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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:56:51 PM EDT
The Taliban have done it again: implementing a nearly complete ban against cultivation of opium poppy Afghanistan's most important agricultural product repeating their similarly successful 2000-2001 prohibition on the crop. But the temptation to view the current ban in an overly positive light as an important global counter-narcotics victory must be avoided. This is particularly true given the state of Afghanistan's economy and the country's humanitarian situation. Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. It may even result in internal challenges for the Taliban itself. And, in the long run, it will not have lasting counter-narcotics benefits within Afghanistan or globally. View Quote https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/06/talibans-successful-opium-ban-bad-afghans-and-world |
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"... and that's a bad thing!"
Witness the logic of Globohomo and our establishment. There will never be an end to drugs. The Southern border will never be closed. |
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If poor people are making money at something, even if it’s illegal and harmful and generally considered “bad” by the rest of the planet, we must allow them to continue doing that thing.
Having laws and standards of decency is racist. And classist. And all of the other “ists.” |
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Winning the War on Drugs is bad, because it puts the illegal drug industry out of business and that lowers GDP.
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Quoted: Winning the War on Drugs is bad, because it puts the illegal drug industry out of business and that lowers GDP and harms poor people, and impoverished minorities. View Quote That last part is important. For the progressives to rule, they need people to be poor enough to be dependent on government for their existence, but not so desperate that they start to blame the government for their problems. They also benefit from mass addiction to stupifying substances. They NEED those poppy fields. They just can’t say it out loud. |
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Sounds like a neocon wet dream.
Re-invade to reestablish production, then invade China to provide a market. |
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Quoted: If poor people are making money at something, even if it’s illegal and harmful and generally considered “bad” by the rest of the planet, we must allow them to continue doing that thing. Having laws and standards of decency is racist. And classist. And all of the other “ists.” View Quote Poor people can always do something positive instead. |
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fuck Afghans economy.
i support the Taliban in banning that shit. |
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... Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. ... View Quote FFS... |
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Have they eradicated anally gang-raping young boys? Because I remember that being a thing with U.S. allies.
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Quoted: Where does chinah get its opium to make fentanyl? View Quote @Riter Fentanyl is 100% synthetic. Same as Demerol and Propoxyphene. Morphine and Codeine are 100% natural and make up a percentage of opium. Heroin (diacetylmorphine) is semi-synthetic. Start with a natural opioid and modify it to be more potent. Same as Dilauded, oxycodone, etc. |
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Quoted: Can't cultivate anything if they chop off your hands. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Taliban is better at the war on drugs Attached File |
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Does the world even need that crop anymore?
Will there be any demand for it? Aren't synthetic drugs taking over the pharma and recreational demand for opioids? |
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It's a bad thing because it proves we have not been serious on the war on drugs - we were not willing to chop a few hands off to win.
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Quoted: If poor people are making money at something, even if it’s illegal and harmful and generally considered “bad” by the rest of the planet, we must allow them to continue doing that thing. Having laws and standards of decency is racist. And classist. And all of the other “ists.” View Quote Drugs or terrorists because they’re too poor/dumb to do anything else. Either way it’s a shit sandwich. |
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Quoted: It's a bad thing because it proves we have not been serious on the war on drugs - we were not willing to chop a few hands off to win. View Quote Which is really weird, because we were definitely willing to look the other way while young Afghan boys were being gang-raped by our allies. |
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Quoted: Does the world even need that crop anymore? Will there be any demand for it? Aren't synthetic drugs taking over the pharma and recreational demand for opioids? View Quote @Enzo300 Tradition and self-sufficiency will likely continue to drive opium production. For Fentanyl, you need good chemists as it isn’t easy to manufacture. If production in China stops or supply gets cut off, it’s good to have opium as a back-up. |
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Leftists love to use illegal drugs, they're so dumb they think it signals high intelligence.
So, of course Leftists cry when opium production goes down, because the price of heroin will go up. |
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Quoted: @Enzo300 Tradition and self-sufficiency will likely continue to drive opium production. For Fentanyl, you need good chemists as it isn’t easy to manufacture. If production in China stops or supply gets cut off, it’s good to have opium as a back-up. View Quote Gotcha. Thanks for the answers, Doc. |
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Quoted: The Taliban have done it again: implementing a nearly complete ban against cultivation of opium poppy Afghanistan's most important agricultural product repeating their similarly successful 2000-2001 prohibition on the crop. But the temptation to view the current ban in an overly positive light as an important global counter-narcotics victory must be avoided. This is particularly true given the state of Afghanistan's economy and the country's humanitarian situation. Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. It may even result in internal challenges for the Taliban itself. And, in the long run, it will not have lasting counter-narcotics benefits within Afghanistan or globally. View Quote https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/06/talibans-successful-opium-ban-bad-afghans-and-world View Quote Lmao "United States Institute of Peace" "The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an American federal institution tasked with promoting conflict resolution and prevention worldwide. It provides research, analysis, and training to individuals in diplomacy, mediation, and other peace-building measures." Attached File |
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If we had nuked that country from the start none of this would be an issue.
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Quoted: Lmao "United States Institute of Peace" "The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an American federal institution tasked with promoting conflict resolution and prevention worldwide. It provides research, analysis, and training to individuals in diplomacy, mediation, and other peace-building measures." /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/0c96c781a5e6260d0827848aec47d205-381.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Taliban have done it again: implementing a nearly complete ban against cultivation of opium poppy Afghanistan's most important agricultural product repeating their similarly successful 2000-2001 prohibition on the crop. But the temptation to view the current ban in an overly positive light as an important global counter-narcotics victory must be avoided. This is particularly true given the state of Afghanistan's economy and the country's humanitarian situation. Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. It may even result in internal challenges for the Taliban itself. And, in the long run, it will not have lasting counter-narcotics benefits within Afghanistan or globally. https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/06/talibans-successful-opium-ban-bad-afghans-and-world Lmao "United States Institute of Peace" "The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an American federal institution tasked with promoting conflict resolution and prevention worldwide. It provides research, analysis, and training to individuals in diplomacy, mediation, and other peace-building measures." /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/0c96c781a5e6260d0827848aec47d205-381.gif |
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More like complete ban except for Taliban owned fields and crops!
I like the word "Nearly" interjected in there lol |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Taliban have done it again: implementing a nearly complete ban against cultivation of opium poppy Afghanistan's most important agricultural product repeating their similarly successful 2000-2001 prohibition on the crop. But the temptation to view the current ban in an overly positive light as an important global counter-narcotics victory must be avoided. This is particularly true given the state of Afghanistan's economy and the country's humanitarian situation. Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. It may even result in internal challenges for the Taliban itself. And, in the long run, it will not have lasting counter-narcotics benefits within Afghanistan or globally. https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/06/talibans-successful-opium-ban-bad-afghans-and-world Lmao "United States Institute of Peace" "The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an American federal institution tasked with promoting conflict resolution and prevention worldwide. It provides research, analysis, and training to individuals in diplomacy, mediation, and other peace-building measures." /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/0c96c781a5e6260d0827848aec47d205-381.gif Many such cases. Like the NED. |
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This is only a bad thing because Western Politicians and Shadow Government agencies can't profit off this like they can with Mexican drug cartels.
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