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- Star Wars is science-fantasy, not science-fiction.
- Star Wars (the Original Trilogy) was black and white, good vs evil.
- Luke is a Hero, and the Rebels and Jedi are the good guys.
- The thought that people actually believe the Empire/Vader/Emperor are the good guys (and aren't trolling/having fun with the Star Wars universe) is disturbing.

Sith are a cancer, and the Force can't be in balance as long as they exist...but I'm pretty sure you know that

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You made me nerd out a bit and look over the TIE variants. Saw this on the interceptor wiki

"The original production model came equipped with four L-s9.3 laser cannons, one installed on each wingtip. New targeting software was installed in the TIE Interceptor, and the SFS T-s9a targeting computer offered greater accuracy during complex flight maneuvers.[6] Twin laser cannon hardpoints still remained on the "chin" portion of the cockpit module. Provided that technicians could find room for additional power generators, these cannons could also be utilized.[13] Further upgrades, including hyperdrives and advanced shielding made them equal to the Rebellion's X-wing starfighters.[15] Their weapons were equipped with safeties"

Vaders TIE is still cool as hell too. I just personally prefer the interceptors.
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Daala got where she was because she was slobbin' Tarkin's lightsaber.

Tarkin put her in charge of the Maw Installation. Why? Because it was nearly impossible to get to, and even she couldn't mess that up, being isolated as such. It was a dead end job, meant to keep her out of the way.

Even Tarken knew what a hot mess she was, and she proved it years later when she tried to take over the Empire and take on the New Republic. Failure and incompetence at every level, because she couldn't keep her emotions in check, and had no grasp of tactics. She cost the Empire the Suncrusher and another Super Star Destroyer. If Gilad Pellaeon had maybe admitted to himself that she completely unfit to command the Empire, he could have "relieved" her earlier, but as such, his nutsack was so shriveled that he kept refusing the burden of command until it was very clear that no one else could.

Admiral Daala was the "long time ago, far far away" equivalent of an EEOC hire.

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Daala got where she was because she was slobbin' Tarkin's lightsaber.

Tarkin put her in charge of the Maw Installation. Why? Because it was nearly impossible to get to, and even she couldn't mess that up, being isolated as such. It was a dead end job, meant to keep her out of the way.

Even Tarken knew what a hot mess she was, and she proved it years later when she tried to take over the Empire and take on the New Republic. Failure and incompetence at every level, because she couldn't keep her emotions in check, and had no grasp of tactics. She cost the Empire the Suncrusher and another Super Star Destroyer. If Gilad Pellaeon had maybe admitted to himself that she completely unfit to command the Empire, he could have "relieved" her earlier, but as such, his nutsack was so shriveled that he kept refusing the burden of command until it was very clear that no one else could.

Admiral Daala was the "long time ago, far far away" equivalent of an EEOC hire.

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The Empire allows you the freedom to own a heavily armed faster than light starship for personal transportation and commerce.

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Alderaan was like Afghanistan. They funded, housed, and supported Rebel Terrorists. Bail Prestor Organa was one of the founding members of the Rebel Alliance and was also the ruling leader of Alderaan. Striking Alderaan is a good thing. Planet wants to be gangsta until it's time to do gangsta shit. Part of that is getting space nuked by the Death Star.

The Sith was a religious order that broke away from the Jedi and were persecuted like many early Protestants were when they broke away from the Catholic Church. The Jedi literally waged a war and killed the original Species of Sith. THE JEDI WAGED A WAR OF GENOCIDE. They then went after people that simply wanted to experience emotions, have families, and want to grow.

The Jedi Order kidnapped kids and brainwashed them for God's sake. Yoda even said that Anakin was too old for training. Why? because he fucking remembered his mother.... that's why. They didn't even attempt to free his mother. They let her stay as a slave! Obi-Wan and Yoda lied to Luke to get him to fight against Vader. Nor did they train Leia and even tell her that she's Force sensitive. They told Luke that Vader killed his father, that his father was a navigator on a freighter, that his father was a innocent pawn killed by the Sith, etc.... ALL FUCKING LIES.

The Jedi were self appointed, fell under no civil government control (ie the People), mind fucked citizens, stole property, destroyed property, carried weapons while the citizenry were disarmed, and lopped off limbs like bored Samurai.

The Rebels wanted to bring back a corrupt government that worked much like the USSR. The Republic preached freedom yet bred an army of living beings and sent them to slaughter against a group of systems that wanted to leave the Republic over economic and tax issues. Sounds like fucking slavery to me.

The Empire didn't give a fuck if Han was armed.... Stormies walked right by him in the bar. He only got into trouble for agreeing to smuggle a know Jedi Terrorist and his Bacha Bazi Lover Boy Toy. Lando ran Cloud City with no problems.... until he harbored terrorists.

Fuck the Rebels.

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this is mostly my fault now.  

I was a horny kid, saw this beautiful girl asking for help, and I was obsessed....

...only to find out she was my sister

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Just read a couple of the Thrawn books; no poll needed once you read them because the decision is obvious.

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The Empire existed before the Sith take-over.   Every member planet had a voice, and contributed what they felt they could (if you read off/on again canon books) to the whole of the Empire.

The Jedi were like Religious Texas Rangers for all of the member planets.

You could say that absolute power corrupts (Palpatine), and that’s what drove it over the edge (first Galatic Empire).    I always equated Palpatine to a “we in the government know best” SJW weasel (like a modern-day DC swamp creature, or Alexander Hamilton/FDR).

Still, after the hostile takeover of power, they ruled with an iron fist, but you have to wonder how much (galactically) crime went down, since almost every planet had some sort of Trooper barracks on-planet.

TL:DR;

Pre-Palpatine:   Empire Good
Post-Palpatine: Tie?

/Nerd off.

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What kind of benefits does the Empire offer? Three hots and a cot?  

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Rebel Scum and Jedi Lovers....

Who tormented Anakin? The Sith? No...

The Jedi did. They took him from his mother and left her as a slave. As a young child, Yoda told him to stop being afraid because it is wrong. No fucking shit a small kid will be scared, he was basically kidnapped, taken from everything he knows, told he is the "Choosen One", and basically instructed to forget his mother and let her die as a slave. Furthermore, as he grew into his teenage years. The Jedi told him "fuck your emotions" at the critical stage where emotional development is crucial. It shunted his growth and mind fucked him.

As a teenager, the Jedi told him that love, lust, and longing for a mate is wrong. Instead of instruct and explain. The Jedi simply went crazy Taliban on him and basically threatened to cut off his dick. He was confused and conflicted. He then is thrusted into a war as a teenager and given command of living beings that are to be treated as Droids. And once again, on top of all that they pump that bullshit that he's the "Choosen One" and will bring balance to the force by killing he Sith.

So they give him a trainee. He trains her, shows her the ways of the force, and develops a close bond. What does the Jedi do? They automatically think she was the bomber, expell her from the order, and want to have her executed. No trial, no gathering of evidence, no chance to prove one's innocence. She had to go on the run and prove her own innocence. What does the Jedi? Sorry for trying to kill you Asoka, let bygones be bygones. Yeah, great example of peace and harmony within he Jedi Order.

What then happens? He gets married but can't express his joy about it. He has kids on he way but can't be a proud father to be because of fear. Fear of what the Jedi will do to him and his wife because he already saw what happened to Asoka.

The Sith came in and simply told him, "Hey look, you're worried about your wife and kids? We support you having a family and caring for them. It's cool bro."

Also what kind of prophecy brings balance by killing all of he Sith and Darkside Users? Balance means an equal number on both sides. He did bring balance. The Jedi were reduced to an equal number as the Sith. The Jedi wanted the prophecy to allow them to go all wahhabist radical on he Sith and kill them like ISIS is killing.

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Rebel Scum and Jedi Lovers....

Who tormented Anakin? The Sith? No...

The Jedi did. They took him from his mother and left her as a slave. As a young child, Yoda told him to stop being afraid because it is wrong. No fucking shit a small kid will be scared, he was basically kidnapped, taken from everything he knows, told he is the "Choosen One", and basically instructed to forget his mother and let her die as a slave. Furthermore, as he grew into his teenage years. The Jedi told him "fuck your emotions" at the critical stage where emotional development is crucial. It shunted his growth and mind fucked him.

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Alderaan was like Afghanistan. They funded, housed, and supported Rebel Terrorists. Bail Prestor Organa was one of the founding members of the Rebel Alliance and was also the ruling leader of Alderaan. Striking Alderaan is a good thing. Planet wants to be gangsta until it's time to do gangsta shit. Part of that is getting space nuked by the Death Star.

The Sith was a religious order that broke away from the Jedi and were persecuted like many early Protestants were when they broke away from the Catholic Church. The Jedi literally waged a war and killed the original Species of Sith. THE JEDI WAGED A WAR OF GENOCIDE. They then went after people that simply wanted to experience emotions, have families, and want to grow.

The Jedi Order kidnapped kids and brainwashed them for God's sake. Yoda even said that Anakin was too old for training. Why? because he fucking remembered his mother.... that's why. They didn't even attempt to free his mother. They let her stay as a slave! Obi-Wan and Yoda lied to Luke to get him to fight against Vader. Nor did they train Leia and even tell her that she's Force sensitive. They told Luke that Vader killed his father, that his father was a navigator on a freighter, that his father was a innocent pawn killed by the Sith, etc.... ALL FUCKING LIES.

The Jedi were self appointed, fell under no civil government control (ie the People), mind fucked citizens, stole property, destroyed property, carried weapons while the citizenry were disarmed, and lopped off limbs like bored Samurai.

The Rebels wanted to bring back a corrupt government that worked much like the USSR. The Republic preached freedom yet bred an army of living beings and sent them to slaughter against a group of systems that wanted to leave the Republic over economic and tax issues. Sounds like fucking slavery to me.

The Empire didn't give a fuck if Han was armed.... Stormies walked right by him in the bar. He only got into trouble for agreeing to smuggle a know Jedi Terrorist and his Bacha Bazi Lover Boy Toy. Lando ran Cloud City with no problems.... until he harbored terrorists.

Fuck the Rebels.

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The Jedi were the cloitered religious monks of their day. Sworn to a life of chastity, not allowed to pursue their feelings, and emotionally crippled as a result. All but ignoring the real problems around the galaxy but playing ambassador when and where they felt like it. The rest of the time they just sat on their ass while dreaming up ways to defeat the darkside.

When they finally bring in someone who was old enough to realize it was bullshit, he's a bit rebelious...who wouldn't be? And what sort of organization would deny someone the knowledge to save his wife and children? It's no wonder he bails. What parent/husband wouldn't?

Still, I love me an X-wing, just something about
It. Think the Empire would let me fly a captured one? I'd better make sure that gets into my contract

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Prior to Disney. The T-65 X-Wing was a fighter design to replace the Z-95 Headhunter which was in Republican and later Imperial service. The design bailed and took the plans to the Rebels. Seiner Fleet Systems then got ththe contract for the new Imperial fighter since Incom couldn't be trusted anymore.

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I'll say there are some knowledgeable deep-thinkers in this thread. I'm a huge SW fan, but it turns out I don't know shit.