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We squabbled a couple of times. The site removed his industry partnership tag that he had through Rainier arms. I think I called him out on posting on m4carbine that he never published bad reviews and that if he got something that was crap he just quietly sent it back and never would publicly say anything. We had other squabbles, he told me to "stay in my lane" and I asked what his military and leo background was and he accused me of trying to Arock him. I think also asked him if he was paid to post, he would mysteriously show up posting about something like DPX knives on knife forums he had never posted on before and post glamour shots of whatever he was "reviewing", I don't think he ever answered me. I might have the order of that stuff wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Him and Aimless got into it, Aimless provided facts so he got butthurt and left. I think it was about being a site sponsor I think I called him out on posting on m4carbine that he never published bad reviews and that if he got something that was crap he just quietly sent it back and never would publicly say anything. We had other squabbles, he told me to "stay in my lane" and I asked what his military and leo background was and he accused me of trying to Arock him. I think also asked him if he was paid to post, he would mysteriously show up posting about something like DPX knives on knife forums he had never posted on before and post glamour shots of whatever he was "reviewing", I don't think he ever answered me. I might have the order of that stuff wrong. You're the most non confrontational staffer on the site IMO. |
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I really don’t think the recent clarification of the CoC is that big of a deal. Most of the banded folks simply self destructed.
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Comrade OP, Please to stop making posts of counter-revolutionary ideas. A government official is on his way to discuss matter with you. Stay where you are. Have a drink. Do not move. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/21413/Stalinade-1058959.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: Why you call us socialist, comrade Nick? Is picture of Che Guevara shirt too big? What I mean by this is, this site is drifting everyday closer to the left. The leftist_trolls continually get a pass. Eventually the only people who will be left on this site will be socialists. That's the path this website is on. I might just be looking a little further down the road than most, but that's where this road ends. I never start threads and I read far more than I post. I posted this because I enjoy this site, I care that's all. |
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To be terribly clear, this is BS. OP has, in the past several days been more than willing to accuse me of being a ROLCON for having a different, far less nationalist, view of conservatism from him here, announced that FDR engineered World War 2 here, and has a profile that quotes Enoch Powell’s infamous (and often regarded as blatantly racist) “Rivers of Blood” speech. I post this not to break the rule against harassing another poster for past posts, but to bring up specifically and relevantly to this thread that OP is very willing to be exceedingly provocative, and is still posting here, unbanned and (so far as I know) unthreatened. I have no idea what brought this on, but given the above, I have no clue how he thinks this place is turning into a socialist hellhole. My $0.02, for what it’s worth. View Quote If yes, what is considered harassment? |
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I can't tell any difference, I'm still entertained and I sure don't see censorship so I'll just post this -
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Following them around and linking to old posts to disrupt. The policy explicitly allows links relevant to the discussion, but crashing someone’s thread to fight with them over old off-topic posts is not allowed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Personally i don't give a fuck what anyone says if they don't have at least 100 EE feedback
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People are getting too worked up.
Long time members are getting the hammer because at a certain point I think they believe their popularity or the prolific nature of their posting habits somehow exempts them from the CoC. But whatever. Someone mentioned something about sharing recipes? |
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Once again...this is just pitiful. If everyone who disagrees with you is a shill, you're in trouble. And so what? I'm supposed to sit down and shut up because I just joined? If this is how you treat people for being new and trying to speak up, it's a bad sign. Fortunately, it isn't. I've seen plenty of friendly people on this site, and know this isn't the majority, but the witch hunts like this bother me solely because they're self-destructive. The pro-liberty forces have plenty arrayed against them without attacking each other as being super secret communist infiltrators. Disagree with me all you want, but the silliness of everyone you disagree with being a Socialist spy is just bizarre. View Quote Context is a thing. Such context also explains the skepticism you might perceive you are encountering. So, if you seem to be meeting skepticism for your willingness to share your strongly held considered opinions, perhaps you might also consider whether some have a history of seeing people show up and try to reshape things in their image with strongly held opinions. Many of whom started out professing solidarity with shared values...and gradually morphed into the opposite. I have no idea who you are, I just noticed you in this thread, but if you want to be persuasive you need to consider your audience. You might also do so with an idea of the history that audience has observed. or not. up to you. Oh yeah, and get yourself an avatar, because most people don't remember names. |
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This isn't the same bunch of ARFCOM assholes who invaded the political board I posted on in 2003 to argue with us about invading Iraq. Those old boys would get in and argue without whining.
I lurked for a decade before I made an account here. Like tonight, it's a nice place to take a break and read a little bit of GD. Or the Cooking forum. Or the old Pit. Call it censorship or whatever you like. This board has lost something over the last few years. It isn't coming back... |
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People of a certain age, middle age in fact, have witnessed every institution in this country be infiltrated and turned 180 degrees or destroyed by those super secret infiltrators. They do in fact exist, and have done incalculable damage to every aspect of this country/society/culture. Context is a thing. Such context also explains the skepticism you might perceive you are encountering. So, if you seem to be meeting skepticism for your willingness to share your strongly held considered opinions, perhaps you might also consider whether some have a history of seeing people show up and try to reshape things in their image with strongly held opinions. Many of whom started out professing solidarity with shared values...and gradually morphed into the opposite. I have no idea who you are, I just noticed you in this thread, but if you want to be persuasive you need to consider your audience. You might also do so with an idea of the history that audience has observed. or not. up to you. Oh yeah, and get yourself an avatar, because most people don't remember names. View Quote And, look, the problem is that you want someone to know the context you see. I know what I know, and the middle-aged conservatives I know from home, work, and church see things differently. They’re as conservative as any, but they don’t see infiltrators. Societal changes, degradation in standards, sure, but not infiltration. But most of them relate societal changes to a movement away from God, Church, and family, and chalk changes people have to their move away from those things. But I ask you...how do you convince people sure everyone who disagrees with them is an infiltrator that you aren’t one? They think mods who have been with the site for years are communist infiltrators. How in heaven’s name do you reason with that? I’m not trying to convince them of anything, at this point. I am trying to point out to others the silliness of some of their points, but once the RolCon and Socialist brainwashed by liberal media cries rang out, I knew there wasn’t much I could do to change their minds. |
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Once again...this is just pitiful. If everyone who disagrees with you is a shill, you’re in trouble. And so what? I’m supposed to sit down and shut up because I just joined? If this is how you treat people for being new and trying to speak up, it’s a bad sign. Fortunately, it isn’t. I’ve seen plenty of friendly people on this site, and know this isn’t the majority, but the witch hunts like this bother me solely because they’re self-destructive. The pro-liberty forces have plenty arrayed against them without attacking each other as being super secret communist infiltrators. Disagree with me all you want, but the silliness of everyone you disagree with being a Socialist spy is just bizarre. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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8 pages? Really? Where is the penguin? He should be locking this shit down!
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I might get an avatar someday. I just haven’t decided what fits. And, look, the problem is that you want someone to know the context you see. I know what I know, and the middle-aged conservatives I know from home, work, and church see things differently. They’re as conservative as any, but they don’t see infiltrators. Societal changes, degradation in standards, sure, but not infiltration. But most of them relate societal changes to a movement away from God, Church, and family, and chalk changes people have to their move away from those things. But I ask you...how do you convince people sure everyone who disagrees with them is an infiltrator that you aren’t one? They think mods who have been with the site for years are communist infiltrators. How in heaven’s name do you reason with that? I’m not trying to convince them of anything, at this point. I am trying to point out to others the silliness of some of their points, but once the RolCon and Socialist brainwashed by liberal media cries rang out, I knew there wasn’t much I could do to change their minds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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People of a certain age, middle age in fact, have witnessed every institution in this country be infiltrated and turned 180 degrees or destroyed by those super secret infiltrators. They do in fact exist, and have done incalculable damage to every aspect of this country/society/culture. Context is a thing. Such context also explains the skepticism you might perceive you are encountering. So, if you seem to be meeting skepticism for your willingness to share your strongly held considered opinions, perhaps you might also consider whether some have a history of seeing people show up and try to reshape things in their image with strongly held opinions. Many of whom started out professing solidarity with shared values...and gradually morphed into the opposite. I have no idea who you are, I just noticed you in this thread, but if you want to be persuasive you need to consider your audience. You might also do so with an idea of the history that audience has observed. or not. up to you. Oh yeah, and get yourself an avatar, because most people don't remember names. And, look, the problem is that you want someone to know the context you see. I know what I know, and the middle-aged conservatives I know from home, work, and church see things differently. They’re as conservative as any, but they don’t see infiltrators. Societal changes, degradation in standards, sure, but not infiltration. But most of them relate societal changes to a movement away from God, Church, and family, and chalk changes people have to their move away from those things. But I ask you...how do you convince people sure everyone who disagrees with them is an infiltrator that you aren’t one? They think mods who have been with the site for years are communist infiltrators. How in heaven’s name do you reason with that? I’m not trying to convince them of anything, at this point. I am trying to point out to others the silliness of some of their points, but once the RolCon and Socialist brainwashed by liberal media cries rang out, I knew there wasn’t much I could do to change their minds. |
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This post is getting a lot of ridicule but I tend to agree with it. The keyword is “traditionally”, not “currently”. There’s been an awful lot of censorship over the years in America because something was seen to be “sinful” or “indecent” by the “decent, god fearing, moral majority”(conservatives). Edgy art, rude language, drug use, nudity or even just suggestive behavior, etc. The radical censorship efforts of the American left is a relatively new thing, at least on the mainstream scale that it’s currently happening on. Go back a few decades and take a look at what kind of things were being censored in American culture, though. I’m not sticking up for the left in any way, shape, or form. Their efforts at silencing any and all dissent are inexcusable. But they’re not the only wannabe censors at work in America. The sad truth is that the majority of Americans of all political stripes really don’t understand or like the First Amendment and would gleefully silence anyone that they disagree with if given the opportunity. The left is just having better luck with it lately. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Traditionally, conservatives are the type who invoke censorship, not progressives. There’s been an awful lot of censorship over the years in America because something was seen to be “sinful” or “indecent” by the “decent, god fearing, moral majority”(conservatives). Edgy art, rude language, drug use, nudity or even just suggestive behavior, etc. The radical censorship efforts of the American left is a relatively new thing, at least on the mainstream scale that it’s currently happening on. Go back a few decades and take a look at what kind of things were being censored in American culture, though. I’m not sticking up for the left in any way, shape, or form. Their efforts at silencing any and all dissent are inexcusable. But they’re not the only wannabe censors at work in America. The sad truth is that the majority of Americans of all political stripes really don’t understand or like the First Amendment and would gleefully silence anyone that they disagree with if given the opportunity. The left is just having better luck with it lately. One only needs to look at religious conservatives and the history of pornography for examples. |
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Quoted: Wow this thread took on a life it’s own while I was busy. What I mean by this is, this site is drifting everyday closer to the left. The leftist_trolls continually get a pass. Eventually the only people who will be left on this site will be socialists. That’s the path this website is on. I might just be looking a little further down the road than most, but that’s where this road ends. I never start threads and I read far more than I post. I posted this because I enjoy this site, I care that’s all. View Quote |
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People of a certain age, middle age in fact, have witnessed every institution in this country be infiltrated and turned 180 degrees or destroyed by those super secret infiltrators. They do in fact exist, and have done incalculable damage to every aspect of this country/society/culture. Context is a thing. Such context also explains the skepticism you might perceive you are encountering. So, if you seem to be meeting skepticism for your willingness to share your strongly held considered opinions, perhaps you might also consider whether some have a history of seeing people show up and try to reshape things in their image with strongly held opinions. Many of whom started out professing solidarity with shared values...and gradually morphed into the opposite. I have no idea who you are, I just noticed you in this thread, but if you want to be persuasive you need to consider your audience. You might also do so with an idea of the history that audience has observed. or not. up to you. Oh yeah, and get yourself an avatar, because most people don't remember names. And, look, the problem is that you want someone to know the context you see. I know what I know, and the middle-aged conservatives I know from home, work, and church see things differently. They’re as conservative as any, but they don’t see infiltrators. Societal changes, degradation in standards, sure, but not infiltration. But most of them relate societal changes to a movement away from God, Church, and family, and chalk changes people have to their move away from those things. But I ask you...how do you convince people sure everyone who disagrees with them is an infiltrator that you aren’t one? They think mods who have been with the site for years are communist infiltrators. How in heaven’s name do you reason with that? I’m not trying to convince them of anything, at this point. I am trying to point out to others the silliness of some of their points, but once the RolCon and Socialist brainwashed by liberal media cries rang out, I knew there wasn’t much I could do to change their minds. |
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I might get an avatar someday. I just haven't decided what fits. And, look, the problem is that you want someone to know the context you see. I know what I know, and the middle-aged conservatives I know from home, work, and church see things differently. They're as conservative as any, but they don't see infiltrators. Societal changes, degradation in standards, sure, but not infiltration. But most of them relate societal changes to a movement away from God, Church, and family, and chalk changes people have to their move away from those things. But I ask you...how do you convince people sure everyone who disagrees with them is an infiltrator that you aren't one? They think mods who have been with the site for years are communist infiltrators. How in heaven's name do you reason with that? I'm not trying to convince them of anything, at this point. I am trying to point out to others the silliness of some of their points, but once the RolCon and Socialist brainwashed by liberal media cries rang out, I knew there wasn't much I could do to change their minds. View Quote That said, some people decide they're going to change their mind...but haven't determined what they're going to change it to. You can influence those kind of people. But they gotta get to the point they're willing to be influenced on their own. If there was an easy answer to your question, dealing with people would be easy. (It isn't). When I do engage in discourse in GD, I do so not to convince or persuade the person I may be going back and forth with. It is to hopefully influence the person who may be reading the discussion (but not necessarily participating in it) and has gotten themselves to the point where they are ready to change their mind, but haven't committed to what they're changing it to. Your most effective outcomes in terms of persuasion may not necessarily be the person you're trading rhetoric with. |
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You effectively shut down all future conversation by using the "revisionist" card, i.e. any example from history you simply have to claim it was revised and the truth was hidden to support an agenda.
Its the ultimate in tin-foil hat conspiracy theory bullshit. This is not me surrendering. This is me not engaging a crack pot conspiracy nut any further. Good day sir! |
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@DK-Prof Done! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/199178/20190819_205716-1060600.jpg And the best part is that no one can even tell View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: I never claimed there was a right-wing socialist government. Go back and read what I posted. There are many examples of right-wing (status quo) programs with a socialist (state owned means of production) origin or goal. I'm pretty sure if you go to google and type in "right wing socialism" a bunch of things will pop up. I'm not going to do your research for you. View Quote |
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Thanks for taking the time to post this, I'm glad someone gets it. One only needs to look at religious conservatives and the history of pornography for examples. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Traditionally, conservatives are the type who invoke censorship, not progressives. There’s been an awful lot of censorship over the years in America because something was seen to be “sinful” or “indecent” by the “decent, god fearing, moral majority”(conservatives). Edgy art, rude language, drug use, nudity or even just suggestive behavior, etc. The radical censorship efforts of the American left is a relatively new thing, at least on the mainstream scale that it’s currently happening on. Go back a few decades and take a look at what kind of things were being censored in American culture, though. I’m not sticking up for the left in any way, shape, or form. Their efforts at silencing any and all dissent are inexcusable. But they’re not the only wannabe censors at work in America. The sad truth is that the majority of Americans of all political stripes really don’t understand or like the First Amendment and would gleefully silence anyone that they disagree with if given the opportunity. The left is just having better luck with it lately. One only needs to look at religious conservatives and the history of pornography for examples. |
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Quoted: Seriously though, right wing traditionally has meant more individualized ideologies. The idea that one can take care of ones self and belongings as long as it does not interfere with anothers rights. Hence why they are usually always anti big government, who needs and thrives off dependency. So how can you have those right wing ideologies coincide with government taking care of all manners of someones life? And hes not wrong saying revisionist history. Nazis are always protrayed now in schools and media as right wing nationalist who fought the left wing communists Soviets. The truth is they were both left wingers doing what left wingers do best. Trample people in the name of bigger government. Id say that the people of Papua New Guinea were some of the biggest right wingers of that whole war haha View Quote Socialism, while generally a left-wing ideology, is not a political position. Socialism is simply an economic system which is generally favored by those on the left. But is it not exclusive. The Nazis, since you bring it up, were right-wing (strong national policy, bad foreign policy, traditionalists, etc.), but had many social policies. For example, the Nazis provided Jewish slave labor to various companies for free, thus supporting capitalist companies (like BMW) with free slave labor. The Nazi government, therefore, participated in the means of production, which is socialist in nature. Also, we can look at the German Labor Front for another example of how the right-wing Nazi party participated in socialism. |
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The same google that was found out to alter millions of potential votes? This isnt the tin foil talking. I recently got out of college and in my short life, i can see history is being drastically rewritten by the left Edit: and the "right" for what its worth. Both parties are 2 sides of the same coin and can suck my a$$ View Quote |
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