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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:12:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait wouldn't it be aquadynamic? Hydrodynamic |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:19:01 AM EST
[#2]
Just ban all swim caps.
A serious competitor will shave their head! 
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:26:31 AM EST
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:26:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bull shit, it's shaped to be more aerodynamic Rule is presumably in place to prevent a 'arms race' of hydrodymamic forms of head gear under the guise of 'muh cap'. The rule doens't seem to ban a bigger cap to cover your huge 'Jackson 5' afro, it sets norms at to the form. We have it here in skating as wel, Jutta Leerdam can stuf her long blond hair under cap but she can't start making aerodymaic atributes out of it. Other sports like cycleing as wel have strict areodymacis rules with bikes and helmets. Bulbus bow sure seem like the idea of the Soul cap  |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:30:01 AM EST
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Wonder how the bulbous bow affects the bulbous stern?
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:34:18 AM EST
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When do the riots start?
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:36:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did a 6 month UNPROFOR rotation in the Southern part of Balkans, the first US Combat Troops under foreign command. Blue PASGTs (I kept a camo cover inside the helmet suspension), white HMMWVs. That is exactly the standing orders we had, we couldn't load a magazine or chamber a round without approval from NORDIC BN HQ. We had a Platoon Meeting soon after arrival, we decided we would do what we had to do then worry about the consequences later, if we lived. This is unfortunately because Nordbat once did things the right way but some didn’t appreciate it. https://thestrategybridge.org/the-bridge/2017/9/20/trigger-happy-autonomous-and-disobedient-nordbat-2-and-mission-command-in-bosnia |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:46:08 AM EST
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I actually went and looked up the rule. I know logic doesn't matter when folks start screaming raaaaaaycism, but in case anyone wants to look at this logically, the screen below is of the actual FINA rule book.
4.3 is on caps. The rule clearly states the cap must follow the natural shape of the head. This is obviously done to avoid caps that are shaped to give an advantage. Notice they even say seams, if they exist cannot create any shapes. So what you're telling me is seams are racist too? They would need to rework the rule to allow for caps of greater volume, but also not designed to give an advantage. That would take time and isn't easy. Regardless, the end design would by definition be such that would result in more drag, thus making the athlete using it slower, and thus never used. This is all a non issue, but the internet and lefties are reeeeeeee anyways. 
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:46:14 AM EST
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I don't see that giving a measurable advantage. Seems like BS. That said (a) I don't remember their ever being an African contender in swimming sports, I stand by for examples. That said (b) does anyone remember the "sharks suits) a few years back?
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:49:21 AM EST
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:53:29 AM EST
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What is funny to me is that somehow the excuse is “natural black hairstyle”. It is as if European and Asian swimmers are from cultures where long hair has never existed and therefore they have never needed to alter their chosen style to conform or uh
https://face2faceafrica.com/article/why-shaved-heads-are-an-iconic-african-hair-tradition |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:59:07 AM EST
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Things that dogs can do shouldn't be sports anyway
Running Swimming Eating Fucking Shitting |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:03:00 AM EST
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I'm guessing that there is some competitive advantage that is not being discussed.
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:04:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just ban all swim caps. A serious competitor will shave their head! They’ll shave their body |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:06:07 AM EST
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Yellow man's revenge.
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:07:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see that giving a measurable advantage. Seems like BS. That said (a) I don't remember their ever being an African contender in swimming sports, I stand by for examples. That said (b) does anyone remember the "sharks suits) a few years back? There are two black female swimmers on Team USA. One of them, Simone Manuel, won two gold medals and two silver medals at the last Olympics. There are no black male swimmers on Team USA. However, black male swimmers have won gold before. For example, Cullen Jones won gold in 2008 and 2012. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:12:01 AM EST
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Hair is hair. A black person's natural hair will fit in a regular cap. Even a huge afro can be pulled back into a pony tail.
If you are a competitive swimmer you probably shouldn't have dreads or a weave. I like the idea posted earlier. Ban ALL caps. If you want to reduce your drag, shave your head. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:14:03 AM EST
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:20:03 AM EST
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Remember when athletes truly committed to their sport and country did whatever it took to compete and do well?
Yeah, me either. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:42:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rule is presumably in place to prevent a 'arms race' of hydrodymamic forms of head gear under the guise of 'muh cap'. The rule doens't seem to ban a bigger cap to cover your huge 'Jackson 5' afro, it sets norms at to the form. We have it here in skating as wel, Jutta Leerdam can stuf her long blond hair under cap but she can't start making aerodymaic atributes out of it. Other sports like cycleing as wel have strict areodymacis rules with bikes and helmets. Bulbus bow sure seem like the idea of the Soul cap https://previews.123rf.com/images/ajithclicks/ajithclicks1605/ajithclicks160500007/64295961-bulbous-bow-of-a-ship.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bull shit, it's shaped to be more aerodynamic Rule is presumably in place to prevent a 'arms race' of hydrodymamic forms of head gear under the guise of 'muh cap'. The rule doens't seem to ban a bigger cap to cover your huge 'Jackson 5' afro, it sets norms at to the form. We have it here in skating as wel, Jutta Leerdam can stuf her long blond hair under cap but she can't start making aerodymaic atributes out of it. Other sports like cycleing as wel have strict areodymacis rules with bikes and helmets. Bulbus bow sure seem like the idea of the Soul cap https://previews.123rf.com/images/ajithclicks/ajithclicks1605/ajithclicks160500007/64295961-bulbous-bow-of-a-ship.jpg Yup. I think the rules guys are still a bit soured by the super suits that showed up a decade ago. They don't want another equipment arms race. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:46:00 AM EST
[#21]
Always wanting special consideration
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:46:38 AM EST
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Easilly solved. No caps, goggles, or swimsuits of any kind.
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:48:49 AM EST
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Does Sharpton and the rest of his cabal know about this?
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:51:38 AM EST
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If they want to lose due to less useful equipment, them let them choose their fate.
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Posted: 7/3/2021 9:10:50 AM EST
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Again, why is the "b" in "black" capitalized?
"natural black hair" what is that? Why do blacks need special treatment or special things? Am I too believe that there are no white women swimmers with long curly hair? |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 11:18:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, why is the "b" in "black" capitalized? "natural black hair" what is that? Why do blacks need special treatment or special things? Am I too believe that there are no white women swimmers with long curly hair? Simple. The attempts to stir a race war 
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Posted: 7/3/2021 2:22:52 PM EST
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Lawsuit, protests and Riots to follow. So sick of all this black people deserve this and that because of what none of them alive today went through. Slaves were sold by their Tribal Leaders to Americans. Was slavery right NO but again it's over and as stated nobody alive experienced it so why all the preferred treatment? Yes I know there are some other issues at hand just using that as a example. BLM founder buys multimillion dollar home in rich neighborhood to get her kids into better schools! ( Better schools as taxes are insane not because it was a predominantly white neighborhood ) How about putting that money into your neighborhood to make it better? Where is your money going when you donate to these organizations. Imagine for a second a white only channel WET, a white only college, grants given to white only people ( ALM protests as what happens to black people happens to all races, the news just doesn't stir it up like they do with black people ) Shit would hit the fan. You want race equality make everything equal why should white people be denied the same opportunity's as Black people? That breeds Racism in white people. We need to just forget the past as it cannot be changed and agree all equal opportunity to black or white. I had dirt poor, broken home friends that are now lawyers and engineers no special treatment just through hard work. Ok getting off topic RANT over LOL.
Again you are at the Olympics! Most athlete's would give anything to be there! Just seems petty to me but I am not a professional swimmer so JMO |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 4:52:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lawsuit, protests and Riots to follow. So sick of all this black people deserve this and that because of what none of them alive today went through. Slaves were sold by their Tribal Leaders to Americans. Was slavery right NO but again it's over and as stated nobody alive experienced it so why all the preferred treatment? Yes I know there are some other issues at hand just using that as a example. BLM founder buys multimillion dollar home in rich neighborhood to get her kids into better schools! ( Better schools as taxes are insane not because it was a predominantly white neighborhood ) How about putting that money into your neighborhood to make it better? Where is your money going when you donate to these organizations. Imagine for a second a white only channel WET, a white only college, grants given to white only people ( ALM protests as what happens to black people happens to all races, the news just doesn't stir it up like they do with black people ) Shit would hit the fan. You want race equality make everything equal why should white people be denied the same opportunity's as Black people? That breeds Racism in white people. We need to just forget the past as it cannot be changed and agree all equal opportunity to black or white. I had dirt poor, broken home friends that are now lawyers and engineers no special treatment just through hard work. Ok getting off topic RANT over LOL. Again you are at the Olympics! Most athlete's would give anything to be there! Just seems petty to me but I am not a professional swimmer so JMO Wow. Uhhhh... and it's someone else dragging unrelated issues into this? |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 4:59:09 PM EST
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Posted: 7/3/2021 4:59:44 PM EST
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Are there any white female swimmers who keep their hair long and need such a cap?
If there are are they allowed to wear such a cap? No and no Fuck off with this everything is racists bullshit |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:03:00 PM EST
[#31]
Oooh!! Do tell….do tell
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:09:57 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They FINA piss off a lot of black swimmers! both of them? |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:10:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's amazing that swimming has been an Olympic sport for 120 years and 2021 is the year that race based equipment becomes a topic of debate. It seems like the only fair option is to require everyone to compete naked. Any and all body coverings would offer and unfair advantage. Naturally large or small endowments could be an advantage or disadvantage, such as large feet, hands or other body parts. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:11:40 PM EST
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Japan is definitely one of the least multicultural and multiethnic nations out there.
They give zero fucks about our social justice idiocy. Good for them. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:12:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pro level indoor men's volleyball is fucking hardcore. The way some of these guys jump, some of them serve as fast as a baseball pitcher,... Most of the Euros are probably wusses but they can play. I call BS, 120 mph volleyball LOL!! |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:13:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care but find it interesting that these are banned but dudes competing against women is not. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:18:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not how hydrodynamics works. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's adding to the surface area...certainly not an advantage. Doesn't pass the common sense test to me. That's not how hydrodynamics works. would you mind telling us how it does and if there is any potential relation to the cap in question? |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:27:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are two black female swimmers on Team USA. One of them, Simone Manuel, won two gold medals and two silver medals at the last Olympics. There are no black male swimmers on Team USA. However, black male swimmers have won gold before. For example, Cullen Jones won gold in 2008 and 2012. There are always exceptions to the rule. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:30:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Opinion - Some Black people sure seem to whine and complain a lot..........Where are all the happy Black folks ? I know they are bound to exist ...............  NAACP = National Assocation of Always Complaining People. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:35:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They FINA piss off a lot of black swimmers! What will all 4 of them do? |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:45:18 PM EST
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Can anybody use the new cap? Then who the fuck cares.
Stupid ban. Like almost all bans. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:46:05 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Easilly solved. No caps, goggles, or swimsuits of any kind. No, unfair advantage to the Cubans and Haitians |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:49:06 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Japan is definitely one of the least multicultural and multiethnic nations out there. They give zero fucks about our social justice idiocy. Good for them. FINA. Japan is hosting the Olympics. FINA governs olympic swimming rules. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 6:26:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anybody use the new cap? Then who the fuck cares. Stupid ban. Like almost all bans. Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anybody use the new cap? Then who the fuck cares. Stupid ban. Like almost all bans. The caps were barred by FINA on the grounds that to their "best knowledge, the athletes competing at the international events never used, neither require to use, caps of such size and configuration." This is just a publicity stunt by the company making them. 
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Posted: 7/4/2021 6:24:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If anyone bothered to read the OP or linked article they would have learned that none of the athletes competing in the olympics want to use these caps. This is just a publicity stunt by the company making them. No, no, no. We have to make this about race. |
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Posted: 7/4/2021 6:26:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait wouldn't it be aquadynamic? Hydrodynamic. That said, NFG. Honk honk |
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Posted: 7/4/2021 6:45:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just ban all swim caps. A serious competitor will shave their head! Very much this. I remember it was a big deal when people learned competitive swimmers shaved their legs to reduce drag. If you are competing at the absolute pinnacle of your sport, you do whatever you have to to win. Suck it up. If you really want to burn the American flag, do what you have to do. |
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Posted: 7/4/2021 6:49:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They FINA piss off a lot of black swimmers! |
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Posted: 7/4/2021 7:23:46 AM EST
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This is clearly an attempt to quietly attack all of the black swimmers of the world. Both of them are probably pretty pissed.
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Posted: 7/4/2021 7:32:38 AM EST
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As long as all swimmers can use all caps, whatever I guess, but to imply that changing the shape of your head will not confer advantages to hydrodynamic efficiency is fucking dumb.
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