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Posted: 12/12/2019 1:49:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two opposing cheeks on the same ass. Working together to shit on America. |
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Posted: 12/12/2019 1:54:22 PM EST
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What's legal is bad enough, but it seems that in Trump's case, and in many others, even the limited legal restrictions on surveillance are being ignored. That's not surprising, but takes some of the edge off of claims of hypocrisy.
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Posted: 12/12/2019 1:56:25 PM EST
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Can anybody show me a single domestic terror attack this unconstitutional golem has prevented? I know I can cite at least one attack that was handed to the FBI on a silver platter by the Russians and they still did nothing to stop the Boston Marathon Bombers. As long as humans are "in the loop" the information will be abused. Look at Barack H Obama, he got his own start in IL politics by having access to sealed family court records. Now an Executive level Counter-Intelligence Investigation of the opposing party's Presidential Candidate has been revealed, Counter-Intelligence operations of that importance cannot happen without POTUS consent or at least knowing about. These power-hungry politicians have proven Man is incapable of the discipline and restraint necessary to wield access to so much illegal and unconstitutional information. The DDR Stasi was nothing compared to this, they couldn't follow EVERY East German, could read every single piece of mail in real time, couldn't monitor every single phonecall and I'd bet record all cellular and fiberoptic voice transmissions. There are still means with due process with which they can look at the really bad guys, the government needs to be kept on a short leash, preferably with a choker or pinch collar that easily brings them to heel. |
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Posted: 12/12/2019 2:08:39 PM EST
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Either the Republicans and the Democrats are two sides of the same coin, or they are the dumbest naïve mother fuckers to believe the government can be trusted to guard our rights. Take your pick! Who with one bit of intelligence didn't see this happening? It's the ruling class against the citizenry period. |
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Posted: 12/12/2019 2:22:19 PM EST
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Sorry homie, OP is right about this. There are scant few, if any, conservatives "like us" in the halls of government. The Purple Party reigns supreme. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP’s screename seems more fitting everyday. There are scant few, if any, conservatives "like us" in the halls of government. The Purple Party reigns supreme. Don't think Trump has the right to bitch about it? Fine. The 62,000,000 American citizens that voted for him do, though. |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 8:06:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get it and I don't like it, either. However, even though the shitty laws give both political parties equal opportunity, the outcomes are completely different. Don't think Trump has the right to bitch about it? Fine. The 62,000,000 American citizens that voted for him do, though. |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 8:36:27 AM EST
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The 62 million that voted for him are still getting fucked good and hard by the GOP and the Democrats. Both sides are spit roasting the American Public. 
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Posted: 12/13/2019 8:41:46 AM EST
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Republicans Condemn FBI's Use of Surveillance Powers They Long Supported One by one, Republican senators expressed outrage Wednesday that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had committed errors in how it sought and obtained surveillance on a former Trump campaign adviser, describing the findings contained in a new inspector general report as evidence of alarming privacy violations that could be wielded against any American.
The concerns echoed those made by civil liberties advocates for decades. But they came this time from self-described national security hawks who have long voted to renew and expand U.S. surveillance powers In an impassioned opening statement, Sen. Lindsey Graham, the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, railed against what he described as a loose system of oversight at the FBI that allowed investigators to push forward with a counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Trump's 2016 presidential campaign. He said the FBI "defrauded" the secretive FISA court with its applications for surveillance on the former campaign adviser, Carter Page, and compared the FBI's actions to abuses discovered after Watergate.
"It's as if J. Edgar Hoover came back to life," Sen. Graham said, invoking the name of the FBI's long-tenured previous director who oversaw spying on civil rights activists, including Martin Luther King Jr. Acknowledging that he proudly considered himself a "pretty hawkish guy," Mr. Graham said he would hate to rein in the FISA process given foreign security threats to the U.S. "But after your report, I have serious concerns about whether the FISA court can continue unless there's fundamental reform," Mr. Graham said. Also referring to himself as a "national security hawk," Sen. Ben Sasse (R., Neb.), said he had previously ignored warnings about the possibility that surveillance powers could be abused, believing "that stuff like this just couldn't possibly happen at the FBI and Department of Justice."
Both Sens. Graham and Sasse have repeatedly voted to renew and in some cases widen existing surveillance authorities, including those held by the FBI. President Trump, too, has pushed to maintain the intelligence community's spying capabilities, despite his repeated lacerations of those agencies. Earlier this year, for example, the Trump White House moved to permanently preserve a National Security Agency surveillance program that collects U.S. call metadata even though it has been shut down because of repeated compliance issuesspurning the advice of some senior intelligence officials who said it no longer held national security value. ....
Previous administrations, including that of Democrat Barack Obama, have also vigorously fought efforts to curtail or make more transparent FISA proceedings. 
Attorney General William Barr, too, has said he wants to consider changes to the FISA process in the wake of Mr. Horowitz's report, though he has shown deference to surveillance programs in the past.
During his last stint as attorney general in the early 1990s, Mr. Barr signed off on a secret surveillance program that allowed the Drug Enforcement Administration to collect in bulk records of Americans' international calls. That program relied on a loose statutory interpretation of the word "relevant" that later undergirded the NSA's own bulk phone surveillance program that was revealed by former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden in 2013. https://theamericancitadel.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/rd4.jpg?w=638 http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8e5074454fcc.jpg The Republicans and the Democrats are the opposite sides of the same coin. GOVERNMENT. Both create laws, agencies, and systems that are used to crush the plebeian serfs that are the commoners. Both play the game of being on different sides, when in reality behind closed doors they all fuck the same whore, drink the same liquor, and do a line of coke off the other whore's ass. They all laugh while fleecing the public and taking turns being in power.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 8:51:19 AM EST
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How about Trumps hypocrisy with supporting NSA spying powers all in the name of security, for the children, while complaining about the same being used against him during the 2016 election. The GOP under Trump is completely complacent here except for Rand Paul and very few others. Quote HistoryQuoted:
How about Trumps hypocrisy with supporting NSA spying powers all in the name of security, for the children, while complaining about the same being used against him during the 2016 election. The GOP under Trump is completely complacent here except for Rand Paul and very few others. "I will filibuster and do whatever to stop that."Paul said he would vote to reauthorize Section 702, however, if there are protections in place for Americans' private information Trump also trashed the bill, then supported it then a few hours later Thanks to Bullet_Sponge for making us aware of those tweets |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:02:46 AM EST
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Can anybody show me a single domestic terror attack this unconstitutional golem has prevented? 
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:08:08 AM EST
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:10:58 AM EST
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Here is one better - they are not only two sides of the same coin.
BOTH the Repubs and Democrats are OWNED by the same globalist scumbags and corporations. I am not just talking about the obvious ones like Soros, Bloomberg but people who stay out of the limelight like the Koch brothers, that guy Adelson, the Bush family, the Kennedys, Goldman Sachs and a ton of others that most of us have never heard their name. They are all in it together to make themselves richer. Fundamentally neither one gives a shit about the citizens of this country which is why neither one does jack shit about the illegal immigration, the refugee bullshit and lots of other things. The reality is that the general public is the enemy to them and might interfere with their money making schemes. |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:12:56 AM EST
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We are using the wrong terms..... People get too wrapped up in R vs D. It is not that. They are all PROGRESSIVES. A progressive can be any party and likely could describe 100% of dems at the federal level and 98% of Republicans at the federal level. I do believe it gets better for Republicans at the state and local levels, somewhat anyway. We live under a nanny police state. Freedom as we knew it is dead. The ideals this country was founded under are dead. In the end, people are just really nefarious and power hungry fucks. We need a mass die off like an asteroid or a plague to even have a remote chance for freedom to return. The correct word is STATISTS "favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom." |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:15:36 AM EST
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Sorry but it’s a well known fact that conservatives don’t meme or recognize hypocrisy in their own party. But thanks for playing. |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:18:59 AM EST
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And yet, it's still the Liberals that are the Violent ones that need to be surveilled.
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:29:45 AM EST
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I don’t get the hate going towards Miami. I’m new and every post I read from the dude is nothing but facts. |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:40:37 AM EST
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I'm here pointing out that the Republicans supported the usurpation of civil liberties too and you think that is being a Jack Booted Thug? LOL *Also works for the surveillance state* 
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:43:11 AM EST
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*Rails against the surveillance state* *Also works for the surveillance state* Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm here pointing out that the Republicans supported the usurpation of civil liberties too and you think that is being a Jack Booted Thug? LOL *Also works for the surveillance state*
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:46:21 AM EST
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Gotta make a living somehow. Also that sweet dental plan. Look at the work they do.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:51:47 AM EST
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The Stasi, KGB, and DGI would be furiously and fanatically masturbating at the speed to light to where their dicks would combust into flames at the thought of having 1/3 of the abilities the US Intelligence Communities have on the population. |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 9:54:17 AM EST
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Gotta make a living somehow. Also that sweet dental plan. Look at the work they do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm here pointing out that the Republicans supported the usurpation of civil liberties too and you think that is being a Jack Booted Thug? LOL *Also works for the surveillance state* |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:00:30 AM EST
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Something Miami_JBT and I agree on. Thank the GOPe and the Shrub for unprecidented surveillance on US citizens.
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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:15:33 AM EST
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I love the edge lords that are so edgy they can't see that Globalist GOP and Statist DNC are absolutely losing their shit because neither of them can control Trump. But, hey, Trump has an R next to his name and he hasn't completely changed the system in three years so he is obviously one of them...or something.
For folks that say they hate Soros, you all are damn good at doing his bidding. |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:22:06 AM EST
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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:23:19 AM EST
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Bah, I picture M_JBT as the Ron Swanson of his office. Prove me wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm here pointing out that the Republicans supported the usurpation of civil liberties too and you think that is being a Jack Booted Thug? LOL *Also works for the surveillance state* |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:24:02 AM EST
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I love the edge lords that are so edgy they can't see that Globalist GOP and Statist DNC are absolutely losing their shit because neither of them can control Trump. But, hey, Trump has an R next to his name and he hasn't completely changed the system in three years so he is obviously one of them...or something. For folks that say they hate Soros, you all are damn good at doing his bidding. |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:25:42 AM EST
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For some reason, the rank-and-file Republican voter, and the Republicans they elect, just can't wrap their heads around the utter importance of privacy. It's really frustrating.
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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:30:25 AM EST
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But we need these powers to stop
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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:57:30 AM EST
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High on my list is to make one big pile of license plate readers and burn them, along with traffic cams. And tar and feather the ones who allowed/got paid to run those through. At least here in TN people in the know just wad up the traffic cam notice and toss it in the trash.
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Posted: 12/13/2019 1:49:08 PM EST
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Democrat and Republican politicians are the same side of the same coin, just claiming to be different. They are paid by the same masters and believe in the same thing - enriching themselves and doing whatever it takes to stay in power.
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