Mi essentially has been in the playoff race for their last few games. They're running on all cylinders and peaking at the right time.

Will be interesting to watch

Double tap from being in the woods.

And now they have it at -120 vig.
I got it at +7.5 and -110

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Playoffs and national championship is about determining who the overall #1 team is. You can’t achieve that by leaving out better teams just because they all play in the same conference.

I like your thought process of determining who the best conference is though. I’d personally like to see some stipulation that all teams from all the conferences play a member of the other 4 power 5s. That would mean only playing 8 conference games and no G5 or FCS though since the remaining 4 games would be vs other P5 conferences. The drawback is the G5 and FCS paydays would go away and their athletic budgets would then suffer leading them to cancel programs.

Have any of y’all watched BYU? UAB is playing the Mormons in the Independence Bowl in Shreveport.

Should Pitt be pissed if the refs blew it dead?  

Looking at the same as a fake punt is not equal since you can still tackle/block a punt and it isn’t a auto deadball if you try a fake punt……you cannot hit a defenseless player (someone that is sliding….in the rules, “A ball carrier who has obviously given themselves up and is sliding feet-first.”)….so you would have to make a split second decision,  both the refs and the defense, if he has really started to slide or not.

With sliding, you are down where you start the slide …you not where you hit the ground.  By purposely showing that he is going to slide, he could have been ruled be down right then since it is signaling to the defense that they should avoid you at all costs or risk getting a personal foul.

If someone happened to hit him during his fake slide, they likely would have thrown a flag.

Overall, it sucks if you are ok or not ok with the fake slide since it would come down to judgement call by the ref.

First of all, I think Cinci probably wins 10 games with uga's schedule. Do they win the sec? No, probably not, but the sec east was as weak as it's ever been this season. So I think they'd have had a chance to compete for the east. As for the b10, it's not as if the b10 was uncommonly good this season. I think they could possibly have won the west. Would they have run the table? Probably not. I don't think Cinci is this great team or anything. I just think that the idea that uga is head and shoulders above Cinci, while it might be true with regard to talent, it's not as clear as it may seem...especially given the results the last time they played.

Not a bad slate of games..

MSU
bama
Michigan
ND
OSU
Baylor

Iowa St. vs Clemson

Bad investments by the previous President (Donna Shalala) which led to empty pockets, cheap hires and loss of home field advantage when the Orange Bowl was demolished.

Wasn't Donna Shalala a diversity hire?

It's not that they don't care about football. It's that they care more about Uhealth. Also, one investigation which turned out to be a huge nothingburger. The stadium is a huge issue though. Hard Rock is too big, too far and the tiny student body is too apathetic to travel 20 miles to get drunk and watch mediocre football.

How are they going to actually be sliding on the ground and not touching the ground at the same time?

But in general I'm all for cutting back on a lot of the targeting bullshit. It's a game where you hit each other at a run. You might get fucked up. No one is forcing a single player to be out there.

There is alot to be said about pure recruiting power. Kirby sucks dick as a coach (same with richt) - but by sheer loaded rosters, had UGA in the hunt. If Cristobal actually does go to Miami - he will have y'all in the hunt. And in the acc with a loaded roaster, that means acc titles. I'm thinking y'all will have a little run in about 3 years.

Hate saying this because she's a Clintonite bitch, but she actually did an outstanding job as president. The Miami program has had plenty of resources to at the very least win more than one Acc coastal title. The athletic department has been poorly managed for a long time. At the same time, the conditions that existed with regard to recruiting and home field advantage when Miami was winning championships are no longer there.

Just got our tkts for the RV lot and game at the Cotton bowl.

Yes, but the slide is "started" where a player makes contact with the ground, in the same manner that they would be considered down in other situations. They are not down until something other than the hands or feet touch the ground.

All he did was drag a foot and the defenders assumed he was going to slide because that's what QBs usually do. Gotcha!

Lets do:

Michigan
Bama
UGA
tOSU

They deserve another shot

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if the new head coach is a defensive guy like venebles, is there a risk caleb leaves?

split the g5 out on their own and this becomes much more feasible.

but everyone in the country would be fighting to schedule kansas and vanderbilt

Can't imagine there's any "if" to it at this point.  The Oklahoma AD got off a private jet at our local airport about two hours ago.

The team was told about the same time.

I’ve watched some. Not enough to say anymore than they are a physical team that virtually played a P5 schedule that included 7 P5 teams. Pretty good doing that and going 10-2.

Incorrect, if it was the same as other situations, then you would be down where you make contact with the ground…..but it isn’t like that.  

He also dipped his hips a little.  The rule doesn’t say it is downed when you make contact with the ground, it is where you start the action.

Ball Declared Dead
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound their whistle or declare it dead:
a. When it goes out of bounds other than a kick that scores a field goal after
touching the uprights or crossbar; when a ball carrier is out of bounds; or when a ball carrier is so held that their forward progress is stopped. When in question, the ball is dead (A.R. 4-2-1-II).
b. When any part of the ball carrier’s body, except the hand or foot, touches the ground or when the ball carrier is tackled or otherwise falls and loses possession of the ball as they contact the ground with any part of their body, except the hand or foot [Exception: The ball remains alive when an offensive player has simulated a kick or at the snap is in postion to kick the ball held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or advanced by rule] (A.R. 4-1-3-I).
c. When a touchdown, touchback, safety, field goal or successful try occurs; or when a free kick or a scrimmage kick that is untouched by Team B beyond the neutral zone touches the ground in Team B’s end zone (Rules 6-1-7-a, 6-3-9, and A.R. 6-3-9-I).
d. When, during a try, a dead-ball rule applies (Rule 8-3-2-d-5).
e. When a player of the kicking team catches or recovers any free kick or a
scrimmage kick that has crossed the neutral zone.
f. When a free kick, scrimmage kick or any other loose ball comes to rest and
no player attempts to secure it.
g. When a scrimmage kick or a free kick is caught or recovered by any Team B player after a valid or invalid fair-catch signal by a Team B player; or when an invalid fair-catch signal is made after a catch or recovery by Team B (Rules 2-8-1 through 3).
h. When there is a return kick or a scrimmage kick is made beyond the neutral zone.
i. When a forward pass is ruled incomplete.
j. When, before a change of team possession on fourth down or a try, a Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the fumbler
(Rules 7-2-2-a and -b and 8-3-2-d-5).
k. When a live ball not in player possession touches anything inbounds other
than a player, a player’s equipment, an official, an official’s equipment or
the ground (inadvertent-whistle provisions apply).
l. When there is a simultaneous catch or recovery of a live ball.
m. Whentheballbecomesillegalwhileinplay(inadvertent-whistleprovisions
apply).
n. When a live ball comes into possession of an official (inadvertent-whistle provisions apply).
o. When a ball carrier simulates placing their knee on the ground.
p. When an airborne pass receiver of either team is held so that they are prevented from immediately returning to the ground (A.R. 7-3-6-III).
q. When a ball carrier’s helmet comes completely off.
r. When a ball carrier obviously begins a feet-first slide. (A.R. 4-1-3-III)

I would argue that if we can call it a fake slide, then obviously there were signs that it is the beginning of a slide….

Still the thing I hate about faking a slide is that it causes a judgement call by the players/refs that can lead to penalties or inadvertent stoppage.

I wish I could afford the tickets and my 85 year old father have the ability to travel. I’d take him in a heartbeat........ he’s been a Bama fan since he was a young man but he’s too old to go anymore

Out of curiosity what did that set you back?

I'd say 95% a done deal.

Interesting is a report about another jet from Vegas.  The speculation being Dabo.

Exactly. The only way that would work fairly would be to put all the teams in a computer and let it decide the games. Set the program so you run thru every team in the other conferences 1 time each before you repeat the cycle. It would take 15 years or so to play everyone but so what.

Then you would have true conference vs conference records.
I know they do that with bowl games but it’s just not a true representation due to optouts.

It would work until the computer told Saban he was playing Utah, Michigan and Clemson in the same year.

Except I gave very solid arguments.

UGA lost to the only good team they played.
UGA is Bama’s bitch.

Did you ever say who you would have put in instead of them?

Someone snapped a picture of the AD at Venables' house.  One comment was funny, as they said Brent was showing the Oklahoma AD why he should take the Clemson job (our AD is going to Miami).

The Leach Bowl will be awesome…

lol that’s the first thing I noticed

That…then the Duke Mayo bowl…N vs S Carolina


I find if funny that BYU is 12th….playing UAB

Iowa vs Kentucky….straightforward football.

Wisconsin vs AZ St….somewhat interesting

Penn St vs Arkansas….ok

Oregon vs OU….nice

FL playing cccf.  In before mattyvac is crowing about beating a P5 team (even though they suck) and outofstep humbles him with a verbal beatdown.

Yea, I’ve looked over BYU’s schedule and watched YT videos for this season.

They’re the 2nd best team we’ll play this season behind UGA.

They beat several really good teams and Utah. All I have to say is that Clark better be working on one hell of a game plan.

Wisconsin fans love a trip to Vegas. I hate how this season panned out, and it's a bitter end. But Vegas for New Years isn't a bad time at all.

I am amazed my Hogs are in a New Years Day bowl after the last nine years of misery.

Sam Pittman is my Coach of the year.

Is this the first time Oklahoma and Oregon have played since that travesty of a game in 2006?

I swear they have played since, but probably butterfly effect.

Ok, I'll bite.  Looking at Georgia's schedule this year, where are the 10 wins?  Keep in mind, now, Cincy struggled to beat Navy (3 wins), Tulsa (6 wins), Indiana (2 wins), and Tulane (2 wins).  That's four struggles against teams that won a total of 13 games, with none of them having winning records.  



Results in a bowl game last year are absolutely irrelevant to this year, especially considering the number of opt-outs and injuries on that Georgia squad.  

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I foresee a season ending “injury” to Bennett during preps for Michigan.   Then JT Daniels comes in to save the day.

o dayum

No chance, Kirby is going down with the USS Bennett...all hands aboard.

What makes all of this worse, Bennett still has another year of eligibility.  If he comes back, at the very least you lose Daniels, and possibly Beck or Vandagriff.  At some point, highly rated QB's are going to start avoiding Georgia and Smart...and I don't blame them one bit.

Power Rankings Guru
Alabama 8
Michigan 22
Georgia 32

teamrankings.com
Alabama 1
Georgia 2
Michigan 4

warrennolen.com
Alabama 14
Georgia 30
Michigan 38

Sagarin
Alabama 1
Georgia 2
Michigan 4

lot of variance.

If gus malzahn knows anything about CCCF and bowl games, it's losing. UF by 7+ even being in a shambles. ??