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Is this the nation state version of the Stockholm Syndrome? View Quote |
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That merry band of shitbirds is supported by the people, revolution is no stranger to the russian people. Time to wake up. View Quote |
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i don't like putin, i don't admire him. but i most certainly do not "hate" him because he's doing the same thing for his people that many of our leaders believe we ought to be doing for our own. if you are a russian president, you aren't going to be doing anything for the russian people by being subservient to the western world's demands. you and i might not like what putin does but you and i most certainly would do what putin is doing if we were russians and considered ourselves russian patriots in the way we consider ourselves american patriots now. that is the perspective that i look at the russian situation from. View Quote People side with those who have self-respect, who fight for themselves, who fight for their interest. In the meantime, most of the Western world's politicians hate their countries, despise their people, would rather ethnically cleanse their own population and replace them with shitholers, and most certainly don't have their people's interests at heart. CNN-watching boomers may lash out at this all they want. But it's the facts. You don't have to like Putin or Russia. Go ahead, hate them all you want. But they have self-respect. And "you" don't. And nobody is going to respect or be on the side of a people who are committing national suicide. |
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I certainly wouldn't go so far to say that "I have more in common with the average rural Russian than the average urban American". However, I will say that conservatives have many parallels with Russians. Some examples: Believe in low taxes Believe in the right to self defense Opposed to generous welfare (believe it's ok that people have to work to eat) More pro-gun than Western Europeans Opposed to most progressive social policies (gay rights, feminism, etc.) Opposed to unlimited immigration (though Russia does have immigrant problems) More skeptical about global warming (this is certainly not absolute, though) Believe that government is corrupt and can't be trusted Believe in having a strong military (theirs is not that strong but it is a much bigger priority than for Western Europe) Not as concerned with environmentalism That's what I can think of off the top of my head but I'm sure there's many more. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I would wager I have more in common with the average rural Russian than the average urban American. That doesnt mean Im going to trust him without safeguards. However, I will say that conservatives have many parallels with Russians. Some examples: Believe in low taxes Believe in the right to self defense Opposed to generous welfare (believe it's ok that people have to work to eat) More pro-gun than Western Europeans Opposed to most progressive social policies (gay rights, feminism, etc.) Opposed to unlimited immigration (though Russia does have immigrant problems) More skeptical about global warming (this is certainly not absolute, though) Believe that government is corrupt and can't be trusted Believe in having a strong military (theirs is not that strong but it is a much bigger priority than for Western Europe) Not as concerned with environmentalism That's what I can think of off the top of my head but I'm sure there's many more. Are you really that clueless or does "off the top of your head" mean in your colon? |
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So Im a communist useful idiot for seeing the modern American left as communist useful idiots? Go fuck yourself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Ideological restraints kept Russian information operations pretty much restricted to the Left for decades. The removal of these means they have unrestrained opportunities to successfully target both these days. Fostering and propping up their old allies on the Left, while simultaneously appealing to the Right by using those very Leftist groups as strawmen examples of what Western freedoms, unchecked, let happen. In this very thread, we see how hilariously well these messages resonate with the useful idiots crowd. Go fuck yourself. If you think for a second that Russia doesn’t still have ties to Antifa and similar groups while simultaneously targeting folks like you with their “look, those are the real enemy, we’re out here trying to save Christendom for the Left” messaging, then you are being quite useful, indeed. |
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in the (admittedly limited) experience i've had with russians, i've never met one who just hated me because i'm american. we have more in common, as a people, than we think. i guess irreconcilable differences with our governments will permanently keep us apart. View Quote |
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QFT. Our greatest enemies are within. Look at what Hitlery did in starting the "muh russia" sh*t on Donald Magnus. She and Soros funded Antifa(ct). Besides, that corrupt nation Russia is only a threat via the vulnerable petro-dollar. View Quote |
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uh... yeah... because they are patriots (russian patriots) and putin is their president. you... you do realize that large, nationalistic groups of people tend to support their own leaders, right? that's like saying we have an inherent quarrel with russia because we support trump instead of putin. it's mind-boggling that you would type that, really... View Quote But unfortunately it's not mind-boggling at all. |
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in the (admittedly limited) experience i've had with russians, i've never met one who just hated me because i'm american. we have more in common, as a people, than we think. i guess irreconcilable differences with our governments will permanently keep us apart. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: If it wasn't for politicians I truly believe that Russians and Americans would make a hell of a team. Russians and Americans are very similar people in some ways. I'm a proud American and a proud Russian. I love America and it's constitution. I despise communism and SJWs. My first vote as a citizen was for Trump. I'm sorry that you think I should die a horrible painful death. we have more in common, as a people, than we think. i guess irreconcilable differences with our governments will permanently keep us apart. I'm no fan of Putin but I understand why so many Russians support him. Communism destroyed our culture and our faith. Putin has done a lot to restore Russian pride, but at the cost of isolation. He painted America as our enemy for political advantage when the reality could not be farther from the truth. I deeply believe that if Americans and Russians formed an alliance nothing could stop us. |
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You Russia lovers have no idea what "divide and conquer" means. lol View Quote left v. right boomers v. gen-x/millennials blacks v. whites Latinos v. whites gheys v. straights Like Herr Professor suggested, shut off the CNN and the rest of the MSM |
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The US is more communist today than Russia is.
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i don't think russia isn't a global rival but whenever you see someone call putin a communist it's usually a clue to ignore everything else they have to say because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. he's a nationalist, an opportunist, a careerist, all of this to be sure, but not a communist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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QFT. Our greatest enemies are within. Look at what Hitlery did in starting the "muh russia" sh*t on Donald Magnus. She and Soros funded Antifa(ct). Besides, that corrupt nation Russia is only a threat via the vulnerable petro-dollar. he's a nationalist, an opportunist, a careerist, all of this to be sure, but not a communist. Stalin wasn’t. Krushchev.... maybe was. Brezhnev wasn’t. Gorbachev wasn’t... lost all faith in the “revolution.” Putin was a true believer and a successful apparatchik. Then again, Marxist Leninist Soviet Communism was always more about justifying Kremlin supremacy than any abstract socialist idealogy. Otherwise, the Cold War tensions between the USSR and China and Yugoslavia make no sense. |
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Russia has nothing we want. https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F820%2F439%2Fa4e.jpg&sp=dae00896ca283c65e8a28c0729933515 View Quote |
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i don't think russia isn't a global rival but whenever you see someone call putin a communist it's usually a clue to ignore everything else they have to say because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. he's a nationalist, an opportunist, a careerist, all of this to be sure, but not a communist. View Quote |
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So Im a communist useful idiot for seeing the modern American left as communist useful idiots? Go fuck yourself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Ideological restraints kept Russian information operations pretty much restricted to the Left for decades. The removal of these means they have unrestrained opportunities to successfully target both these days. Fostering and propping up their old allies on the Left, while simultaneously appealing to the Right by using those very Leftist groups as strawmen examples of what Western freedoms, unchecked, let happen. In this very thread, we see how hilariously well these messages resonate with the useful idiots crowd. Go fuck yourself. Didn't learn reading comprehension back in grade school eh? |
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That's exactly what the MSM here in America is doing to the American people. left v. right boomers v. gen-x/millennials blacks v. whites Latinos v. whites gheys v. straights Like Herr Professor suggested, shut off the CNN and the rest of the MSM View Quote i dont even have Cable TV. |
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Is it just me or do some of you fucks actually believe Russia is still communist?
Russians like Putin because he works in their interest. It's the same reason we like Trump and the same reason everyone else in the world hates both of them. However, it's important to note that Putin isn't controlling the government. There's a complex web of oligarchs and other actors within the Russian government that force Putin to do their bidding. I suggest you all take a look at this book.
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Nietzsche didn't promote the supremacy of the state over the individual, as far as I know, but he did accurately predict it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Communism was evil enough that only a culture completely lacking culture, would accept it. There is something fundamentally wrong with Russians. Same shit happened all over the world, hell it's happening here now. I wonder what you guys make of Putin's affiliation with the orthodox church. Cite even one Nietzsche qoute promoting government's dominance over the individual. One. It don't exist. I've read nearly every thing written by Nietzsche, granted I completely understood only a portion, but government is almost never addressed. It's all individual philosophy. Once we're all obermench, maybe Plato's Republic kicks in... |
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very well said. And that's...why...people side with Russia. People side with those who have self-respect, who fight for themselves, who fight for their interest. In the meantime, most of the Western world's politicians hate their countries, despise their people, would rather ethnically cleanse their own population and replace them with shitholers, and most certainly don't have their people's interests at heart. CNN-watching boomers may lash out at this all they want. But it's the facts. You don't have to like Putin or Russia. Go ahead, hate them all you want. But they have self-respect. And "you" don't. And nobody is going to respect or be on the side of a people who are committing national suicide. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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i don't like putin, i don't admire him. but i most certainly do not "hate" him because he's doing the same thing for his people that many of our leaders believe we ought to be doing for our own. if you are a russian president, you aren't going to be doing anything for the russian people by being subservient to the western world's demands. you and i might not like what putin does but you and i most certainly would do what putin is doing if we were russians and considered ourselves russian patriots in the way we consider ourselves american patriots now. that is the perspective that i look at the russian situation from. People side with those who have self-respect, who fight for themselves, who fight for their interest. In the meantime, most of the Western world's politicians hate their countries, despise their people, would rather ethnically cleanse their own population and replace them with shitholers, and most certainly don't have their people's interests at heart. CNN-watching boomers may lash out at this all they want. But it's the facts. You don't have to like Putin or Russia. Go ahead, hate them all you want. But they have self-respect. And "you" don't. And nobody is going to respect or be on the side of a people who are committing national suicide. |
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Is it just me or do some of you fucks actually believe Russia is still communist? Russians like Putin because he works in their interest. It's the same reason we like Trump and the same reason everyone else in the world hates both of them. However, it's important to note that Putin isn't controlling the government. There's a complex web of oligarchs and other actors within the Russian government that force Putin to do their bidding. I suggest you all take a look at this book. www.amazon.com/dp/1610397398 View Quote I bet if we put troops on the border, we'd dance and drink together! |
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Quoted: In that case, very few of the Communists were, well, Communists. Stalin wasn't. Krushchev.... maybe was. Brezhnev wasn't. Gorbachev wasn't... lost all faith in the "revolution." Putin was a true believer and a successful apparatchik. Then again, Marxist Leninist Soviet Communism was always more about justifying Kremlin supremacy than any abstract socialist idealogy. Otherwise, the Cold War tensions between the USSR and China and Yugoslavia make no sense. View Quote |
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That's exactly what the MSM here in America is doing to the American people. left v. right boomers v. gen-x/millennials blacks v. whites Latinos v. whites gheys v. straights Like Herr Professor suggested, shut off the CNN and the rest of the MSM View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You Russia lovers have no idea what "divide and conquer" means. lol left v. right boomers v. gen-x/millennials blacks v. whites Latinos v. whites gheys v. straights Like Herr Professor suggested, shut off the CNN and the rest of the MSM They have been doing it here before CNN even existed... |
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Quoted: We really do have much in common and from my experience conservatives Americans especially so. I'm no fan of Putin but I understand why so many Russians support him. Communism destroyed our culture and our faith. Putin has done a lot to restore Russian pride, but at the cost of isolation. He painted America as our enemy for political advantage when the reality could not be farther from the truth. I deeply believe that if Americans and Russians formed an alliance nothing could stop us. View Quote Doesn't excuse Putin's actions. With any luck the Russians can get better leadership. It would be good for them and us if it could happen. |
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Dafuq? That's not what I said. Nietzsche said nihilistic totalitarian regimes would kill tens of millions of people in the 20th century...in the 19th century. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No. Cite even one Nietzsche qoute promoting government's dominance over the individual. One. It don't exist. That's not what I said. Nietzsche said nihilistic totalitarian regimes would kill tens of millions of people in the 20th century...in the 19th century. That's what I'm saying. Please provide me with an exact quote to prove me wrong. |
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Russia has nothing we want. https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F820%2F439%2Fa4e.jpg&sp=dae00896ca283c65e8a28c0729933515 View Quote |
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very well said. And that's...why...people side with Russia. People side with those who have self-respect, who fight for themselves, who fight for their interest. In the meantime, most of the Western world's politicians hate their countries, despise their people, would rather ethnically cleanse their own population and replace them with shitholers, and most certainly don't have their people's interests at heart. CNN-watching boomers may lash out at this all they want. But it's the facts. You don't have to like Putin or Russia. Go ahead, hate them all you want. But they have self-respect. And "you" don't. And nobody is going to respect or be on the side of a people who are committing national suicide. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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i don't like putin, i don't admire him. but i most certainly do not "hate" him because he's doing the same thing for his people that many of our leaders believe we ought to be doing for our own. if you are a russian president, you aren't going to be doing anything for the russian people by being subservient to the western world's demands. you and i might not like what putin does but you and i most certainly would do what putin is doing if we were russians and considered ourselves russian patriots in the way we consider ourselves american patriots now. that is the perspective that i look at the russian situation from. People side with those who have self-respect, who fight for themselves, who fight for their interest. In the meantime, most of the Western world's politicians hate their countries, despise their people, would rather ethnically cleanse their own population and replace them with shitholers, and most certainly don't have their people's interests at heart. CNN-watching boomers may lash out at this all they want. But it's the facts. You don't have to like Putin or Russia. Go ahead, hate them all you want. But they have self-respect. And "you" don't. And nobody is going to respect or be on the side of a people who are committing national suicide. |
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The Russian govt and military loves A-mer-eek-uh! I bet if we put troops on the border, we'd dance and drink together! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is it just me or do some of you fucks actually believe Russia is still communist? Russians like Putin because he works in their interest. It's the same reason we like Trump and the same reason everyone else in the world hates both of them. However, it's important to note that Putin isn't controlling the government. There's a complex web of oligarchs and other actors within the Russian government that force Putin to do their bidding. I suggest you all take a look at this book. www.amazon.com/dp/1610397398 I bet if we put troops on the border, we'd dance and drink together! |
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lol Are you really that clueless or does "off the top of your head" mean in your colon? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I would wager I have more in common with the average rural Russian than the average urban American. That doesnt mean Im going to trust him without safeguards. However, I will say that conservatives have many parallels with Russians. Some examples: Believe in low taxes Believe in the right to self defense Opposed to generous welfare (believe it's ok that people have to work to eat) More pro-gun than Western Europeans Opposed to most progressive social policies (gay rights, feminism, etc.) Opposed to unlimited immigration (though Russia does have immigrant problems) More skeptical about global warming (this is certainly not absolute, though) Believe that government is corrupt and can't be trusted Believe in having a strong military (theirs is not that strong but it is a much bigger priority than for Western Europe) Not as concerned with environmentalism That's what I can think of off the top of my head but I'm sure there's many more. Are you really that clueless or does "off the top of your head" mean in your colon? |
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Rolls eyes. i dont even have Cable TV. View Quote I still think the coup against Don attempted by Hiterly and her allies the greatest threat and that our greatest enemy is within. They did nothing short of unconstitutional treason in trying to usurp him. |
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Explain how Im being useful to Russia or Communism's intrests. Ill buy that Russia is "fanning the flames" of US national politics for thier own interest by playing both sides- but me seeing the prima facia evidence of marxist in our streets has no bearing on Russia. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: You see only what you want to. If you think for a second that Russia dpesn’t still have ties to Antifa and similar groups while simultaneously targeting folks like you with their “look, those are the real enemy, we’re out here trying to save Christendom for the Left” messaging, then you are being quite useful, indeed. When so much of the Right parrots Russian bullshit about NATO, seeks to undermine the alliance or even have the US abandon it, complains that US policies are unduly provoking Russia, or even propping up our shared societies natural enemies (see every Syria thread and the talking point s asserting the US backs or even created ISIS), then we have a useful idiots problem. Calling such institutions the tools of the western Left, even as the western Left remains their biggest enemies, is one aspect of that messaging as it targets the western Right. Not being able to see through it is the result of willful ignorance. |
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FWIW I am sorry what has happened to your country of birth. Communism was never anything but a murderous death cult, and study of Russian history can tell us quickly why many individuals in Russia support strong man leaders like Putin. Doesn't excuse Putin's actions. With any luck the Russians can get better leadership. It would be good for them and us if it could happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: We really do have much in common and from my experience conservatives Americans especially so. I'm no fan of Putin but I understand why so many Russians support him. Communism destroyed our culture and our faith. Putin has done a lot to restore Russian pride, but at the cost of isolation. He painted America as our enemy for political advantage when the reality could not be farther from the truth. I deeply believe that if Americans and Russians formed an alliance nothing could stop us. Doesn't excuse Putin's actions. With any luck the Russians can get better leadership. It would be good for them and us if it could happen. |
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Quoted: You do realize that those are the exact "X vs X" feelings that Russia is spending time/money on stirring up in the US right? They have been doing it here before CNN even existed... View Quote Presently, where is our greatest threat? |
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Quoted for posterity. Does OP really think that the average Russian citizen wants him dead? Everyone just wants to get through the day. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: This is such horse shit. Russians don't hate America/Americans. Maybe their government does. Russia's government, which represents that collective of people, is our adversary in many ways. Furthermore, the truth has been posted in this thread. The average Russian is not our friend, nor do they share our values. Russians have slaughtered each other without thinking twice about it on massive scales. They would not give a damn about dead Americans. |
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Good and neither do I nor do I follow any MSM. I found out they were all full of sh*t decades ago. I still think the coup against Don attempted by Hiterly and her allies the greatest threat and that our greatest enemy is within. They did nothing short of unconstitutional treason in trying to usurp him. View Quote But Russia is an adversary and is actively working 24/7 to try and destroy us and Western Civilization. Let's not act like just because Putin hate Hilldog, that he is our Ally. LOL. People are capable of hating 2 things at the same time. |
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Based on everything I've heard you say thus far on this forum you are an amateur or professional agent of russia. I'm going to make sure everyone knows it to too whenever the opportunity arises. You're buddy bland85 is similar except less talented and/or an idiot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Something about the Russian psychic requires a strong man to rule over them. Not that any sane culture would want a coward or weakling to lead them; But, since the Golden hord, the Russians seem to have coalesced around(or tolerated) assholes and thugs as their leaders. It's still better to have a thuggish asshole neighbor a mile down the road, than to be stuck sharing a bed w/ a back-stabbing commie bitch.
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Yes, they spent a lot of money in the '60s and '70s doing that. Are they doing it today and are they outspending Soros? Are they trying to get Trump sacked like Hitlery is? Presently, where is our greatest threat? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well you really are a tard. Didn't learn reading comprehension back in grade school eh? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: Ideological restraints kept Russian information operations pretty much restricted to the Left for decades. The removal of these means they have unrestrained opportunities to successfully target both these days .(Here, Boer Adam frames the argument that Russia, or Russian agents are now playing both sides Fostering and propping up their old allies on the Left, while simultaneously appealing to the Right by using those very Leftist groups as strawmen examples of what Western freedoms, unchecked, let happen. ( Here, Boer Adam gives an example of how these Russians are doing it) In this very thread, we see how hilariously well these messages resonate with the useful idiots crowd. (Here, is where we identify who is being duped by "RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA!!!" that just so happens to be true) Go fuck yourself. Didn't learn reading comprehension back in grade school eh? |
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You do realize that those are the exact "X vs X" feelings that Russia is spending time/money on stirring up in the US right? They have been doing it here before CNN even existed... View Quote I thought conservatives were for personal responsibility? But I guess the temptation to blame others is too strong. So, is the 2 minutes of hate over yet? |
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I hadn’t looked through the entire thread...
Have the FSB trolls shown up? |
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