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Well, they were corrections officers so I can understand the misunderstanding. They were not police officers. Many police officers dislike/look down upon corrections officers and feel they aren't real peace officers. View Quote lol The police officers who look down on corrections are the same ones scared to come inside the jail/ prison because they would have to take off their weapons. Most I have met seem ok, or at least keep their comments to themselves. <24 years of jail/ prison work |
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if it's not on the tv show "how it's Made" it's not a factory .
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The finest cheesecake bar none is made by Juniors Bakery in Brooklyn, NY. If you have never heard of Juniors than you really don't know cheesecake. https://www.juniorscheesecake.com/ View Quote They used to do really bad on health department inspections, not sure if they've cleaned up their act. |
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wife loves that place. I never really cared for it... everything tastes like it was reheated in the microwave and loaded with salt/ sodium and then left on a counter cool a little before making it to my table. And holy shit, they can't seem to get a decent meal under 1000 calories. View Quote Yeah, when I'm trying to count calories I always head on down to a place called the Cheesecake Factory. Maybe Butter Barn has lighter entrees? |
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Yeah, when I'm trying to count calories I always head on down to a place called the Cheesecake Factory. Maybe Butter Barn has lighter entrees? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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wife loves that place. I never really cared for it... everything tastes like it was reheated in the microwave and loaded with salt/ sodium and then left on a counter cool a little before making it to my table. And holy shit, they can't seem to get a decent meal under 1000 calories. Yeah, when I'm trying to count calories I always head on down to a place called the Cheesecake Factory. Maybe Butter Barn has lighter entrees? |
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They used to do really bad on health department inspections, not sure if they've cleaned up their act. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The finest cheesecake bar none is made by Juniors Bakery in Brooklyn, NY. If you have never heard of Juniors than you really don't know cheesecake. https://www.juniorscheesecake.com/ They used to do really bad on health department inspections, not sure if they've cleaned up their act. Now you've gone and disclosed their secret ingredient. |
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They were corrections officers, not police. I've never seen a corrections officer in uniform carrying a gun outside of a transport. Do these guys carry guns inside a prison all day? They put on gun belts to go out for fatty snacks from some administrative office? View Quote corrections here ARE LE <atleast for the county> they are certified deputies. also not all corrections officers work in jails. |
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I vote with the Cheesecake Factory on this one. They are not on duty (They are taking a lunch break) and should be subject to the same rules and regulations as any other citizen. They should also have to leave any duty weapons and vehicles at work so they can be used by the next shift. That would save a lot of money for the taxpayers.
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corrections here ARE LE <atleast for the county> they are certified deputies. also not all corrections officers work in jails. View Quote Corrections and detention here are not sworn here and I don't think anyone considers them cops. All the ones I know are good dudes who are doing a shitty job they hate because they need to pay the bills and have insurance for the family. A lot of them would rather be cops but they did some petty dumb thing that screws them on the LEO background, or they got hired as a guard during the 2006 - 2014 LE hiring freeze and now they are too committed to their guard career to move to a LEO gig. I've met a couple that aren't too removed from the guys on the other side of cage door. In CA they supposedly make good money but not here. County DOs start at $20/hour and ADoC are even less. |
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They were corrections officers, not police. I've never seen a corrections officer in uniform carrying a gun outside of a transport. Do these guys carry guns inside a prison all day? They put on gun belts to go out for fatty snacks from some administrative office? View Quote Where did you get that from? Anyway, I'm guessing it was Community Corrections officers, which is Washingtonian for Parol Officer, which is LE. They were not in uniform, but were in civilians with marked jackets and badges/guns out. |
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Where did you get that from? Anyway, I'm guessing it was Community Corrections officers, which is Washingtonian for Parol Officer, which is LE. They were not in uniform, but were in civilians with marked jackets and badges/guns out. View Quote In most states probation/Parole are LEO now but not all, varies pretty widely state by state. In NC for instance we have full LEO powers by statute but we never use them by policy, so we are LEO but pretend really hard not to be when there is actual work to be done. Not sure about in that state. I think Florida POs might not even have guns (not sure about that), and on the other end Georgia considers their agency to be full service. However it's a pretty good bet that if they are given firearms at work their agency considers them LEO. I am not aware of any probation departments that have an actual uniform; generally it's just a dress code type of deal. I normally wear the typical mall ninja getup when out doing contacts so most people just assume I'm a cop in an unmarked car or a detective. |
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I never noticed a sign on the Charlotte or Atlanta location's doors. And they never noticed anything on me either.
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Just me or does it legit sound like a isolated incident? Appears a store manager doesn't like scary guns and kicked the officers out. Its not the restaurants policy though.
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Just me or does it legit sound like a isolated incident? Appears a store manager doesn't like scary guns and kicked the officers out. Its not the restaurants policy though. View Quote That is probably true....but as often as these "isolated" incidents happen, you think companies would get ahead of all of these shit storms with a "don't be the ass who makes this mistake" policy. |
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Cops in uniform spemd a lot of time in the Cheesecake Factory? View Quote I don't know about a lot of time, but it only takes one time for an incident to happen. I am fortunate to live somewhere that is fairly pro-police. It seems like in some places cops have to put a lot of effort into all kinds of things to avoid ever looking like or being identified with being a cop. Even wearing a pair of 5.11's off duty makes them wince. In San Antonio, with one of the largest military presences of any U.S. city, everyone is walking around with a short haircut and cargo pants. If I get off duty and I have somewhere to go, I go. My uniform has never been an issue. Class at University. Fine restaurants. Events. Whatever. |
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They were corrections officers, not police. I've never seen a corrections officer in uniform carrying a gun outside of a transport. Do these guys carry guns inside a prison all day? They put on gun belts to go out for fatty snacks from some administrative office? View Quote In some states, corrections can be LE. (in Texas a jailer can be fully sworn, but most are not) |
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I vote with the Cheesecake Factory on this one. They are not on duty (They are taking a lunch break) and should be subject to the same rules and regulations as any other citizen. They should also have to leave any duty weapons and vehicles at work so they can be used by the next shift. That would save a lot of money for the taxpayers. NOTE: SARCASM HERE! View Quote I think that they need to be subject to the same draconian laws as the rest of the citizenry. In NYS, Ca and other ban locations they do need to follow the same laws. Off duty? At Lunch? No gun for you. No ARs for the public? Then, no ARs for the department. These departments advocate and enforce these laws. They need to be subject to them. |
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It's been said before, but concealed means concealed. No see, no problem.
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In most states probation/Parole are LEO now but not all, varies pretty widely state by state. In NC for instance we have full LEO powers by statute but we never use them by policy, so we are LEO but pretend really hard not to be when there is actual work to be done. Not sure about in that state. I think Florida POs might not even have guns (not sure about that), and on the other end Georgia considers their agency to be full service. However it's a pretty good bet that if they are given firearms at work their agency considers them LEO. I am not aware of any probation departments that have an actual uniform; generally it's just a dress code type of deal. I normally wear the typical mall ninja getup when out doing contacts so most people just assume I'm a cop in an unmarked car or a detective. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Where did you get that from? Anyway, I'm guessing it was Community Corrections officers, which is Washingtonian for Parol Officer, which is LE. They were not in uniform, but were in civilians with marked jackets and badges/guns out. In most states probation/Parole are LEO now but not all, varies pretty widely state by state. In NC for instance we have full LEO powers by statute but we never use them by policy, so we are LEO but pretend really hard not to be when there is actual work to be done. Not sure about in that state. I think Florida POs might not even have guns (not sure about that), and on the other end Georgia considers their agency to be full service. However it's a pretty good bet that if they are given firearms at work their agency considers them LEO. I am not aware of any probation departments that have an actual uniform; generally it's just a dress code type of deal. I normally wear the typical mall ninja getup when out doing contacts so most people just assume I'm a cop in an unmarked car or a detective. Robeans was 100% correct Washington Dept of Corrections (DOC) Community Custody Officers (CCOs) are armed, wear jackets with "Department of Corrections" on the back or external soft armor carriers with the same; they have badges, guns and arrest powers. I have never seen a CCO in the field that was not identifiable. Their job is to supervise prisoners released to "Community Custody" ( AKA Parole) and to arrest the ones who need to go back. |
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Eaten there once or twice. It was ok but I Don't get the hype.
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They're a publicly traded company.
CAKE is how you buy into them. Imagine angry shareholders calling out the CEO for stuff like that. |
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Last night I think I may have went a little to far about cops/correction officers tasing people while they eat. A bit to far there.
But the never ended bleating from the snowflakes now. I love the winning, but even skipping facebook, still can't avoid nearly enough folks. That said the OTP/IP NW Atlanta border one if it's still there, did leave a lot to be desired. |
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I'm always amazed with people responding to stories like this which involve legal or authority questions by stating..well in my state they are sworn, LE, etc. Unlike police officers, it is not the same for all 50 states in terms of whether they are considered LE. In some jurisdictions CO's hold virtually none or very limited LE status, while in other places they have broader powers, although generally not as broad as a police officer. Again I'm speaking of state level corrections officers, not county level ones which could be deputy sheriffs with full police powers. In this case the officers worked for the Washington Department of Corrections ("DOC").
So if someone is wondering if DOC Officers in Washington are considered LE, why post the status of a county corrections deputy in Michigan or state corrections officer in Montana? That is like someone asking if tinted windows are legal in Missouri and someone responding by reciting the law in California for tinted windows. This took place in Washington state and involved state corrections officers (Yes I googled some names in the article and they are indeed with the WA State DoC). http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article122267984.html Here is a photo I found of Washington Community Correction Officers, that look like LE to me by the description of what they do and how they are outfitted (including the inked up guy with a 'police' patch on his tac vest.) They seem like what other states would be considered probation/parole. http://www.doc.wa.gov/about/jobs/careers-cco.htm And the regular folks who work in prisons have to qualify with guns, but appear to have only have limited authority peace officer status. However i'm not from Washington state...so maybe someone who specifically knows their LE status can chime in: http://www.doc.wa.gov/about/jobs/careers-co.htm https://youtu.be/f27d-Rlt5r4 If anything OP might want to update the title to accurately reflect the actual title of who got kicked out (corrections officers versus police). |
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From what I saw/read, someone named Will in Corporate backed up the manager as to "no guns, even LEO".
So, unless Will apologizes for his intentional misinformation, it's not a misunderstanding. |
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Was this Cheesecake Factory corporate policy, or shithead SJW from Tacoma policy?
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