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Posted: 2/22/2024 1:08:07 PM EST
[#1]
No experience with Bren, love my AUG, I’d go with that if you don’t have a bull pup.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 1:09:52 PM EST
[#2]
Aug with a 16 inch barrel.
Not many have both, including myself. But I do have a few different rifles in this class, and the AR-15 dominates them all. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 1:19:39 PM EST
[#3]
That would be a very hard decision for me if the price and everything else was equal. That said…
The AUG has a famously awful trigger. The Bren 2 has what might be the finest trigger available on an issue rifle right now. Also the Bren is a standard configuration gun. Bull pups can be something of an acquired taste. I love CZ’s but the AUG has a special place in my heart because it’s the first gun I ever handled. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 1:54:12 PM EST
[#4]
As someone who lives in a commy state that can't buy either as of last year. GET BOTH......
They are both great rifles for different reasons. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:23:48 PM EST
[#5]
I've run both. Different guns so it's a taste issue. The AUG is iconic, though IMHO, you should get one with the integrated scope, to keep closer to being "iconic". If you want a more modern bullpup, get an RDB, that's actually the most "modern" bullpup right now. But if you want a military classic - get it as close to that military classic configuration as you can.
Be aware you'll need to drop close to $200 to upgrade the AUG trigger, which you should probably do. CZ Bren is a sweetheart of a gun to shoot and I quite like it. If it were me, I'd probably go AUG. But there's not a mistake to make here. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:24:09 PM EST
[#6]
Bren
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:26:29 PM EST
[#7]
if you have any experience with ARs the Bren's minute of pie plate accuracy may be disheartening for you. It's the reason I flipped mine.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:27:25 PM EST
[#8]
I'd go with a aug with the oe mags instead of nato stock
No bolt hols open on nato And replace the trigger springs https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/1251030600 |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:29:29 PM EST
[#9]
I've been through three AUGs.
I think it looks cool. I buy one. It sucks. I sell it. A few years later, I think it looks cool. The cycle repeats. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:31:14 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd go with a aug with the oe mags instead of nato stock The MSAR Aug mags that I have, also allow for a longer COAL than AR mags. Tony |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:35:30 PM EST
[#11]
I have both, the Bren sits next to my office chair. The AUG in the toy safe.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:43:42 PM EST
[#12]
I don’t have an Aug but I’ve shot a 16” one side-by-side my 16” Bren 2. The Bren 2 has a much softer recoil impulse but is way more front heavy.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:48:24 PM EST
[#13]
I would say the AUG if you are only getting one but since you can't stop once the black rifle disease bites get the Bren now and the Aug later.
They will continue to make the AUG but the CZ may not be continued. And get the AUG that uses factory mags not the NATO stock. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:48:56 PM EST
[#14]
For what purpose? I have both: 20 inch AUG and 556 bren 2. If I want to add something iconic to my collection...AUG all day. If I want an example of the latest gen, modern assault rifle or the better SD gun, Bren 2.
If you go AUG, get the original, not the NATO. Absent get both, which I did, pick where your priority lies and go. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:50:14 PM EST
[#15]
Funny, I traded an AUG for a Bren 2MS. Too many practical downsides for me on the bullpup to outweigh the cool/fun factor, which is admittedly high.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 2:54:26 PM EST
[#16]
Buy the Steyr AUG and you can have all the barrels. 16”, 20” and 24”.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:03:07 PM EST
[#17]
No experience with the CZ, but the AUG doesn't have as bad a trigger as people make it out.
Hoping to shoot mine this spring 
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:04:55 PM EST
[#18]
AUG for sure. Spread your cheeks and drop $50 on the red springs. Very worth it.
Waffle mag master race. 
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:05:13 PM EST
[#19]
My bren 2 is second only to my scar 17. My two favorite guns. The Aug is a novelty imo. Terrible trigger kills it.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:15:56 PM EST
[#20]
I bought a 16” nato AUG. Nato version gets a lot of hate. But, came with the best trigger I’ve ever felt on an Aug.
I consider the trigger in mine incredibly lucky. Size reference pic.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:26:35 PM EST
[#21]
The infamous AUG trigger is not an impediment to effectively using the weapon if you train with it. Its overblown. If you sit and slow fire the Bren 2 and AUG...then yeah. You will notice the trigger difference. Because there clearly IS one. But if you are running the gun in any real sense, you'll adapt to the AUG trigger quick enough and it'll be a non-issue.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:40:41 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The infamous AUG trigger is not an impediment to effectively using the weapon if you train with it. Its overblown. If you sit and slow fire the Bren 2 and AUG...then yeah. You will notice the trigger difference. Because there clearly IS one. But if you are running the gun in any real sense, you'll adapt to the AUG trigger quick enough and it'll be a non-issue. Sure. Of course, about 95% of US civilian AUG ownership is of the once a year bench top shooting usage. But you are right, if you actually stand up and run and gun with an AUG, the trigger isn't that big of a deal, and the abrupt and snappy recoil impulse is actually a feature as it tends to keep you on target nicely while afoot. But really, I have never seen anyone other than me ever actually run an AUG in 3-gun or even afoot in practice - and you are right. For the vast bulk of owners who go and bench shoot it though, the trigger is going to be a big deal. But fortunately readily correctable now. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:50:38 PM EST
[#23]
Dear god, people are acting like there isn't a factory trigger spring update for the AUG that gets the pull weight down to that of a mil spec AR trigger
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:52:25 PM EST
[#24]
I had the same two rifle decision recently and chose the Aug. Not having a bullpup and being an iconic design pushed me to the Aug.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 4:04:36 PM EST
[#25]
I have the short Bren and I absolutely love it. Never had an aug, they’re cool but too weird for me to justify spending the money to find out I don’t like it. I should buy one anyway lol.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 4:21:59 PM EST
[#26]
If you don’t get the AUG watching Die Hard won’t be as fun. Or Miami Vice. Or The Usual Suspects…
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Posted: 2/22/2024 5:02:40 PM EST
[#27]
AUG
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Posted: 2/22/2024 7:15:17 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dear god, people are acting like there isn't a factory trigger spring update for the AUG that gets the pull weight down to that of a mil spec AR trigger No, people are acting like it's a bullpup and the trigger has extending mechanisms to make it work that cause trigger pull quality to suffer. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 8:47:23 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a 16” nato AUG. Nato version gets a lot of hate. But, came with the best trigger I’ve ever felt on an Aug. I consider the trigger in mine incredibly lucky. Size reference pic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/98037/IMG_0441_jpeg-3137744.JPG Not sure why the NATO stock version gets the hate. At least STANAG mags don't eject rounds when vigorously inserting it into the rifle. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 8:50:31 PM EST
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Posted: 2/22/2024 8:57:16 PM EST
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Posted: 2/22/2024 9:22:21 PM EST
[#32]
Quoted: I'm looking at getting a new rifle but cant decide between Steyr aug with 20in barrel or the CZ Bren 2 Carbine. I would like to hear opinions from people who has experience with these rifles. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 12:11:32 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure why the NATO stock version gets the hate. At least STANAG mags don't eject rounds when vigorously inserting it into the rifle. Me either. As invested in STANAG mags, no way in hell I would get a non NATO stock version. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 12:14:57 PM EST
[#34]
The Bren does nothing that an AR15 does better. The Aug does. The pros and cons are different for every person. I'd suggest an Aug.
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Posted: 2/24/2024 12:34:33 PM EST
[#35]
I really like my AUG, the trigger is just fine for a battle rifle, and the compact size while still retaining a 16” barrel is an additional benefit.
It’s my travel rifle. Compared to a few of my SBRs.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 12:36:05 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Bren does nothing that an AR15 does better. The Aug does. The pros and cons are different for every person. I'd suggest an Aug. Normal/adverse/suppressed gas settings, folding stock, doesn’t poop where it eats. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 10:41:28 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure. Of course, about 95% of US civilian AUG ownership is of the once a year bench top shooting usage. But you are right, if you actually stand up and run and gun with an AUG, the trigger isn't that big of a deal, and the abrupt and snappy recoil impulse is actually a feature as it tends to keep you on target nicely while afoot. But really, I have never seen anyone other than me ever actually run an AUG in 3-gun or even afoot in practice - and you are right. For the vast bulk of owners who go and bench shoot it though, the trigger is going to be a big deal. But fortunately readily correctable now. I use my AUGs frequently in PCC matches and 2 gun. People give me weird looks when I pull it out of the case… |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 10:49:21 PM EST
[#38]
I’ve got both. They’re both worth having. Buy the one you want most first. I shoot the AUG more if that helps.
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Posted: 2/24/2024 10:57:03 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been through three AUGs. I think it looks cool. I buy one. It sucks. I sell it. A few years later, I think it looks cool. The cycle repeats. I’m exactly this. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 4:12:54 AM EST
[#40]
Got both, love shooting both. I would get both again, no question.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 4:24:26 AM EST
[#41]
Having had both, I still have my AUG.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 6:19:13 AM EST
[#42]
I have and enjoy a Tavor, and also have and enjoy a piston driven rifle.
Even though I prefer the Tavor over the AUG, get the AUG first. They're still neat, and if you get the 20" they're still easy to make smaller with just a barrel swap. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 11:44:16 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have and enjoy a Tavor, and also have and enjoy a piston driven rifle. Even though I prefer the Tavor over the AUG, get the AUG first. They're still neat, and if you get the 20" they're still easy to make smaller with just a barrel swap. Or a saw and rethread - tadaa - now you too have an 18" (which is best-inch AUG). |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 11:50:26 AM EST
[#44]
AUG
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Posted: 2/25/2024 1:44:30 PM EST
[#45]
It just seems a bit ridiculous that someone wouldn’t get both.
 But if I had to pick just one, I'd keep my Aug. Honestly, both are great rifles, the Bren is a really soft shooter. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 1:48:21 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Me either. As invested in STANAG mags, no way in hell I would get a non NATO stock version. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not sure why the NATO stock version gets the hate. At least STANAG mags don't eject rounds when vigorously inserting it into the rifle. Me either. As invested in STANAG mags, no way in hell I would get a non NATO stock version. Exactly. For the same reason that i have a pretty much exclusive 5.56 collection, the mags need to stay the same as well. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:21:58 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. For the same reason that i have a pretty much exclusive 5.56 collection, the mags need to stay the same as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not sure why the NATO stock version gets the hate. At least STANAG mags don't eject rounds when vigorously inserting it into the rifle. Me either. As invested in STANAG mags, no way in hell I would get a non NATO stock version. Exactly. For the same reason that i have a pretty much exclusive 5.56 collection, the mags need to stay the same as well. Same reason I went with the NATO AUG. I have assloads of AR mags and gear, and I wanted to stick with it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:43:40 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It just seems a bit ridiculous that someone wouldn’t get both. https://i.ibb.co/XVnpwfB/IMG-1225.jpg But if I had to pick just one, I'd keep my Aug. Honestly, both are great rifles, the Bren is a really soft shooter. Damnit, I have what I want set in mind, except now I want that Bren 2. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:43:45 PM EST
[#49]
Bren, chop the barrel to 14”-14.5. Discount the slim barrel models.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:49:11 PM EST
[#50]
CZ Bren pistol here.
Very very nice. Smoothly shooting 5.56. It's everything an AR pistol should have been. It's one of those things I would never sell. |
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