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Posted: 12/6/2021 2:02:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the non gamblers a few questions: The -7.5 means that Georgia has to beat UM by 8 to "win" the bet, correct? What does the money line do? And, the over/under is based on the combined points of both teams? Thank you.  Correct. Money line is a bet on who will win the game, regardless of the score. A +220 means you would win $220 if you placed a $100 bet on Michigan to win the game. Over under is the combined score. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 2:11:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the non gamblers a few questions: The -7.5 means that Georgia has to beat UM by 8 to "win" the bet, correct? What does the money line do? And, the over/under is based on the combined points of both teams? Thank you. Yes Georgia has to win by 8 for you to win that bet if you bet on Georgia. Just add 7.5 points to Michigans final score. And don’t kid yourself thinking that 1/2 point isn’t important. Especially when it’s on a key football scoring number like 7. Georgia wins by 7 points 35-28 yet the bettors with that 1/2 point cover. I’ve had that happen several times this year. Couple weeks ago had Okie St -4.5 when they beat Oklahoma by 4. Ouch. I could have and should have bought that 1/2 point and taken Okie St -4 which is an option. Not going into those details right now. The money line is a bet involving no point spread. Just pick the winner. Since Georgia is the favorite they will be listed with a minus (-) symbol in front of the number. Since Michigan is the underdog they will have a plus (+) symbol in front of their number.  Attached FileIn the example above Georgia is the favorite listed at -280. That means for every $280 you bet you win $100. Michigan is the underdog listed at +240. That means for every $100 you bet you win $240. Huge difference and why underdogs that have a legitimate chance of winning are pretty good bets. Sometimes you will even see both teams with a negative (-) moneyline. That’s normally in a small favorite situation. I believe the NCSt / UCLA point spread right now is NCSt -1 and both have - money lines. Yes, the over/unders are the total score of both teams added together at the end of the game including overtime if played. And if for whatever reason a bet on the point spread or over under lands on that exact number it’s termed a push and you get your money back. That’s another reason those 1/2 points are huge. There can be no ties. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 2:51:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The point I was trying to make isn't if they would/should be in the playoffs. The point was they control their strength of schedule and the BS about them being a victim of their conference affiliation. When I point out they could schedule 4 P5 teams as their out of conference schedule people give me the crazy look and say "nobody would be stupid enough to schedule 4 P5 games for their non-conference schedule". But think of this: Every single SEC team has to play 8 SEC games every year, generally schedules 1 P5, then gets 3 G5 games. (generally speaking) Cincinati has 11 G5 games and 1 P5 in their schedule. IF they scheduled all non-conference games as P5 schools they'd still have 8 G5 games and 4 P5 games, that's the most difficult they could make their schedule but for some reason that's worse than just playing a P5 schedule as an SEC/Big12/B1G team? Common, they choose to play crap games and play the victim when they get left out in the cold with one loss like 2019 and 2020. I'm using Cinci here as the example, but UCF played this victim game for years too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And yet, they're playing in the College Football Playoffs and just about everyone else isn't. That is a program changer regardless of the outcome and should set them up nicely to go into the Big 12 and start playing money ball. Strength of schedule be damned, if we could have played that schedule and ended up in the CFP, I'd be buying CFP Aggie stuff, not lamenting my poor decision making in having a cream puff schedule. We'll find out how smart they were after the bama game. The point I was trying to make isn't if they would/should be in the playoffs. The point was they control their strength of schedule and the BS about them being a victim of their conference affiliation. When I point out they could schedule 4 P5 teams as their out of conference schedule people give me the crazy look and say "nobody would be stupid enough to schedule 4 P5 games for their non-conference schedule". But think of this: Every single SEC team has to play 8 SEC games every year, generally schedules 1 P5, then gets 3 G5 games. (generally speaking) Cincinati has 11 G5 games and 1 P5 in their schedule. IF they scheduled all non-conference games as P5 schools they'd still have 8 G5 games and 4 P5 games, that's the most difficult they could make their schedule but for some reason that's worse than just playing a P5 schedule as an SEC/Big12/B1G team? Common, they choose to play crap games and play the victim when they get left out in the cold with one loss like 2019 and 2020. I'm using Cinci here as the example, but UCF played this victim game for years too. Nothing posted here is BS |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing posted here is BS You definitely have wb blocked. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:13:54 PM EDT
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Miami finally has a decent coach.
It will be interesting to see who Oregon gets. Kelly could be coming back. Lots of changes in the PNW. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:18:32 PM EDT
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Sam Howell will play in the Duke’s Mayo bowl in Charlotte versus Lower Carolina. This is the same venue and opponent as his first game at UNC.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:39:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Miami finally has a decent coach. It will be interesting to see who Oregon gets. Kelly could be coming back. Lots of changes in the PNW. You think Oregon wants Kelly back? He hasn’t set the world on fire at UCLA. They did improve this year but it makes me wonder. He was a hot commodity for a while. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:40:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sam Howell will play in the Duke’s Mayo bowl in Charlotte versus Lower Carolina. This is the same venue and opponent as his first game at UNC. Isn’t lower Carolina the favorite? Is another SEC team gonna be your daddy 2 years in a row? |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think Oregon wants Kelly back? He hasn’t set the world on fire at UCLA. They did improve this year but it makes me wonder. He was a hot commodity for a while. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Miami finally has a decent coach. It will be interesting to see who Oregon gets. Kelly could be coming back. Lots of changes in the PNW. You think Oregon wants Kelly back? He hasn’t set the world on fire at UCLA. They did improve this year but it makes me wonder. He was a hot commodity for a while. There is a lot of buzz for him and even Petersen. The other options are going after Baylor, BYU, or even Oregon State's head coach. Some have mentioned Campbell. This could be a last shot for him to get a raise, but if he turned down 7m/yr for UW, he probably isn't going to bite on Oregon's offer |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think Oregon wants Kelly back? He hasn’t set the world on fire at UCLA. They did improve this year but it makes me wonder. He was a hot commodity for a while. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Miami finally has a decent coach. It will be interesting to see who Oregon gets. Kelly could be coming back. Lots of changes in the PNW. You think Oregon wants Kelly back? He hasn’t set the world on fire at UCLA. They did improve this year but it makes me wonder. He was a hot commodity for a while. I'd go after Aranda before underwhelming Kelly... he was better when they were able to buy players |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably because not enough Alabama residents can color inside the lines to get accepted  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 60% of the students at UoA are from out of state. AL brings a national audience on TV. Probably because not enough Alabama residents can color inside the lines to get accepted Chances are if you are/were a student at UoA during the Saban years you got to see a National Champ team while enrolled. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:13:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chances are if you are/were a student at UoA during the Saban years you got to see a National Champ team while enrolled. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 60% of the students at UoA are from out of state. AL brings a national audience on TV. Probably because not enough Alabama residents can color inside the lines to get accepted Chances are if you are/were a student at UoA during the Saban years you got to see a National Champ team while enrolled. National Champs but can they read English? |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:18:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: National Champs but can they read English? https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/the-university-of-alabama-100751/overall-rankings |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:28:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn’t lower Carolina the favorite? Is another SEC team gonna be your daddy 2 years in a row? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sam Howell will play in the Duke’s Mayo bowl in Charlotte versus Lower Carolina. This is the same venue and opponent as his first game at UNC. Isn’t lower Carolina the favorite? Is another SEC team gonna be your daddy 2 years in a row?  Attached FileHowell is gonna go out like he started - whippin’ that SEC ass. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:31:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a lot of buzz for him and even Petersen. The other options are going after Baylor, BYU, or even Oregon State's head coach. Some have mentioned Campbell. This could be a last shot for him to get a raise, but if he turned down 7m/yr for UW, he probably isn't going to bite on Oregon's offer I’d love for Aranda to go to Oregon. In a year or two he will have the Ducks destroying usc. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/the-university-of-alabama-100751/overall-rankings Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: National Champs but can they read English? https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/the-university-of-alabama-100751/overall-rankings Harvard of the South 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:40:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd go after Aranda before underwhelming Kelly... he was better when they were able to buy players Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Miami finally has a decent coach. It will be interesting to see who Oregon gets. Kelly could be coming back. Lots of changes in the PNW. You think Oregon wants Kelly back? He hasn’t set the world on fire at UCLA. They did improve this year but it makes me wonder. He was a hot commodity for a while. I'd go after Aranda before underwhelming Kelly... he was better when they were able to buy players You can legally buy players now and Oregon has Phil Knights backing. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:43:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/5C32B448-C8A6-4856-BFB7-C82D3A9A21B7_jpe-2194502.JPG Howell is gonna go out like he started - whippin’ that SEC ass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sam Howell will play in the Duke’s Mayo bowl in Charlotte versus Lower Carolina. This is the same venue and opponent as his first game at UNC. Isn’t lower Carolina the favorite? Is another SEC team gonna be your daddy 2 years in a row? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/5C32B448-C8A6-4856-BFB7-C82D3A9A21B7_jpe-2194502.JPG Howell is gonna go out like he started - whippin’ that SEC ass. I saw on an SEC message board that every SEC team was favored in their bowls. Should have known better. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can legally buy players now and Oregon has Phil Knights backing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Miami finally has a decent coach. It will be interesting to see who Oregon gets. Kelly could be coming back. Lots of changes in the PNW. You think Oregon wants Kelly back? He hasn’t set the world on fire at UCLA. They did improve this year but it makes me wonder. He was a hot commodity for a while. I'd go after Aranda before underwhelming Kelly... he was better when they were able to buy players You can legally buy players now and Oregon has Phil Knights backing. Previously they were paying handlers for recruits, thought Phil stopped giving O money but I don't keep up with the whacko coast too well |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw on an SEC message board that every SEC team was favored in their bowls. Should have known better. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sam Howell will play in the Duke’s Mayo bowl in Charlotte versus Lower Carolina. This is the same venue and opponent as his first game at UNC. Isn’t lower Carolina the favorite? Is another SEC team gonna be your daddy 2 years in a row? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/5C32B448-C8A6-4856-BFB7-C82D3A9A21B7_jpe-2194502.JPG Howell is gonna go out like he started - whippin’ that SEC ass. I saw on an SEC message board that every SEC team was favored in their bowls. Should have known better. Sacrificing some teams so others have more winnable matchups. I recall a 7-5 TTU vs. a 8(9)-3 (9th game was hurricane canceled FCS ) LSU Mahomes kept us in it the first half |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:00:46 PM EDT
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why would a coach leave Oregon to go to Miami? i dont understand this move at all.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:01:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: why would a coach leave Oregon to go to Miami? i dont understand this move at all. Probably doesn't want to be forced to take jabs from doctors and wear a mask all the time |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:02:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: why would a coach leave Oregon to go to Miami? i dont understand this move at all. He's from Miami, played for UM from 89-92, and his dying mother is there now. 8m a year and highest assistant coaching budget in the ACC helps too. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:30:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can legally buy players now and Oregon has Phil Knights backing.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:32:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can legally buy players now and Oregon has Phil Knights backing.
You’re about to see that everywhere. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The point I was trying to make isn't if they would/should be in the playoffs. The point was they control their strength of schedule and the BS about them being a victim of their conference affiliation. When I point out they could schedule 4 P5 teams as their out of conference schedule people give me the crazy look and say "nobody would be stupid enough to schedule 4 P5 games for their non-conference schedule". But think of this: Every single SEC team has to play 8 SEC games every year, generally schedules 1 P5, then gets 3 G5 games. (generally speaking) Cincinati has 11 G5 games and 1 P5 in their schedule. IF they scheduled all non-conference games as P5 schools they'd still have 8 G5 games and 4 P5 games, that's the most difficult they could make their schedule but for some reason that's worse than just playing a P5 schedule as an SEC/Big12/B1G team? Common, they choose to play crap games and play the victim when they get left out in the cold with one loss like 2019 and 2020. I'm using Cinci here as the example, but UCF played this victim game for years too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And yet, they're playing in the College Football Playoffs and just about everyone else isn't. That is a program changer regardless of the outcome and should set them up nicely to go into the Big 12 and start playing money ball. Strength of schedule be damned, if we could have played that schedule and ended up in the CFP, I'd be buying CFP Aggie stuff, not lamenting my poor decision making in having a cream puff schedule. We'll find out how smart they were after the bama game. The point I was trying to make isn't if they would/should be in the playoffs. The point was they control their strength of schedule and the BS about them being a victim of their conference affiliation. When I point out they could schedule 4 P5 teams as their out of conference schedule people give me the crazy look and say "nobody would be stupid enough to schedule 4 P5 games for their non-conference schedule". But think of this: Every single SEC team has to play 8 SEC games every year, generally schedules 1 P5, then gets 3 G5 games. (generally speaking) Cincinati has 11 G5 games and 1 P5 in their schedule. IF they scheduled all non-conference games as P5 schools they'd still have 8 G5 games and 4 P5 games, that's the most difficult they could make their schedule but for some reason that's worse than just playing a P5 schedule as an SEC/Big12/B1G team? Common, they choose to play crap games and play the victim when they get left out in the cold with one loss like 2019 and 2020. I'm using Cinci here as the example, but UCF played this victim game for years too. I think we are going to have a front row seat to how big the differences are. If it goes the way we think it will, the G5 will probably never get another shot again. If it goes Boise St. versus OU, then who knows? |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:37:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Correct. Money line is a bet on who will win the game, regardless of the score. A +220 means you would win $220 if you placed a $100 bet on Michigan to win the game. Over under is the combined score. Quoted: Yes Georgia has to win by 8 for you to win that bet if you bet on Georgia. Just add 7.5 points to Michigans final score. And don't kid yourself thinking that 1/2 point isn't important. Especially when it's on a key football scoring number like 7. Georgia wins by 7 points 35-28 yet the bettors with that 1/2 point cover. I've had that happen several times this year. Couple weeks ago had Okie St -4.5 when they beat Oklahoma by 4. Ouch. I could have and should have bought that 1/2 point and taken Okie St -4 which is an option. Not going into those details right now. The money line is a bet involving no point spread. Just pick the winner. Since Georgia is the favorite they will be listed with a minus (-) symbol in front of the number. Since Michigan is the underdog they will have a plus (+) symbol in front of their number. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/394844/2929DA34-4F44-463E-9D29-FA123D5EAE5D_jpe-2194336.JPG In the example above Georgia is the favorite listed at -280. That means for every $280 you bet you win $100. Michigan is the underdog listed at +240. That means for every $100 you bet you win $240. Huge difference and why underdogs that have a legitimate chance of winning are pretty good bets. Sometimes you will even see both teams with a negative (-) moneyline. That's normally in a small favorite situation. I believe the NCSt / UCLA point spread right now is NCSt -1 and both have - money lines. Yes, the over/unders are the total score of both teams added together at the end of the game including overtime if played. And if for whatever reason a bet on the point spread or over under lands on that exact number it's termed a push and you get your money back. That's another reason those 1/2 points are huge. There can be no ties. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:11:46 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Harvard of the South lol, Florida has been trying to claim that title for years. They at least have the so-far-left-liberal-bullshit-crammed-down-your-throat-at-every-turn thing down pat. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:14:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you both. I generally never bet on human beings, they're damn unreliable, but it might be fun to throw a little play money at it. Where does everyone bet? Especially a bunch of college kids who may or may not be out on South Beach getting shithammered drunk the night before the game. Put me down for $5. I’m good for it. 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:18:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY. Monk Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: New SEC Shorts is up. Hope is a cruel   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnM64WLLzYoMonk I was waiting for the pepper spray to come out. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:43:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:45:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
There is zero (0) chance that LSU is not number one on that list. Those coon asses don’t fuck around. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:54:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is zero (0) chance that LSU is not number one on that list. Those coon asses don’t fuck around. Didn't LSU famously drink all the available alcohol in the entire stadium before halftime one game a year or two ago? ETA: YEP, it was LSU fans and they drank the stadium dry before KICKOFF!! https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/lsu-football/reports-lsu-fans-drink-rose-bowl-dry-of-beer-before-kickoff/ |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:59:07 PM EDT
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lol does it’s surprise anyone that it’s Nebraska. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:00:04 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol does it’s surprise anyone that it’s Nebraska. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
lol does it’s surprise anyone that it’s Nebraska. They come and stay for the game...
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:09:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is zero (0) chance that LSU is not number one on that list. Those coon asses don't fuck around. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:14:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: National Champs but can they read English? https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/the-university-of-alabama-100751/overall-rankings I guess we know they can't hyperlink. Fixed for you. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:18:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Harvard of the South Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: National Champs but can they read English? https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/the-university-of-alabama-100751/overall-rankings Harvard of the South Most of those rankings are in the hundreds . Looks like cccf can finally compete against a school in something.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:42:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is zero (0) chance that LSU is not number one on that list. Those coon asses don’t fuck around. Fans at Camp Randall enter the chat |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:46:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2021 9:10:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2021 9:10:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was waiting for the pepper spray to come out.  Monk |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 9:26:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAlcohol abuse is slightly different than drinking |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 9:52:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I figured it would be where it's cold topping the list...and I was right. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
No surprise Kansas is near the top. You have to be shitfaced to watch that team play..... 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 9:58:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No surprise Kansas is near the top. You have to be shitfaced to watch that team play..... Unless they were playing Texas or Oklahoma.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryShit, if they only knew how much bourbon has been smuggled into Protective Stadium already. I think @BamaBushmaster and I killed an unopened bottle of Buffalo Trace one game. There’s more than 3 drinks each in the bottle.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:26:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol does it’s surprise anyone that it’s Nebraska. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
lol does it’s surprise anyone that it’s Nebraska. Here is my surprised face..... 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:35:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is my surprised face..... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
lol does it’s surprise anyone that it’s Nebraska. Here is my surprised face..... Definitely a rough year. Crazy those 9 losses were all by 8 points or less. 5 of those losses were to teams that ended up ranked #17 or higher so that’s a big boy schedule and no one blew them out. As crazy as this may sound, Nebraska isn’t a bad football team. They just need to learn to win. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely a rough year. Crazy those 9 losses were all by 8 points or less. 5 of those losses were to teams that ended up ranked #17 or higher so that’s a big boy schedule and no one blew them out. As crazy as this may sound, Nebraska isn’t a bad football team. They just need to learn to win. I read that they had the toughest schedule of all FBS teams this year. You are correct, they need to learn how to win. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:40:02 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely a rough year. Crazy those 9 losses were all by 8 points or less. 5 of those losses were to teams that ended up ranked #17 or higher so that’s a big boy schedule and no one blew them out. As crazy as this may sound, Nebraska isn’t a bad football team. They just need to learn to win. Transfer Portal may help them next year. |
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