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Everyone complaining about filler episodes, what kind of show are expecting? It's an episodic adventure series.
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Quoted: Quoted: Well, looks like I started a storm. Look, my fan theory is equally as worthless as everyone else's. I believe mine fits screen canon better than most, but it doesn't really matter. As far as canon goes, screen vs EU are almost separate universes. EU says Xwings have hyperdrives, very powerful shields, 6 torpedoes, etc. Screen canon is a different story, and that's ok. Just as long as the Sun Crusher is banished from memory forever. what is screen canon leaving out? Any specifics? Already explained my theory of no hyperdrive, there are clearly no shields on fighters on screen, only 2 fighters fire on the Death Star port and considering the stakes they should have fired everything. |
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Quoted: Well, looks like I started a storm. Look, my fan theory is equally as worthless as everyone else's. I believe mine fits screen canon better than most, but it doesn't really matter. As far as canon goes, screen vs EU are almost separate universes. EU says Xwings have hyperdrives, very powerful shields, 6 torpedoes, etc. Screen canon is a different story, and that's ok. Just as long as the Sun Crusher is banished from memory forever. View Quote ANH did not need to show the X-Wing/Y-Wing hyperdrive as the DS was in-system. But I would have liked to have seen Luke jump to hyperspace going to Dagobah and Bespin in ESB and Dagobah in RoTJ. |
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Quoted: How quickly we all forget the prison ship episode. S2E2 exponentially better than that garbage. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: That was the worst episode so far, IMHO. Still 87x better than any of the Disney trilogy movies though. How quickly we all forget the prison ship episode. S2E2 exponentially better than that garbage. The prison ship episode? I loved that one. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Everyone complaining about filler episodes, what kind of show are expecting? It's an episodic adventure series. https://media.giphy.com/media/7KINJkoBCkYsE/giphy.gif Any single episode of Mandalorian has been far, far, far better than any of the sequel trilogy. This show is peak Star Wars. It captures the spirit and tone of the original films, and elevates it. I don't care about some over-arching storyline. I want Mando exploring different planets, meeting different species, new challenges every episode. I'd like to know more about baby yoda's race and background. But sprinkle it over 5 seasons. |
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Quoted: The prison ship episode? I loved that one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/330CC6C3-704D-4020-B3D5-C91D11232EB1-475.gif I want to be entertained. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Everyone complaining about filler episodes, what kind of show are expecting? It's an episodic adventure series. I want to be entertained. Only boring people get bored. |
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Quoted: Maybe I need to watch it again. I just couldn’t get over the female twi’lek whose special skill was knives brought along to fight a nearly all droid crew. Her open mouth smile and laugh was obviously a Harley Quinn attempt and the entire episode didn’t seem to advance the plot at all at the time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You didn't like that one? I loved it. Literally just 6 actors and 2 sets. And they managed to make it entertaining. That scene where Mando is moving through the hall with failing lighting is pure gold. Maybe I need to watch it again. I just couldn’t get over the female twi’lek whose special skill was knives brought along to fight a nearly all droid crew. Her open mouth smile and laugh was obviously a Harley Quinn attempt and the entire episode didn’t seem to advance the plot at all at the time. I HATED that character. |
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Worst part of the prison episode was the costumes. Should have just hired some Twilek cosplayers.
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I have a feeling that the stories involving these x wing fighters are going to come together eventually.
The way they explained that “these are trying times” makes me wonder if they’re going to eventually hire mando to take care of business that the New Republic can’t address directly. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Only boring people get bored. You're defending the latest episode as entertaining? I certainly am. I'll disagree with you on many things, but at least we can come together on S2E02 of Mandalorian being great. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Everyone complaining about filler episodes, what kind of show are expecting? It's an episodic adventure series. I want to be entertained. Only boring people get bored. That’s what we tell our kids! |
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Quoted: I have a feeling that the stories involving these x wing fighters are going to come together eventually. The way they explained that “these are trying times” makes me wonder if they’re going to eventually hire mando to take care of business that the New Republic can’t address directly. View Quote Ahhh, interesting idea. And maybe in the course of that, he gets in touch with the Jedi. It's worth remembering that while Mando may be an "outlaw" he has no beef with the New Republic. |
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Quoted: Ahhh, interesting idea. And maybe in the course of that, he gets in touch with the Jedi. It's worth remembering that while Mando may be an "outlaw" he has no beef with the New Republic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I have a feeling that the stories involving these x wing fighters are going to come together eventually. The way they explained that “these are trying times” makes me wonder if they’re going to eventually hire mando to take care of business that the New Republic can’t address directly. Ahhh, interesting idea. And maybe in the course of that, he gets in touch with the Jedi. It's worth remembering that while Mando may be an "outlaw" he has no beef with the New Republic. That’s the way I see episodes like S2E2. They’re not “filler” in that we just don’t yet know how that thread will weave into the larger story. |
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Quoted: Somewhere in a storage box down in the basement I have a 30 plus year old ships of Star Wars book. The description of the X-Wing even way back then noted that it was designed from the outset to have a hyperdrive. Just like the Y-wing. View Quote |
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I’m just a casual fan (films, and now The Mandalorian), but I remember Episode V where the X-wings jumped to hyperspace separately from the capital ships of Hoth. In Episode IV when they were in the Death Star trench, they switched power to rear shields.
Still got blasted by Vader, though, like the shields weren’t there. |
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Quoted: https://64.media.tumblr.com/8cef251bce0cfdc13d9a2849ffeb6c71/tumblr_on4dh8uMxm1smw5dno1_500.gifv View Quote Easily the best space battle ever put to film. |
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Quoted: In the EU, yes. In Ep 4-6 we never see one enter or exit hyperspace unless following another ship. So probably but not 100% confirmed. Even if they do, Luke was definitely flying in real space while talking with R2 about keeping it on manual. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Don’t X-wings have hyperdrive? In the EU, yes. In Ep 4-6 we never see one enter or exit hyperspace unless following another ship. So probably but not 100% confirmed. Even if they do, Luke was definitely flying in real space while talking with R2 about keeping it on manual. Um, this is not hard to figure out. Just look and see if luke flew the x-wing across distances in the non-eu that would require hyperdrive. |
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Quoted: I have a feeling that the stories involving these x wing fighters are going to come together eventually. The way they explained that “these are trying times” makes me wonder if they’re going to eventually hire mando to take care of business that the New Republic can’t address directly. View Quote I do hope so. I did enjoy this weeks episode despite it being the weakest so far IMO. The prison one had at least the whole when's he gonna be betrayed/being sneaky parts. This one was just...bland? I mean either those pilots coming back in some way, or frog/lizard lady arc somehow tying back...or its just pure filler I guess. Slightly disappointed we didn't get to see who the boots were from end of Ep1 |
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Quoted: Easily the best space battle ever put to film. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Easily the best space battle ever put to film. Monica.gif |
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Can we take a moment to appreciate how fucking badass this space battle was?
The X wing is the coolest fighter in all of science fiction. Failed To Load Title |
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Quoted: That joker seems to be willing to eat anything he can get his hands on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I know the second baby yoda looked at those fish eggs he was going to eat them. That joker seems to be willing to eat anything he can get his hands on. This is the way. |
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Quoted: https://78.media.tumblr.com/bcd6a993eddd262adf90374b8d2faadb/tumblr_on6tusVj7C1smw5dno1_1280.gif View Quote Loved that shot, let's get out of... BOOOOM!!! |
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Quoted: That joker seems to be willing to eat anything he can get his hands on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I know the second baby yoda looked at those fish eggs he was going to eat them. That joker seems to be willing to eat anything he can get his hands on. I thought he was going to get food poisoning from the spider thingy! |
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Quoted: That’s the way I see episodes like S2E2. They’re not “filler” in that we just don’t yet know how that thread will weave into the larger story. View Quote Yep. You gotta set the table before you can have your dinner. A lot of film makers skip this part because its boring, but its a vital component of good story telling. Mando and the New Republic being familiar with each other sets the stage for a lot of fun possibilities. They could hire Mando as plausibly deniable muscle, Mando could get the New Republic to help him fight Gideon's Empire Remnant, or he could bait the New Republic and Gideon's Remnant into fighting each other while he side steps the whole thing like he did at the end of the S1 prison episode. This one somewhat boring episode could set up some awesome episodes down the road. So, I'll allow it. |
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Quoted: That joker seems to be willing to eat anything he can get his hands on. View Quote I think that baby yoda wanted to eat that whole Krayt dragon steak, The Big Texan style! Click To View Spoiler |
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Chapter 10 wasn't a filler episode.
It was all about character development. It cemented the Father and Son relationship between the Baby Yoda and Mandalorian. You saw the Baby Yoda rush to the Mandalorian like a child would to his Father. You saw the other dynamic of the Frog Lady with her "children". This episode help to build what Lucas has always said, which is that Star Wars is about family. |
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Quoted: You didn't like that one? I loved it. Literally just 6 actors and 2 sets. And they managed to make it entertaining. That scene where Mando is moving through the hall with failing lighting is pure gold. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That was the worst episode so far, IMHO. Still 87x better than any of the Disney trilogy movies though. How quickly we all forget the prison ship episode. S2E2 exponentially better than that garbage. You didn't like that one? I loved it. Literally just 6 actors and 2 sets. And they managed to make it entertaining. That scene where Mando is moving through the hall with failing lighting is pure gold. It wasn’t my favorite episode, but I was kinda surprised to see someone refer to it as “garbage.” |
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I felt bad for the frog lady. Shipwrecked on a freezing planet with a stranger who doesn't speak her language, carrying the last, best hope for her species on her back, and that little green fuck's popping her offspring like so many pickled eggs.
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Quoted: I felt bad for the frog lady. Shipwrecked on a freezing planet with a stranger who doesn't speak her language, carrying the last, best hope for her species on her back, and that little green fuck's popping her offspring like so many pickled eggs. View Quote It wasn't the last hope for her species just for her blood line I believe. |
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Quoted: Just once I wish Mando could cross something off his to-do list without having a bunch of extra shit dropped in his lap. I don't mean the main quest. Just 1. Go to this planet. Not 1. Go to this planet but first take this frog with you and you can't use hyperdrive and you have to deal with dickhead cops and ice spiders and for the love of God they stretched this plot more than the Hobbit movies. View Quote Yeah, most of the episodes have a plot that is reminiscent of a side quest in an RPG. |
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Quoted: No way can anyone in their right mind call it garbage. The special effects alone were amazing. Who is going to tell me that effects weren't amazing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It wasn’t my favorite episode, but I was kinda surprised to see someone refer to it as “garbage.” No way can anyone in their right mind call it garbage. The special effects alone were amazing. Who is going to tell me that effects weren't amazing? The Twi'lek makeup could have been a little better, but otherwise yeah. Their Lekku (Lek'u? Leku? L'ekku? whatever) looked like cheap rubber, and the leather headbands were painfully obvious as hiding the mounting. |
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Quoted: The design team at Incom stole the specs for the T-65 Space Superiority Star Fighter (X-Wing) and defected to the Rebel Alliance. It was originally intended as a design for the Empire. Sienar Fleet Systems was the runner up with the TIE/Ln Star Fighter due to the loss of prestige by Incom. The T-65 was equipped with a hyperdrive engine from the start and with shields too. It was a successor to the Clone War era Z-95 Star Fighter (Headhunter) used in Republic Service. Mara Jade piloted a modified Headhunter as a Imperial Hand. The original goal of the T-65 was to be a deep strike capable star fighter for long range patrols against Clone War holdouts. But with the mop up of those forces, the Imperial Navy switched to anti-piracy and interdiction duties. The TIE/Ln served a better role since it was used in conjunction with corvettes, frigates, and destroyers. The need of equipping hyperdrive on a TIE/Ln was seen as a waste of resources due to doctrine, not technology. The TIE Advance X1 (Vader's TIE) was equipped with hyperdrive. Anyways..... Rebel Tactics was hit and run. They jump in system or a known travel route and intercept a Imperial convoy. The Y-Wing, another Clone War era fighter bomber was good at this against lightly armed transport ships. But when TIE/Ln Fighters started popping up everywhere (like the UK had Spitfires and Hurricanes on catapults), the Y-Wings started getting their asses handed to them. So the Rebels developed the A-Wing. A lightning fast interceptor meant to harass convoys. The Empire countered them with TIE Interceptors. They were faster and more agile than the TIE/Ln. At first, they weren't equipped.with hyperdrives since they too were assigned to convoy ships and such. Incom stayed as an Imperial contractor, producing the I-7 Howlrunner long after Palpatine died, but the Imperial Government stayed in power. It never outright collapsed. Hyperspace was a separate dimension of existence. It worked like a wormhole. It wasn't traditional FTL like Warp Speed in Star Trek. In Star Wars, it was known and mapped safe routes. Because the gravity well of a large body could affect travel. Here is a map of the major hyperspace lanes. https://starwarsphilosophy.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/galaxy-map-unedited.jpg In the original EU. It was stated that pirates going beyond the founding of the Republic would tow large asteroids into a known lane to have ships drop out of hyperspace when the safety system detected a gravity well. They essentially road blocked the hyperspace lane. The Empire went so far as to build gravity well projectors and installed them on frigates. The original EU stated that you couldn't jump to hyperspace within the gravity well of a planet or system. You had to get to the outer edges to jump. So the Imperial Navy would park an Immobilizer 418 Cruiser on the edge of a battle space or the edge of system and turn on the gravity well projectors and keep ships from jump. They'd also park them by known hyperspace lanes and pull ships out of hyperspace for boarding. Hyperspace was literally a mapped out network of safe travel lanes like the autobahn and surface streets. The Unknown Regions were called that because no one has mapped it out. The deep core was dangerous too since it had a tight collection of gravity wells from stars and systems being bunched up. Also, the planet Kessel was a known danger. It was deep in the Maw, an area infested with Blackholes that were put there to keep an especially powerful force sensitive captive by the same species that created the Corellian System with CenterPoint Station. Han Solo's Kessel run was famous because he took a shorter route and avoided Imperial Checkpoints by going through an unmapped portion of the Maw and risked being destroyed by the gravity wells of the blackholes. Okay, back Star Fighters. When the Imperials lost the Battle of Endor, they didn't collapse. They kept hold to most of their territory. But what happened is they went into an era of Warlords with different Sector Moffs carving out chunks of territory for themselves and waged a civil war aling with the overall Galactic Civil War against the Rebel Alliance. The Warlords killed each other off as well as fall to the New Republic, the survivors formed the Imperial Remnant and stayed as a Galactic Power. They equipped TIE Interceptors with hyperdrives and also developed the TIE Defender, which smoked the T-65 in every way. But it was an expensive bastard to make. It has shieds, hyperdrive, ion cannons, blaster cannons, and a concussion missle and proton torpedoe launcher. Baron Soontir Fel of the 181st Imperial Fighter Wing used them against the New Republic and later fled with the design to the Chiss Ascendency where they further refined it and used it to great success against the Yuuzhan Vong during their Galactic Invasion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Correct. The Rebellion's typical strategy was to hyper jump in, strike quickly, and hyper jump back out. They did not have the numbers to stick around for a fair fight nor the capital ships to move fighters. Y-Wings were a relic at the Battle of Yavin as older Clone-Wars era ships that were basically stolen surplus (See Rebels cartoon). But fit the multi-functional strike role well with a Hyperdrive and patched together shield upgrades. X-Wings were newer Space Superiority Fighters at The Battle of Yavin (and in Rogue One) Their capabilities were Perfect match for the Rebellions growing needs in the war. I always saw them as the F-14 Tomcat vs the Empire's standard TIE fighter (MiG 21). Of course the Empire had better TIE models but not on quantity. The original goal of the T-65 was to be a deep strike capable star fighter for long range patrols against Clone War holdouts. But with the mop up of those forces, the Imperial Navy switched to anti-piracy and interdiction duties. The TIE/Ln served a better role since it was used in conjunction with corvettes, frigates, and destroyers. The need of equipping hyperdrive on a TIE/Ln was seen as a waste of resources due to doctrine, not technology. The TIE Advance X1 (Vader's TIE) was equipped with hyperdrive. Anyways..... Rebel Tactics was hit and run. They jump in system or a known travel route and intercept a Imperial convoy. The Y-Wing, another Clone War era fighter bomber was good at this against lightly armed transport ships. But when TIE/Ln Fighters started popping up everywhere (like the UK had Spitfires and Hurricanes on catapults), the Y-Wings started getting their asses handed to them. So the Rebels developed the A-Wing. A lightning fast interceptor meant to harass convoys. The Empire countered them with TIE Interceptors. They were faster and more agile than the TIE/Ln. At first, they weren't equipped.with hyperdrives since they too were assigned to convoy ships and such. Incom stayed as an Imperial contractor, producing the I-7 Howlrunner long after Palpatine died, but the Imperial Government stayed in power. It never outright collapsed. Hyperspace was a separate dimension of existence. It worked like a wormhole. It wasn't traditional FTL like Warp Speed in Star Trek. In Star Wars, it was known and mapped safe routes. Because the gravity well of a large body could affect travel. Here is a map of the major hyperspace lanes. https://starwarsphilosophy.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/galaxy-map-unedited.jpg In the original EU. It was stated that pirates going beyond the founding of the Republic would tow large asteroids into a known lane to have ships drop out of hyperspace when the safety system detected a gravity well. They essentially road blocked the hyperspace lane. The Empire went so far as to build gravity well projectors and installed them on frigates. The original EU stated that you couldn't jump to hyperspace within the gravity well of a planet or system. You had to get to the outer edges to jump. So the Imperial Navy would park an Immobilizer 418 Cruiser on the edge of a battle space or the edge of system and turn on the gravity well projectors and keep ships from jump. They'd also park them by known hyperspace lanes and pull ships out of hyperspace for boarding. Hyperspace was literally a mapped out network of safe travel lanes like the autobahn and surface streets. The Unknown Regions were called that because no one has mapped it out. The deep core was dangerous too since it had a tight collection of gravity wells from stars and systems being bunched up. Also, the planet Kessel was a known danger. It was deep in the Maw, an area infested with Blackholes that were put there to keep an especially powerful force sensitive captive by the same species that created the Corellian System with CenterPoint Station. Han Solo's Kessel run was famous because he took a shorter route and avoided Imperial Checkpoints by going through an unmapped portion of the Maw and risked being destroyed by the gravity wells of the blackholes. Okay, back Star Fighters. When the Imperials lost the Battle of Endor, they didn't collapse. They kept hold to most of their territory. But what happened is they went into an era of Warlords with different Sector Moffs carving out chunks of territory for themselves and waged a civil war aling with the overall Galactic Civil War against the Rebel Alliance. The Warlords killed each other off as well as fall to the New Republic, the survivors formed the Imperial Remnant and stayed as a Galactic Power. They equipped TIE Interceptors with hyperdrives and also developed the TIE Defender, which smoked the T-65 in every way. But it was an expensive bastard to make. It has shieds, hyperdrive, ion cannons, blaster cannons, and a concussion missle and proton torpedoe launcher. Baron Soontir Fel of the 181st Imperial Fighter Wing used them against the New Republic and later fled with the design to the Chiss Ascendency where they further refined it and used it to great success against the Yuuzhan Vong during their Galactic Invasion. Man, that brings me back. I spent hours poring over my guide to Star Wars ships and vessels. |
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Quoted: Ahhh, interesting idea. And maybe in the course of that, he gets in touch with the Jedi. It's worth remembering that while Mando may be an "outlaw" he has no beef with the New Republic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I have a feeling that the stories involving these x wing fighters are going to come together eventually. The way they explained that “these are trying times” makes me wonder if they’re going to eventually hire mando to take care of business that the New Republic can’t address directly. Ahhh, interesting idea. And maybe in the course of that, he gets in touch with the Jedi. It's worth remembering that while Mando may be an "outlaw" he has no beef with the New Republic. Said the same thing to the fam when that happened. "That's not just going to save his expensive carapace now...but also later." |
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Quoted: https://64.media.tumblr.com/8cef251bce0cfdc13d9a2849ffeb6c71/tumblr_on4dh8uMxm1smw5dno1_500.gifv View Quote ...and that makes it canon. |
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