to english" wait till you find out about German. |
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"Blackpilled"
"ShitsFucked" Now a real criticism is when you try to describe the taste "Umami" in English. It is one of the 5 basic tastes but we really don't have our own word for it. |
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