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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:32:26 AM EST
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Is everyone busy?
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:34:38 AM EST
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I knew there was someone dead outside a pawn shop - didn't know it was the owner who did it. I'm in on this thread.
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:36:58 AM EST
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Can you protect property with deadly force in MN?
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:37:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I knew there was someone dead outside a pawn shop - didn't know it was the owner who did it. I'm in on this thread. Video floating around of cops performing CPR on dead dude out front. Other cops were shooing the angry rabble away saying "there is a man inside with a rifle, get out of here". |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:38:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? I would be surprised if you couldn't, especially in the confines of a dwelling or place of business. Even CA has a pretty liberal (the good kind) version of what is kosher in times of civil unrest and/or to stop arson. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:44:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Video floating around of cops performing CPR on dead dude out front. Other cops were shooing the angry rabble away saying "there is a man inside with a rifle, get out of here". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I knew there was someone dead outside a pawn shop - didn't know it was the owner who did it. I'm in on this thread. Video floating around of cops performing CPR on dead dude out front. Other cops were shooing the angry rabble away saying "there is a man inside with a rifle, get out of here". Oh the irony. 
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:45:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:46:24 AM EST
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Me/shop owner- "what dead guy"?
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:49:29 AM EST
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Just a random question- are the rules governing property security different if the store has an FFL and the looters are likely to steal firearms?
Not sure if that's the case here....just curious. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:53:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:53:33 AM EST
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They need to release the man. if people are taking kids into a burning target to loot, that man has a right to use deadly force, Savagery is running rampant.
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:54:02 AM EST
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Not to derail, but if the shop owner makes it to the other side he’s gonna be jumpy forever
Some of the locals will claim his scalp or try to, he should probably relocate or plan on being anxious forever |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:54:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? Only if you are wearing a mask and shoot the perp at a distance of 6' or moar! |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 9:55:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh the irony. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I knew there was someone dead outside a pawn shop - didn't know it was the owner who did it. I'm in on this thread. Video floating around of cops performing CPR on dead dude out front. Other cops were shooing the angry rabble away saying "there is a man inside with a rifle, get out of here". Oh the irony. Ya, I bet lots of perps are gonna get all sorts of heroic life saving measures now. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:01:58 AM EST
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Which looter did the shop owner shoot... Lootie or Boozie?
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:04:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? LOL if I'm in my shop and a bunch of rich and vibrant Amish come at me, I'm pretty fucking sure I'm not going to be protecting my property. I'm mag dumping on every one of those shitbirds to save my ass. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:04:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which looter did the shop owner shoot... Lootie or Boozie? Lootie |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:27:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be surprised if you couldn't, especially in the confines of a dwelling or place of business. Even CA has a pretty liberal (the good kind) version of what is kosher in times of civil unrest and/or to stop arson. As long as the tools used for defense are approved by the king |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:30:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL if I'm in my shop and a bunch of rich and vibrant Amish come at me, I'm pretty fucking sure I'm not going to be protecting my property. I'm mag dumping on every one of those shitbirds to save my ass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? LOL if I'm in my shop and a bunch of rich and vibrant Amish come at me, I'm pretty fucking sure I'm not going to be protecting my property. I'm mag dumping on every one of those shitbirds to save my ass. Exactly so. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:37:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? As best I can remember the laws- No. You can protect yourself/others if you are not able to flee, if in danger of grave bodily harm or death situation, ie- someone points a gun at you, you feel they are going to shoot and kill you so you can either try to flee, or if unable, then protect yourself and return fire. It's been a few years since I had my CC class which covers this and the laws, so I may be wrong slightly, but I think I am close to having it correct anyways. If I am wrong on this hopefully someone more knowledgeable chimes in. IANAL 
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:39:36 AM EST
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Maybe the owner stayed with the shop for the night?
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:43:24 AM EST
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Were the cops doing CPR with their hands, or their knees?
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:43:52 AM EST
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Wouldn't all the guy need to do is lock the door and be inside and it's breaking and entering an occupied dwelling? Being IN the building being broken into is often a very different level to reach for self-defense. Depends on if there is different treatment between occupied business and home though.
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:49:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? I guess it depends on the state but pawn shops are akin to a bank as they alternate money lenders in the eyes of the state. That is why they were deemed essential in Virginia during the shut-down. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 11:04:17 AM EST
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You Loot, We Shoot!
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Posted: 5/28/2020 11:07:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me/shop owner- "what dead guy"? Hopefully he's smart enough to know that when talking to the police the only word out of his mouth should be "attorney". |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 11:08:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You Loot, We Shoot! I have Zero problems with that. I wish places would put up signs saying so. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 11:09:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe the owner stayed with the shop for the night? |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 11:20:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were the cops doing CPR with their hands, or their knees? oooooooooffff. brutal, brutus. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 11:22:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were the cops doing CPR with their hands, or their knees? oh shit. 
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Posted: 5/28/2020 6:43:38 PM EST
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Bump
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:08:29 PM EST
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:22:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pawn shop owner arrested, charged with murder. https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/john-rieple/ https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rieplebooking2_censored1.jpg?resize=1024,585 That seems unreasonable under the circumstances. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:24:13 PM EST
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This is the most fucked up thing to occur during this event.
This dude is a 100% hero  Attached FileDamn shame he was born white. You can't protect your shit or yourself if you're a whitey 
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:25:39 PM EST
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Is there a go fund me or something for his legal team?
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:28:16 PM EST
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A small business owner in his shop that has been abandoned to his own devices by the police defends his livelihood, his property, and his life during an out-of-control riot that's burning down the city around him (a riot that, by the way, was incited by the police publicly murdering a man).
HE gets arrested on the spot. The murderer with a badge who publicly executed a man on video was free with a small army of cops protecting him for days.  It's fucking bullshit. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:29:46 PM EST
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Last night several business owners called into to the police to report they were firing on looters.
Specifically a couple of brothers using a shotgun to fire in the air.....bet they don't get charged with menacing with a firearm or some other bullshit. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:29:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pawn shop owner arrested, charged with murder. https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/john-rieple/ https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rieplebooking2_censored1.jpg?resize=1024,585 Well that sucks. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:31:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were the cops doing CPR with their hands, or their knees? For dead looters i prefer they not... Police brutality is BS.. But robbing me cause some other asshole is also BS.. Fuck the dead dude. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:31:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You Loot, We Shoot! Truth |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:34:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pawn shop owner arrested, charged with murder. https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/john-rieple/ https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rieplebooking2_censored1.jpg?resize=1024,585 Well that escalated quickly. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:34:36 PM EST
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:36:01 PM EST
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Heard reference to a pawn shop being burned on stream last night.
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:39:06 PM EST
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:53:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A small business owner in his shop that has been abandoned to his own devices by the police defends his livelihood, his property, and his life during an out-of-control riot that's burning down the city around him (a riot that, by the way, was incited by the police publicly murdering a man). HE gets arrested on the spot. The murderer with a badge who publicly executed a man on video was free with a small army of cops protecting him for days. It's fucking bullshit. To be fair... the cops abandoned their police station and let rioters burn it down. And the cops didn’t shoot anybody. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:56:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair... the cops abandoned their police station and let rioters burn it down. And the cos didn’t shoot anybody. To be fair, it wasn't their station they abandoned and let burn, it was the taxpayer's station. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 4:20:07 PM EST
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Is there a go-fund-me for the shop owner yet?
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Posted: 5/29/2020 4:32:44 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They need to release the man. if people are taking kids into a burning target to loot, that man has a right to use deadly force, Savagery is running rampant. What? |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 4:55:58 PM EST
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Posted: 5/29/2020 5:02:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? Perp wasnt bullet proof so I'd guess.? Yes? Legal? Who knows. |
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