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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:05:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: is a base 4 dr with no options too basic and handicapped or is it still capable? what are must have options to get? i imagine there will be aftermarket parts , so you can just get all the options you want later. There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. That 2.7 is a tried and true motor. Most of the squawks has been worked out of it. Plus, it’ll be a screamer. Mo Power, Mo bettuh.  . For $2000 fBucks, it’s not even a question.
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:06:59 PM EDT
[#2]
I priced one out like I'd buy.
$30.500 Base model, manual trans, smaller engine only option was roof sound insulation. A couple of things that I'm not too keen on, Manual trans has about 2 too many gears. I have a car with manual trans now (6 speed) I only use 5 at the most as is. Turbo engine, more complications than I need or want, KISS applies. 4300lbs, thats serious pig territory for a 2 door 100 inch wheel base vehicle. I'm amazed at how heavy modern vehicles are compared to older stuff, especially when you consider all the light weight materials used. Bronco has Alum heads and block yet it weighs almost 1000 lbs more than larger vehicles with all iron blocks, heads built decades ago. wish I could delete some of the stuff on it and save several grand but its what new cars have become. I'll look into it again after 2 or 3 years after they have been out there for a while, not buying 1st year production stuff. My current ride ain't gonna last forever. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:08:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: is a base 4 dr with no options too basic and handicapped or is it still capable? what are must have options to get? i imagine there will be aftermarket parts , so you can just get all the options you want later. There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. looks like you are required to get the samsquatch if you want the 4.27 locking differential |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:10:32 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I don't think anyone's putting 33s on that little guy  Ghetto guys putting 33s on a Chrysler... |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:10:55 PM EDT
[#5]
My worst fears have been confirmed
I am too poor to buy a Bronco  For now
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:11:55 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: looks like you are required to get the samsquatch if you want the 4.27 locking differential Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: is a base 4 dr with no options too basic and handicapped or is it still capable? what are must have options to get? i imagine there will be aftermarket parts , so you can just get all the options you want later. There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. looks like you are required to get the samsquatch if you want the 4.27 locking differential I think that's only for the Base, all the others seem to be able to equip a rear locker without the Squatch. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:13:08 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. The diff is a key issue for me. No way would I buy a 4x4 with open diffs either. However, since I don't wheel hard (mall crawler/light trailer once in a blue moon) I prefer LSD over lockers. Best of both worlds would like the 2006 (TJ) Rubicons, which had an LSD that could be locked. And no, traction control nanny crap is not a good substitute for a physical LSD IMO. At least give me LSD in the rear and a locker up front as an option. I could work with that. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:56:01 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: looks like you are required to get the samsquatch if you want the 4.27 locking differential Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: is a base 4 dr with no options too basic and handicapped or is it still capable? what are must have options to get? i imagine there will be aftermarket parts , so you can just get all the options you want later. There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. looks like you are required to get the samsquatch if you want the 4.27 locking differential Samsquanch comes with 4.7 gearing. The 4.27 is an in-betweener. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:57:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Samsquanch comes with 4.7 gearing. The 4.27 is an in-betweener. Would you happen to know ring gear size on the front? |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 3:58:44 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you compare MSRP to MSRP, I'm pretty sure that's something like a F-150 STX. Still cool though. I hope they sell well. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 4:11:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Would you happen to know ring gear size on the front? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Samsquanch comes with 4.7 gearing. The 4.27 is an in-betweener. Would you happen to know ring gear size on the front? No idea. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 4:12:15 PM EDT
[#12]
I hope they build a million of them so I can get a lightly used one in a few years and thrash the hell out of it.
Base + Sasquatch + 2.7L looks perfect to me. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 4:14:26 PM EDT
[#13]
They look cool but Im gonna need some test data before I pull the trigger on one.
I want to see one with 40k miles on it. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 4:45:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Samsquanch comes with 4.7 gearing. The 4.27 is an in-betweener. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: is a base 4 dr with no options too basic and handicapped or is it still capable? what are must have options to get? i imagine there will be aftermarket parts , so you can just get all the options you want later. There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. looks like you are required to get the samsquatch if you want the 4.27 locking differential Samsquanch comes with 4.7 gearing. The 4.27 is an in-betweener. Am I misunderstanding their site, or is it not possible to get a base model with a manual transmission and locking diff? Because that seems retarded. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:02:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I misunderstanding their site, or is it not possible to get a base model with a manual transmission and locking diff? Because that seems retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: is a base 4 dr with no options too basic and handicapped or is it still capable? what are must have options to get? i imagine there will be aftermarket parts , so you can just get all the options you want later. There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. looks like you are required to get the samsquatch if you want the 4.27 locking differential Samsquanch comes with 4.7 gearing. The 4.27 is an in-betweener. Am I misunderstanding their site, or is it not possible to get a base model with a manual transmission and locking diff? Because that seems retarded. No locker or Sasquatch with manual 
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:04:13 PM EDT
[#16]
I'm up to about $55,000 to get close t what I want...
Looks like I will be keeping the Wrangler a bit longer. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:04:34 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No locker or Sasquatch with manual 
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:05:12 PM EDT
[#18]
Needs moar 5.0 MasterRace option.
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:08:57 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs moar 5.0 MasterRace option. Said nobody who owns a current-gen 5-liter. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:12:20 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you compare MSRP to MSRP, I'm pretty sure that's something like a F-150 STX. 2019 STX owner, bought new. Can confirm. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:13:15 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just played around with it, the Wildtrak with a few desirable options MSRP came up to $54K. That is too much for what it is IMO. Good price for a LR Defender. TC |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:16:28 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There should be a Dennis Dillon type deal soon. $7-9K off MSRP like they do with Jeeps and everything else. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Go through Granger for a $1000 off MSRP There should be a Dennis Dillon type deal soon. $7-9K off MSRP like they do with Jeeps and everything else. Book marked Dennis Dillon...wife just said "Road Trip"...  |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:20:40 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No locker or Sasquatch with manual Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: is a base 4 dr with no options too basic and handicapped or is it still capable? what are must have options to get? i imagine there will be aftermarket parts , so you can just get all the options you want later. There's no way I'd buy a 4x4 with open diffs. You need some form of locker or LSD on the rear. For the Bronco, the 4.27 locking rear diff is a $795 option. If you're not going to go full Samsquanch, at least get that. The other thing I'd say is, if you plan to get bigger wheels and tires and other stuff that comes with Samsquanch, it'll just be cheaper and easier to get the Samsquanch. I also don't really view the 2.7 as an option you want to skip, and it's not all about the power. The 2.3 is an aluminum block inline 4 with direct injection only. The 2.7 in a compacted graphite iron block V6 with dual injection. That upgrade is ABSOLUTELY worth the money. looks like you are required to get the samsquatch if you want the 4.27 locking differential Samsquanch comes with 4.7 gearing. The 4.27 is an in-betweener. Am I misunderstanding their site, or is it not possible to get a base model with a manual transmission and locking diff? Because that seems retarded. No locker or Sasquatch with manual About a week ago they announced you could get Sasquatch with manual transmission in the smaller engine configuration. Speculated on bronco6g that this info has not yet made it into the Build & Price system yet?... That should give you the 4.27 locking diff right? |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:20:44 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No idea. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Samsquanch comes with 4.7 gearing. The 4.27 is an in-betweener. Would you happen to know ring gear size on the front? No idea. According to the interwebs the name of the differential is the ring gear size in mm. So the M190 has a ~7.5" ring gear, the M210 has a ~8.25" ring gear, and the M220 has a 8.66 ring gear. ETA: The more I think about it the more pissed off I get that Race Red isn't available on the Base 
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:22:04 PM EDT
[#25]
Looks like it has a chromosome issue.
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:24:40 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does it, though? The Base Bronco and the Rubicon both come with cloth seats, power windows/mirrors, AC, cruise control, keyless entry with push-button start, and big touch-screen radios with Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The flip side, though, is that the Rubicon isn't a base model vehicle. It has a lot of toys the base model Bronco won't. Does it, though? The Base Bronco and the Rubicon both come with cloth seats, power windows/mirrors, AC, cruise control, keyless entry with push-button start, and big touch-screen radios with Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. That is really all I want in a vehicle, the STX package is about perfect for me. Only thing we had Ford add was remote start and the dealer only charged 100 bucks. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:27:23 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to the interwebs the name of the differential is the ring gear size in mm. So the M190 has a ~7.5" ring gear, the M210 has a ~8.25" ring gear, and the M220 has a 8.66 ring gear. ETA: The more I think about it the more pissed off I get that Race Red isn't available on the Base Which one is on the new Bronco? |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:28:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which one is on the new Bronco? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: According to the interwebs the name of the differential is the ring gear size in mm. So the M190 has a ~7.5" ring gear, the M210 has a ~8.25" ring gear, and the M220 has a 8.66 ring gear. ETA: The more I think about it the more pissed off I get that Race Red isn't available on the Base Which one is on the new Bronco? If I'm reading it right the Non-Squatch has the M190 front, Squatch has the M210 front, and they both have the M220 rear. The Rubicon also has the M210/M220 combo, although the front is a solid-axle version. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:32:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I'm reading it right the Non-Squatch has the M190 front, Squatch has the M210 front, and they both have the M220 rear. The Rubicon also has the M210/M220 combo, although the front is a solid-axle version. Interesting. Same as Rubicon axles. Not something I would trust 37s with. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:35:33 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. Same as Rubicon axles. Not something I would trust 37s with. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I'm reading it right the Non-Squatch has the M190 front, Squatch has the M210 front, and they both have the M220 rear. The Rubicon also has the M210/M220 combo, although the front is a solid-axle version. Interesting. Same as Rubicon axles. Not something I would trust 37s with. I wonder if they'll beef the axles up on the Warthog version, it'll have a little more tire and a lot more power. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:37:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if they'll beef the axles up on the Warthog version, it'll have a little more tire and a lot more power. 10" would be the cats ass. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:38:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Said nobody who owns a current-gen 5-liter. LoL. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:41:07 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 10" would be the cats ass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder if they'll beef the axles up on the Warthog version, it'll have a little more tire and a lot more power. 10" would be the cats ass. Raptor gears aren't even that big, 8.8" front 9.75" rear. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:05:44 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Raptor gears aren't even that big, 8.8" front 9.75" rear. They always do the minimum. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:41:43 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm up to about $55,000 to get close t what I want... Looks like I will be keeping the Wrangler a bit longer.  There's a 450hp SRT 6.4L V8 Wrangler coming 
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:47:49 PM EDT
[#36]
We need a Trump administration to grasp the EPA by the husk and shake it up until it gives us Tier None turbo diesels Made In America for American made vehicles...
Drop those in Ford Broncos and Fiat Wranglers and Light Trucks |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:48:59 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We need a Trump administration to grasp the EPA by the husk and shake it up until it gives us Tier None turbo diesels Made In America for American made vehicles... Drop those in Ford Broncos and Fiat Wranglers and Light Trucks If we're going that far we might as well make them two-strokes 
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:50:19 PM EDT
[#38]
I like jeep a ton, very fun vehicles.
That said I've got to give it to Ford with this bronco. They went all out and it seemed like they Iistened. I own a k5 blazer and the new blazer was a huge disappointment. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:53:50 PM EDT
[#39]
They aren't going to be able to make enough of those.
I hope they bring them here, they will sell like mad. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:55:36 PM EDT
[#40]
am i missing something? I can't customize anything other than the stock options no matter what trim level
ETA: I have no options for changing engine or adding the sasquatch(sp?) package Also some of their options are dumb, can't get the interior color I want with the upgraded sound system? lol why make so many forced trade offs |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:58:35 PM EDT
[#41]
4 door Bronco? Dafuq?
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:01:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2021-Jeep-Wrangler-V8-2.jpg There's a 450hp SRT 6.4L V8 Wrangler coming End of 2021. I'll be grabbing a SRT Gladiator. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:01:34 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If we're going that far we might as well make them two-strokes Oh mama
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:02:53 PM EDT
[#44]
I thought I read it would be available with front lockers? Is that not true? I can't find a package that adds that..
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:03:07 PM EDT
[#45]
Doing a 4 door Black Diamond with V6/auto, mid, hard top and Sasquatch in Cactus Gray. It looks like itll be around $46k from Stephens Auto at -1000 invoice and invoice pricing on options.
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:05:25 PM EDT
[#46]
I have to stand in line while a 60 sec countdown happens to get to their build page.
Pass. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:05:34 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought I read it would be available with front lockers? Is that not true? I can't find a package that adds that.. Sasquatch package adds the lockers, tires, and some other goodies. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:06:32 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good price for a LR Defender. TC Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just played around with it, the Wildtrak with a few desirable options MSRP came up to $54K. That is too much for what it is IMO. Good price for a LR Defender. TC yeah, Defender is a piece of fucking garbage too. One Youtuber got like 150 miles out of his before it was throwing engine codes after he got it back the rear camera quit working.junk |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:09:13 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. That's nicely appointed F150 territory there. Don't worry I bet they won't sell below MSRP for the first 18 months |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 7:09:34 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have to stand in line while a 60 sec countdown happens to get to their build page. Pass. You must be using some fucky link. Ive gone straight through multiple times today on mobile and pc without issue |
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