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Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:29:36 AM EDT
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No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.
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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….

Of course not, none of us are.

That's why "I think..."

What do you think?



Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.  Honestly, between the two teams, OSU I think is the better team head to head and makes a better playoff team. I believe TCU has to win to stay in the mix.  USC as a blue blood is eye candy to bowl committees, but they’ve been down for a few years and they need to win to safely make it in.  This, imo, is from many years of seeing how things work in this sport.


Yep
No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.


Sucks the two CFP contenders with the toughest SOS get less margin than those who played weak sauce schedules
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:34:10 AM EDT
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Blue bloods > game results
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:35:25 AM EDT
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Bob hasn’t hit the road yet…….. soon, very soon
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Tom Herman to FAU

Clapping mack brown is the only coach to land a decent job after being shitcanned from uT


guess saban doesnt want to bring him in as OC under the Saban Rehab Program




Bob hasn’t hit the road yet…….. soon, very soon



is he waiting until sunday so they know bama is officially out of the playoff?
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:36:43 AM EDT
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well what do you know? the pac actually can schedule a game worth watching at a decent time. surprised they didnt make it 10:30 eastern



Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:37:21 AM EDT
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Blue bloods > game results


USC is gonna be pretty upset they aren't getting the blue blood pass those sweater puppies seem pretty blue bloody
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:37:56 AM EDT
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USC is not a "blue blood"?
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:39:58 AM EDT
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USC is not a "blue blood"?

They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:41:40 AM EDT
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They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.
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USC is not a "blue blood"?

They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.


Recent success > Current season results too apparently
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:42:18 AM EDT
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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….


I could see TCU with a close loss getting in.

I don’t think they get in if K state wins by 10+
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:44:03 AM EDT
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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….

Of course not, none of us are.

That's why "I think..."

What do you think?



Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.  Honestly, between the two teams, OSU I think is the better team head to head and makes a better playoff team. I believe TCU has to win to stay in the mix.  USC as a blue blood is eye candy to bowl committees, but they’ve been down for a few years and they need to win to safely make it in.  This, imo, is from many years of seeing how things work in this sport.


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No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.


Sucks the two CFP contenders with the toughest SOS get less margin than those who played weak sauce schedules


TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:45:44 AM EDT
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Jon make NFL QB money for many years.

Maybe a life of leisure gave a bit too much free time to get hooked on self-destructive elements.

Just speculation but we all have seen that happen before.
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Damn, I'd hate to be in Jalen Kitna's shoes

It's a shame.

I know Jon Kitna and his wife.  We all went to school together.  Religious people.

I remember when Jalen was born.  What a shame, but fuck CP and anyone associated with it.


Yeah, it makes you wonder where the kid went off the rails to get involved in something like that

Jon make NFL QB money for many years.

Maybe a life of leisure gave a bit too much free time to get hooked on self-destructive elements.

Just speculation but we all have seen that happen before.


Was reading a few different articles about him, sounds like he shared child sex abuse images on Discord.
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:48:07 AM EDT
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TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.
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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….

Of course not, none of us are.

That's why "I think..."

What do you think?



Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.  Honestly, between the two teams, OSU I think is the better team head to head and makes a better playoff team. I believe TCU has to win to stay in the mix.  USC as a blue blood is eye candy to bowl committees, but they’ve been down for a few years and they need to win to safely make it in.  This, imo, is from many years of seeing how things work in this sport.


Yep
No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.


Sucks the two CFP contenders with the toughest SOS get less margin than those who played weak sauce schedules


TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.


Utah and K State are obviously the toughest teams in CCG's this weekend as well....

Nobody is talking about UGA or UM getting tossed if they lose their CCG, against lesser competition but the speculation about TCU and USC is endless

ETA:  Bama at 28?  Only current ranked win is against #24 Miss State
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:48:45 AM EDT
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Recent success > Current season results too apparently
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USC is not a "blue blood"?

They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.


Recent success > Current season results too apparently

I get it, but this does seem to factor in.
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:49:41 AM EDT
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I get it, but this does seem to factor in.
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USC is not a "blue blood"?

They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.


Recent success > Current season results too apparently

I get it, but this does seem to factor in.


I think history will look back at 4 team CFP as a shenanigan filled shitshow of committee decisions.
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 8:50:04 AM EDT
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I could see TCU with a close loss getting in.

I don’t think they get in if K state wins by 10+
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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….


I could see TCU with a close loss getting in.

I don’t think they get in if K state wins by 10+

A close loss might not hurt them, but I’d put money on two scores dropping them out.
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TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.
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i have a hard time agreeing that OSU's sos is anywhere near USC's, and neither are close to TCU's



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Losing CCG game by 2 scores should keep any team out but that ship sailed too
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Utah and K State are obviously the toughest teams in CCG's this weekend as well....

Nobody is talking about UGA or UM getting tossed if they lose their CCG, against lesser competition but the speculation about TCU and USC is endless

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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….

Of course not, none of us are.

That's why "I think..."

What do you think?



Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.  Honestly, between the two teams, OSU I think is the better team head to head and makes a better playoff team. I believe TCU has to win to stay in the mix.  USC as a blue blood is eye candy to bowl committees, but they’ve been down for a few years and they need to win to safely make it in.  This, imo, is from many years of seeing how things work in this sport.


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No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.


Sucks the two CFP contenders with the toughest SOS get less margin than those who played weak sauce schedules


TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.


Utah and K State are obviously the toughest teams in CCG's this weekend as well....

Nobody is talking about UGA or UM getting tossed if they lose their CCG, against lesser competition but the speculation about TCU and USC is endless

ETA:  Bama at 28?  Only current ranked win is against #24 Miss State

I think UGA and Michigan are set.  I doubt either will lose and if one does it probably won’t be by much.  That said, the game’s played on the field and not on paper.
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They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.
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USC is not a "blue blood"?

They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.


One could also make the argument that Utah is better if they beat them again. 2 losses to the same team and I’m thinking the other team is better.
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One could also make the argument that Utah is better if they beat them again. 2 losses to the same team and I’m thinking the other team is better.
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USC is not a "blue blood"?

They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.


One could also make the argument that Utah is better if they beat them again. 2 losses to the same team and I’m thinking the other team is better.


With Utah it'd be a big time and valid argument.  Honestly they've been a very good program in recent history
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Utah and K State are obviously the toughest teams in CCG's this weekend as well....

Nobody is talking about UGA or UM getting tossed if they lose their CCG, against lesser competition but the speculation about TCU and USC is endless

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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….

Of course not, none of us are.

That's why "I think..."

What do you think?



Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.  Honestly, between the two teams, OSU I think is the better team head to head and makes a better playoff team. I believe TCU has to win to stay in the mix.  USC as a blue blood is eye candy to bowl committees, but they’ve been down for a few years and they need to win to safely make it in.  This, imo, is from many years of seeing how things work in this sport.


Yep
No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.


Sucks the two CFP contenders with the toughest SOS get less margin than those who played weak sauce schedules


TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.


Utah and K State are obviously the toughest teams in CCG's this weekend as well....

Nobody is talking about UGA or UM getting tossed if they lose their CCG, against lesser competition but the speculation about TCU and USC is endless

ETA:  Bama at 28?  Only current ranked win is against #24 Miss State


That’s because Georgia and Michigan aren’t playing who they should be. Tennessee and OSU should be their opponents. Those games would be getting attention. Hence the format difference in how cc opponents are determined and the quality of the games.
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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….

Of course not, none of us are.

That's why "I think..."

What do you think?



Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.  Honestly, between the two teams, OSU I think is the better team head to head and makes a better playoff team. I believe TCU has to win to stay in the mix.  USC as a blue blood is eye candy to bowl committees, but they’ve been down for a few years and they need to win to safely make it in.  This, imo, is from many years of seeing how things work in this sport.


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No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.


Sucks the two CFP contenders with the toughest SOS get less margin than those who played weak sauce schedules


TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.


Utah and K State are obviously the toughest teams in CCG's this weekend as well....

Nobody is talking about UGA or UM getting tossed if they lose their CCG, against lesser competition but the speculation about TCU and USC is endless

ETA:  Bama at 28?  Only current ranked win is against #24 Miss State

I think UGA and Michigan are set.  I doubt either will lose and if one does it probably won’t be by much.  That said, the game’s played on the field and not on paper.


The gripe is 2 12-0 teams are "set" and the other 12-0 team is questionable.... the one with the best SOS, and facing the highest ranked opponent who they've already played this season
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Blue bloods > game results


USC is not a "blue blood"?

They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.


Recent success > Current season results too apparently

I get it, but this does seem to factor in.


I think history will look back at 4 team CFP as a shenanigan filled shitshow of committee decisions.


It’s opinion based. That’s another reason the 12 team playoff will be better. At least it has some predetermined criteria to qualify and seed. Not all but some.
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TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.



i have a hard time agreeing that OSU's sos is anywhere near USC's, and neither are close to TCU's





I don’t know exactly how it’s calculated but Sagarin is considered legit. It’s darn sure no Colley Matrix.

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USC is not a "blue blood"?

They are, but they’ve under performed over the past few years.


Recent success > Current season results too apparently

I get it, but this does seem to factor in.


I think history will look back at 4 team CFP as a shenanigan filled shitshow of committee decisions.


It’s opinion based. That’s another reason the 12 team playoff will be better. At least it has some predetermined criteria to qualify and seed. Not all but some.


12 team is going to be way better, at least it should be but these folks could fuck up a sure thing.  Shoulda started with an 8 or 16 team playoff from the git go, but power that be don't like change
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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….

Of course not, none of us are.

That's why "I think..."

What do you think?



Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.  Honestly, between the two teams, OSU I think is the better team head to head and makes a better playoff team. I believe TCU has to win to stay in the mix.  USC as a blue blood is eye candy to bowl committees, but they’ve been down for a few years and they need to win to safely make it in.  This, imo, is from many years of seeing how things work in this sport.


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No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.


Sucks the two CFP contenders with the toughest SOS get less margin than those who played weak sauce schedules


TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.


Utah and K State are obviously the toughest teams in CCG's this weekend as well....

Nobody is talking about UGA or UM getting tossed if they lose their CCG, against lesser competition but the speculation about TCU and USC is endless

ETA:  Bama at 28?  Only current ranked win is against #24 Miss State

I think UGA and Michigan are set.  I doubt either will lose and if one does it probably won’t be by much.  That said, the game’s played on the field and not on paper.


The gripe is 2 12-0 teams are "set" and the other 12-0 team is questionable.... the one with the best SOS, and facing the highest ranked opponent who they've already played this season


Bingo
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Was that the year OSU absolutely destroyed Wisconsin in the Big 10 game?  What killed TCU that season is the other teams were able to play-in to the post season...meaning, they were able to beat good teams to sneak into the CFP.  TCU ended the season with a win against a 9-loss Iowa, whereas Baylor beat a 2-loss (9th ranked at the time) K State.  If we've seen any consistency in the committee over the years, they have very short memories when it comes to wins (and losses)...it's always been what have you done lately.

LOl, what really sucks now if you are a TCU fan, TCU finally has its first realistic chance to get into the CFP...and the only thing potentially holding them back is the Big 12 championship game.  Lose, with a USC win, and Ohio State may slip in the #4 spot.  It's almost a no-win situation.  Their only hope if they lose is to make sure it's close...K State wins by more than two scores, and who knows. Of course, there is always the potential if both TCU and USC lose, TCU would drop no lower than 4th, with Ohio State jumping to 3rd....and that doesn't even consider if Georgia or Michigan drops an egg.  Now that I am going to the game Saturday, there's a very good chance Georgia decides to take the day off...who knows.



I think a one loss TCU gets in ahead of a one loss tOSU.  If USC loses, Buckeyes are back.

But you’re not on the committee….

Of course not, none of us are.

That's why "I think..."

What do you think?



Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.  Honestly, between the two teams, OSU I think is the better team head to head and makes a better playoff team. I believe TCU has to win to stay in the mix.  USC as a blue blood is eye candy to bowl committees, but they’ve been down for a few years and they need to win to safely make it in.  This, imo, is from many years of seeing how things work in this sport.


Yep
No way a 2 loss USC makes it. And a 1 loss TCU is in jeopardy.


Sucks the two CFP contenders with the toughest SOS get less margin than those who played weak sauce schedules


TCUs sos will be a positive if they do lose and the committee gets in that discussion. TCU is at 21 on Sagarin.

USCs sos wasn’t that great at 46.

As a comparison of the 2 teams looking in, OSU is weak at 44. Bama is at 28.

TCU and USC are in control of their own destiny. Neither get bumped with a win. But Utah and K-State are not easy outs.


Utah and K State are obviously the toughest teams in CCG's this weekend as well....

Nobody is talking about UGA or UM getting tossed if they lose their CCG, against lesser competition but the speculation about TCU and USC is endless

ETA:  Bama at 28?  Only current ranked win is against #24 Miss State

I think UGA and Michigan are set.  I doubt either will lose and if one does it probably won’t be by much.  That said, the game’s played on the field and not on paper.


The gripe is 2 12-0 teams are "set" and the other 12-0 team is questionable.... the one with the best SOS, and facing the highest ranked opponent who they've already played this season


Bingo


TCU is gonna be claiming natties in 2014 and 2022 sooner or later
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And for MW folks Minnesota as well.
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Its clown-shoes for any of this to even remotely matter in a CFP selection.

That’s because Georgia and Michigan aren’t playing who they should be. Tennessee and OSU should be their opponents.
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Tennessee had their SEC Championship game back on Nov 5th, and OSU just had theirs last weekend.
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Its clown-shoes for any of this to even remotely matter in a CFP selection.



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Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.


Its clown-shoes for any of this to even remotely matter in a CFP selection.

That’s because Georgia and Michigan aren’t playing who they should be. Tennessee and OSU should be their opponents.


Tennessee had their SEC Championship game back on Nov 5th, and OSU just had theirs last weekend.


Then why is Utah playing USC again? And why are K-State and TCU playing again?

Hint: because they are the best 2 teams in those conferences.
LOL at Purdue being better than OSU and 10-2 Tennessee beat 9-3 LSU.

Perdue and LSU are being “rewarded” due to where they are located geographically.

Why is it so important to send the best teams to the playoffs and not the conference championships?
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Then why is Utah playing USC again? And why are K-State and TCU playing again?

Hint: because they are the best 2 teams in those conferences.
LOL at Purdue being better than OSU and 10-2 Tennessee beat 9-3 LSU.

Perdue and LSU are being “rewarded” due to where they are located geographically.

Why is it so important to send the best teams to the playoffs and not the conference championships?
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Right or wrong, TCU historically doesn’t have a huge fanbase that buys tickets or makes a dent in the TV market. OSU does.


Its clown-shoes for any of this to even remotely matter in a CFP selection.

That’s because Georgia and Michigan aren’t playing who they should be. Tennessee and OSU should be their opponents.


Tennessee had their SEC Championship game back on Nov 5th, and OSU just had theirs last weekend.


Then why is Utah playing USC again? And why are K-State and TCU playing again?

Hint: because they are the best 2 teams in those conferences.
LOL at Purdue being better than OSU and 10-2 Tennessee beat 9-3 LSU.

Perdue and LSU are being “rewarded” due to where they are located geographically.

Why is it so important to send the best teams to the playoffs and not the conference championships?


For Michigan its called a near-bye week
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So would be playing OSU again
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For Michigan its called a near-bye week


So would be playing OSU again


Where'd this confidence come from?  didn't ya'll lose like 120 straight?
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Meth and NIL money
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Meth and NIL money


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For Michigan its called a near-bye week


So would be playing OSU again


2 in a row has really raised your level of confidence.
I’ll be waiting for your melt when Purdue spanks Michigan tomorrow.
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So would be playing OSU again


2 in a row has really raised your level of confidence.
I’ll be waiting for your melt when Purdue spanks Michigan tomorrow.


and that's how OSU gets in
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So would be playing OSU again


2 in a row has really raised your level of confidence.
I’ll be waiting for your melt when Purdue spanks Michigan tomorrow.


and that's how OSU gets in


The internet shitstorm that would create would be epic.
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Harbaugh losing to an unranked opponent on the road as a heavy favorite?

Unpossible

And leave his ass in Indy so he can scrounge for the Colts jobs and be rejected
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For Michigan its called a near-bye week


So would be playing OSU again


2 in a row has really raised your level of confidence.
I’ll be waiting for your melt when Purdue spanks Michigan tomorrow.


and that's how OSU gets in


The internet shitstorm that would create would be epic.


If that's what the committee was attempting annually I wouldn't be surprised
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For Michigan its called a near-bye week


So would be playing OSU again


2 in a row has really raised your level of confidence.
I’ll be waiting for your melt when Purdue spanks Michigan tomorrow.


and that's how OSU gets in


The internet shitstorm that would create would be epic.


If that's what the committee was attempting annually I wouldn't be surprised


We’ve had the wrong 2. It’s going to be TCU, USC, OSU and Bama.
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So would be playing OSU again


2 in a row has really raised your level of confidence.
I’ll be waiting for your melt when Purdue spanks Michigan tomorrow.


and that's how OSU gets in


The internet shitstorm that would create would be epic.


If that's what the committee was attempting annually I wouldn't be surprised


We’ve had the wrong 2. It’s going to be TCU, USC, OSU and Bama.


UGA has lost the CCG and made the playoffs .... like literally a year ago
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It's a shame.

I know Jon Kitna and his wife.  We all went to school together.  Religious people.

I remember when Jalen was born.  What a shame, but fuck CP and anyone associated with it.


Yeah, it makes you wonder where the kid went off the rails to get involved in something like that

Jon make NFL QB money for many years.

Maybe a life of leisure gave a bit too much free time to get hooked on self-destructive elements.

Just speculation but we all have seen that happen before.


Was reading a few different articles about him, sounds like he shared child sex abuse images on Discord.

Does anything good happen on Discord?

I mean, I know some people use it for normal reasons but there is a lot of shit on there that keeps me far, far away.
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Damn, I'd hate to be in Jalen Kitna's shoes

It's a shame.

I know Jon Kitna and his wife.  We all went to school together.  Religious people.

I remember when Jalen was born.  What a shame, but fuck CP and anyone associated with it.


Yeah, it makes you wonder where the kid went off the rails to get involved in something like that

Jon make NFL QB money for many years.

Maybe a life of leisure gave a bit too much free time to get hooked on self-destructive elements.

Just speculation but we all have seen that happen before.


Was reading a few different articles about him, sounds like he shared child sex abuse images on Discord.

Does anything good happen on Discord?

I mean, I know some people use it for normal reasons but there is a lot of shit on there that keeps me far, far away.


Just a version of mIRC such things... chat rooms for nerdy mcnerd nerds
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Then why is Utah playing USC again? And why are K-State and TCU playing again?

Hint: because they are the best 2 teams in those conferences.
LOL at Purdue being better than OSU and 10-2 Tennessee beat 9-3 LSU.

Perdue and LSU are being “rewarded” due to where they are located geographically.

Why is it so important to send the best teams to the playoffs and not the conference championships?
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Utah is not the second place team in the Pac12.

10-2 > 9-3

USC would be ranked higher than TCU if they played and beat UW and Oregon.

This is what happens when you don't have divisions nor have teams play full conference schedules.
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No way in hell.
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It's a shame.

I know Jon Kitna and his wife.  We all went to school together.  Religious people.

I remember when Jalen was born.  What a shame, but fuck CP and anyone associated with it.


Yeah, it makes you wonder where the kid went off the rails to get involved in something like that

Jon make NFL QB money for many years.

Maybe a life of leisure gave a bit too much free time to get hooked on self-destructive elements.

Just speculation but we all have seen that happen before.


Was reading a few different articles about him, sounds like he shared child sex abuse images on Discord.

Does anything good happen on Discord?

I mean, I know some people use it for normal reasons but there is a lot of shit on there that keeps me far, far away.


Just a version of mIRC such things... chat rooms for nerdy mcnerd nerds

Buncha preverts

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10-2 > 9-3

USC would be ranked higher than TCU if they played and beat UW and Oregon.

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Then why is Utah playing USC again? And why are K-State and TCU playing again?

Hint: because they are the best 2 teams in those conferences.
LOL at Purdue being better than OSU and 10-2 Tennessee beat 9-3 LSU.

Perdue and LSU are being “rewarded” due to where they are located geographically.

Why is it so important to send the best teams to the playoffs and not the conference championships?

Utah is not the second place team in the Pac12.

10-2 > 9-3

USC would be ranked higher than TCU if they played and beat UW and Oregon.

This is what happens when you don't have divisions nor have teams play full conference schedules.


While I'm sure they would, bet TCU would still have stronger SOS ... only top 4 team in the top 25 of SOS
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