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Posted: 2/21/2019 4:37:16 PM EST
After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A.
Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) 2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 |
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Fuck surefire anyways for their black friday bullshit. But good find!
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On the one hand I understand they are trying to grease the wheels, but they don't seem to understand how this will come back to bite them in the balls.
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Well fuck.
I use surefire suppressors...cant exactly cut it up and get something else over night. Fuck them though. |
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Is this just a greasing of the local politician, or ideological support?
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I have never owned any of their products.
I will continue my boycott..... |
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I will pay $20+ shipping for any surefire weapon that is in working condition.
$35 + shipping if it includes IR capabilities. You don’t want your buddies at the gun range to think you are a commie do you? |
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I have a feeling this will NOT end well. Remember, lots of these companies compete for .gov contracts. This will not end in any positive way, dude. |
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Works for me. Bring every single one of these companies that are run by traitorous fucks out into the light.
I don't care if I'm stuck with one single manufacturer to shop with, I won't shop at places that give our money away to gun grabbers. Keep'em coming boys! Good job OP. |
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After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) 2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 View Quote |
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they seem overpriced for flashlights anyway IMO View Quote If Streamlght can make a 1,000 lumen WML for handguns that has a shorter/lower profile than a x300u, I'd pop a low light poner. |
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Stuff like this is why I bought my Team Wendy helmet second hand.
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from?
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Wow. It really is amazing how many gun stuff companies are donating to anti gun people.
Makes you really wonder, doesn't it? I have one surefire product and I'll keep it, but I'm not going to buy anything else from them. Been spreading the word around about benchmade, will spread the word about surefire. I am my friend's gun/knife nerd and they do listen to me a lot when they ask what they should buy.....and they are educated about the perils of leftist agenda (and pissed about it). |
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I have a feeling this will NOT end well. Remember, lots of these companies compete for .gov contracts. This will not end in any positive way, dude. View Quote I'm curious where Magpul donates too. They pulled out of Colorado but still work hard to sell to places like the UK, Australia, and various locations in the US that are anti gun. |
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I thought Fix NICS was a pro-gun bill, now that Trump's signed off on it?
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from? View Quote Elzetta O-light The don't have the same wide spread holster compatibility as Surefire and Streamlight, but you can still find holsters for them. |
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Quoted: If Streamlght can ensure they build a reputation of durability they may have a shot being seen as equals. If Streamlght can make a 1,000 lumen WML for handguns that has a shorter/lower profile than a x300u, I'd pop a low light poner. View Quote |
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I've used Streamlights on my handguns and have had no complaints. I was issued a TLR-1HL at work and it's pretty damn bright.
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The tlr1 at 800 lumen IS smaller than the x300u. Sure you lose 200 lumen, but 800 is stupid bright as it is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: If Streamlght can ensure they build a reputation of durability they may have a shot being seen as equals. If Streamlght can make a 1,000 lumen WML for handguns that has a shorter/lower profile than a x300u, I'd pop a low light poner. I actually am impressed with the TLR7. It has a nice beam pattern and intensity for being fairly small. |
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This is how you grease wheels, they are supporting the enemy. Again, if they are going to pay people to ass fuck you vs. just ass fucking you personally whats the difference?
balanced wheel greasing - raytheon |
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Wow. It really is amazing how many gun stuff companies are donating to anti gun people. Makes you really wonder, doesn't it? I have one surefire product and I'll keep it, but I'm not going to buy anything else from them. Been spreading the word around about benchmade, will spread the word about surefire. I am my friend's gun/knife nerd and they do listen to me a lot when they ask what they should buy.....and they are educated about the perils of leftist agenda (and pissed about it). View Quote Even the NSSF, which is the representative lobbying group for the Firearms industry has openly and actively supported the bump stock ban and even backs Universal background checks. In the past they stated they would not do any business in a city that is anti-gun. But now with Las Vegas and Nevada becoming anti-gun due to recent elections they have backtracked on that statement and are stating that they are staying in Las Vegas for future shows. Money is a very powerful corrupting tool. |
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the BIG mistake many people make, is assuming that a firearms manf or firearms related product manuf is actually pro 2A.
To many of them, its just a lucrative business, nothing more and they will lick whatever boot that helps kick the can down the road. I have close family, that are a medium sized online firearms dealer, which are flaming anti-gun liberals! |
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Switch to Klarus then.
Fenix Lights Vs. Surefire ? Scroll down to see DontShootMyDog's testimonial on page 2 |
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I suspect every company that does business with anything government contracts has invested in anti-gun/anti-freedom over the years just to grease the skids. Payola in another name, just a matter of how butthurt the proletariat gets from those actions.
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It really isn't that surprising to see a number of gun companies donate to anti-gun politicians. The reason why is because they are in it for government contracts. That is their bread and butter. The idea of there being an industry that only caters to the civilian Market doesn't mean a large profit margin for them since politically there is a constant attack on that industry. Even the NSSF, which is the representative lobbying group for the Firearms industry has openly and actively supported the bump stock ban and even backs Universal background checks. In the past they stated they would not do any business in a city that is anti-gun. But now with Las Vegas and Nevada becoming anti-gun due to recent elections they have backtracked on that statement and are stating that they are staying in Las Vegas for future shows. Money is a very powerful corrupting tool. View Quote |
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