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Posted: 10/9/2015 9:51:52 PM EDT
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Gissur Simonarson CN ?@GissiSim 18m18 minutes ago VIDEO: Russian “Precision strikes”, only 1 out of 4 hits target.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBEkjj9PL5I
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ4dfdFUAAAe_R0.jpg Russia is unintentionally making themselves look inept. The entire world has watched the United States precision bomb bad guys for 12 years. Go home Russia, you're drunk. 12 years of precision bombings, and what was gained? Actually we really started showing the world our precision bombing in 1991 with the daily Desert Storm briefs. We sotra teased them with it in 1986 with some El Dorado Canyon footage. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 10:41:38 PM EDT
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Only a matter of time before one of these is confirmed shot down. tl:dw skip to 1:30 Could have hit it with a rock it's so low. https://youtu.be/7TSMCkbKO18
https://youtu.be/7TSMCkbKO18 If they want to take down Hinds, they need beefier weapons than AKs. Hinds are pretty heavily armored and would laugh at 7.62x39mm. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 11:53:52 PM EDT
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The Russians are likely to dash your hopes. They've been pretty effective at destroying "FSA" weapons depots according to reports. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Slightly less vulnerable to MANPADS that extremely low, but more vulnerable to ground fire. I guess it is a trade off. FSA have no reliable supply of MANPADS, just AAA. Hopefully Qatar, Turkey and Saudi rectify that. The Russians are likely to dash your hopes. They've been pretty effective at destroying "FSA" weapons depots according to reports. Yeah, they already won the war with a weeks worth of bombings. 
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Posted: 10/10/2015 12:25:02 AM EDT
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IIRC, some Iranian weaponary have markings in English for some reason. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are we supplying the TOW missles? We sell them to Saudi, Turkey, and Qatar, who then smuggle them to the rebels. Most likely its with American tacit support. Need closer pics to confirm. The rebels, many of them being SAA deserters, captured numerous govt ammo dumps, so its possible that some of these are the Iranian Toophan copies of the TOW. But if you look at the videos, many of the tubes have English lettering on them, which means they are US made and smuggled in. IIRC, some Iranian weaponary have markings in English for some reason. We have given the FSA a shit load of TOW's this year. Part of the deal is they have to film the use and save the "empty brass" or whatever is left for the secret squirrel types to evaluate. |
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Posted: 10/10/2015 12:26:03 AM EDT
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If they want to take down Hinds, they need beefier weapons than AKs. Hinds are pretty heavily armored and would laugh at 7.62x39mm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only a matter of time before one of these is confirmed shot down. tl:dw skip to 1:30 Could have hit it with a rock it's so low. https://youtu.be/7TSMCkbKO18
https://youtu.be/7TSMCkbKO18 If they want to take down Hinds, they need beefier weapons than AKs. Hinds are pretty heavily armored and would laugh at 7.62x39mm. I don't believe the forward glass is bulletproof but I could be wrong. |
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Posted: 10/10/2015 9:56:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia is unintentionally making themselves look inept. The entire world has watched the United States precision bomb bad guys for 12 years. Go home Russia, you're drunk. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gissur Simonarson CN ?@GissiSim 18m18 minutes ago VIDEO: Russian "Precision strikes”, only 1 out of 4 hits target. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBEkjj9PL5Ihttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ4dfdFUAAAe_R0.jpg Russia is unintentionally making themselves look inept. The entire world has watched the United States precision bomb bad guys for 12 years. Go home Russia, you're drunk. |
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Posted: 10/10/2015 10:11:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad someone said it. It has happened time and time again. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I doubt those missiles are heading toward ISIS. Lying Russian bitches.... ISIS = armed muslim terrorists Syria moderates = armed muslim terrorists Assad forces = armed muslim terrorists Does not matter who you target in Syria, none of them are US-friendly. It doesn't matter if they are friendly, it matters if they are useful. Many of the allies the US has had over the years weren't pro-US even at the best of times. If US policy regarding the Assad regime is to overthrow him, then there are limited number of resources to use to do this without direct US intervention. For those that think Assad is the strongman that Syria needs to hold things together, remember he is directly 100% responsible for the Syrian Civil War emerging from Arab Spring protests. Arab Spring: A Research & Study Guide, Syria Remind the folks in fly over country again why 'we' want Assad replaced? Obama's foreign policy has resulted in dictators being overthrown in the middle east and been replaced by failed nations run by Islamic terrorists. It's not like any of these Muslim countries are going to become civil, peaceful countries, they will just become part of a Caliphate and destabilize the region. Glad someone said it. It has happened time and time again. Just playing Devil's advocate here but if you put it all on paper Assad has: * Used Chemical weapons on civilians * Conducted open warfare on civilian population * Built Nuclear facilities in secret |
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Posted: 10/10/2015 11:03:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2015 12:31:40 PM EDT
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Which one of you guys put this together?
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Posted: 10/10/2015 12:37:35 PM EDT
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Deadly trail left by retreating Syrian jihadists in Bahsa village Low Flight MIG 29 Airstrike On Syrian RebelsSyria War Snipers of AleppoSyria War Syrian Rebels Pinned Down Under Heavy Machine Gun And Mortar Fire In IdlibSyrian War 2015 - SAA 4th Corps preparations for the recent battle in Hama's CountrysideSyrian Rebels Cornered In Heavy Urban House To House Firefight In Syria |
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Posted: 10/10/2015 12:54:09 PM EDT
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Thanks for the links Realwar and others. LOL @ that last video....nice mid battle mirror selfies.
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Posted: 10/10/2015 1:31:23 PM EDT
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We have given the FSA a shit load of TOW's this year. Part of the deal is they have to film the use and save the "empty brass" or whatever is left for the secret squirrel types to evaluate. Its a one for one swap, video and spent tube means they get issued a new one, to show that the weapon was actually fired and not smuggled to another country or used against the wrong side. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:05:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:11:54 PM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1796544_Photos_of_Russian_missile_that_landed_in_Iran.html
I'm getting lazy... just linking other arfcom threads. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 8:30:59 PM EDT
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I for one want to see our TOW missiles against a new T90AM with Relict armor. As much as I'd want it to, I've got 10 bucks that says it won't penetrate the frontal armor or poptop. Give all our Americans tanks the best people a much needed wake up call. I hope the next missile out of the tube then KB's the shoot team (unless Kurdish) just cuz there are no good guys over there it seems, on either side.
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Posted: 10/11/2015 8:47:58 PM EDT
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Fyi there are some good pbs frontline videos on netflix on Syria, and Ukraine. Search 'frontline' not Syria. Syria's second front & battle zones.
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Posted: 10/11/2015 8:54:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I for one want to see our TOW missiles against a new T90AM with Relict armor. As much as I'd want it to, I've got 10 bucks that says it won't penetrate the frontal armor or poptop. Give all our Americans tanks the best people a much needed wake up call. I hope the next missile out of the tube then KB's the shoot team (unless Kurdish) just cuz there are no good guys over there it seems, on either side. If the T-90 is equipped with SHTORA or Arena active armor its going to be hard to get a direct hit to pop the top. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:23:03 AM EDT
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World War II Weapons in Syria's Civil WarFSA TOW Missile Destroys ISIS Bulldozer Brigade of the Free Syrian Army uses a U.S. made BGM-71 TOW missile to destroy an ISIS bulldozer as it was building fortifications in Soran. Syria War Frontline Insane Heavy Firefight |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 11:42:37 AM EDT
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Is that confirmed that Russia had an aircraft shot down?
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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:29:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that confirmed that Russia had an aircraft shot down? Not confirmed could be a Syrian air force pilot earlier in the war but not sure. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:39:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:47:45 PM EDT
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I've been enjoying watching them light their money on fire. Lord knows, our own wallet could use a break. Carry on, Russia. My popcorn is still warm, and buttered. I'm pretty sure they are getting their money's worth. And it won't work to our benifit. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySoviet tuff makes since, but where did they get a Nazi field artillery from? or MG-42s? unless those are Yugo MG53s. Ammo logistic is not their forte.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:04:45 PM EDT
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Syria bought quite a bit of WWII German surplus and even had ex-Wehrmacht advisors in the late 40s-early 50s. There is a Panzer IV abandoned on the Golan Heights still and a survivor at the Israeli armor museum at Latrun.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:06:54 PM EDT
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Not confirmed could be a Syrian air force pilot earlier in the war but not sure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is that confirmed that Russia had an aircraft shot down? Not confirmed could be a Syrian air force pilot earlier in the war but not sure. I couldn't tell, the fact it was such a quick shot of the pilot leaves me suspicious. Seems they would want to parade that better if it was indeed a Russian pilot. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:45:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDo these guys work in isolation from each other? I mean wouldn't it make sense to then immediately start mortaring that infantry? Or even launch another TOW at that 2nd Tank? |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:58:30 PM EDT
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It's amazing to me how those guys in the turret managed to bail out. It makes me like our idea of the open top WW II tank destroyers that were easy to abandon.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 3:08:58 PM EDT
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I'm kind of surprised that they even have a Caspian Sea fleet. It would be like us having a fleet in Lake Superior. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 4:29:16 PM EDT
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I'm kind of surprised that they even have a Caspian Sea fleet. It would be like us having a fleet in Lake Superior. Which if Lake Superior bordered two semi-hostile countries and had plenty of oil, would make perfect sense. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 4:49:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:22:45 PM EDT
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Rebels using brand new 70 year old WWII M56 mortars.
EDIT: No. No they aren't. More propaganda. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:48:10 PM EDT
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Rebels using brand new 70 year old WWII M56 mortars. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRJZndwWEAAswfy.png:large Awesome |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:57:48 PM EDT
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Would suck to drive thru this field.
Those are massive anti armor mines no? Massive EFP's?
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:59:15 PM EDT
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If the T-90 is equipped with SHTORA or Arena active armor its going to be hard to get a direct hit to pop the top. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I for one want to see our TOW missiles against a new T90AM with Relict armor. As much as I'd want it to, I've got 10 bucks that says it won't penetrate the frontal armor or poptop. Give all our Americans tanks the best people a much needed wake up call. I hope the next missile out of the tube then KB's the shoot team (unless Kurdish) just cuz there are no good guys over there it seems, on either side. If the T-90 is equipped with SHTORA or Arena active armor its going to be hard to get a direct hit to pop the top. Shtora and arena have been worked around but it depends on the model TOW package they got. The reactive and ceramic armor package on the newer t90's frontal arc is impressive. Ukrainians pasted a T90 with several baryer missiles without obvious penetration and watched the crew climb out albeit injured. The Russians came and towed it away that night. I don't think an M1a2 could take hits from those (with reactive armor probably but we don't use the stuff for some reason). The baryer is a damn fine AT missile on the upper edge of penetration so it seems the t90Am does have pretty stout armor up front. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:18:19 PM EDT
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Syria bought quite a bit of WWII German surplus and even had ex-Wehrmacht advisors in the late 40s-early 50s. There is a Panzer IV abandoned on the Golan Heights still and a survivor at the Israeli armor museum at Latrun. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Not only that, but during the Iraq War they bought a bunch of Russian surplus including wartime captured German arms, to include MG-34s, MG-42s, StG-44s, MP-40s, Mausers, etc. The intent was to issue them to irregulars and also to supply them to terrorists and insurgents sponsored by the Assad government. A lot of them went to insurgents killing Americans in Iraq. One of the newspapers out here actually had an article about it (kinda wish I had kept it; it was interesting). |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:11:58 AM EDT
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Here's more on that Russian cluster bomb video I posted in another reply. It appears it may have came from sort of Russian MLRS system.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:23:26 AM EDT
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Rebels using brand new 70 year old WWII M56 mortars. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRJZndwWEAAswfy.png:large Awesome That same picture is on a digger site in a 2011 thread. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 5:28:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2015 5:29:39 PM EDT
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Rebels using brand new 70 year old WWII M56 mortars. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRJZndwWEAAswfy.png:large Awesome That same picture is on a digger site in a 2011 thread. Thanks for pointing that out. Lies and propaganda abounds in this war. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 11:32:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:40:53 PM EDT
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Russian air assault with Syrian troops.
Rebel arms depot hit. Trying to hit Russian planes over Syria |
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Posted: 10/15/2015 4:55:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2015 9:25:42 PM EDT
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Bump
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Posted: 10/30/2015 1:30:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDang, Was that someone getting out at the end? I figured a TOW/Toophan would filet a BMP. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 2:39:31 PM EDT
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ISIS = armed muslim terrorists Syria moderates = armed muslim terrorists Assad forces = armed muslim terrorists Does not matter who you target in Syria, none of them are US-friendly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I doubt those missiles are heading toward ISIS. Lying Russian bitches.... ISIS = armed muslim terrorists Syria moderates = armed muslim terrorists Assad forces = armed muslim terrorists Does not matter who you target in Syria, none of them are US-friendly. Thank you for explaining the truth. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 4:14:21 PM EDT
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I am not sure a large proliferation of MANPADS in Syria will be a good thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Slightly less vulnerable to MANPADS that extremely low, but more vulnerable to ground fire. I guess it is a trade off. FSA have no reliable supply of MANPADS, just AAA. Hopefully Qatar, Turkey and Saudi rectify that. I am not sure a large proliferation of MANPADS in Syria will be a good thing. Some will end up being used against airliners, even in civilized parts of the world. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 7:26:45 PM EDT
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Armor isn't.
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Posted: 10/30/2015 8:02:10 PM EDT
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I don't believe the forward glass is bulletproof but I could be wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only a matter of time before one of these is confirmed shot down. tl:dw skip to 1:30 Could have hit it with a rock it's so low. https://youtu.be/7TSMCkbKO18
https://youtu.be/7TSMCkbKO18 If they want to take down Hinds, they need beefier weapons than AKs. Hinds are pretty heavily armored and would laugh at 7.62x39mm. I don't believe the forward glass is bulletproof but I could be wrong. 20 mm. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 8:12:35 PM EDT
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It would be wise to keep any resupply as low tech as possible. Anything significantlyuseful is going to flow all over the world.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 1:51:59 AM EDT
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Check out the size of this mortar.
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