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Quoted: They wouldn't be the first nation to make that exact same mistake. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Winning requires will we don't have. They wouldn't be the first nation to make that exact same mistake. Vietnam? Taliban? All the hardware in the world doesn't mean shit when the politicians are too afraid of pictures on CNN to use it. |
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Originally Posted By OddAtmosphere: Has been interesting seeing the new USMC Commandant want to revamp the Marines specifically to address a potential war in Asia. View Quote Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By glocktalk: Honestly I would not be surprise if we had some next level tech that would allow us to totally shit stomp any country we wanted to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By glocktalk: Honestly I would not be surprise if we had some next level tech that would allow us to totally shit stomp any country we wanted to. like God Rods? Originally Posted By CJ7365: We have the HARDWARE, but not the guts I hate to say. thats what i think. todays cream puffs are not fit for war. bed wetters, trannies, private Pile........ can you image todays tech in the hands of men from our past? |
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Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Our problem is meds for all the muh asthma and muh beetus, we need to have the ability to make our own meds before we start talking about war. View Quote China doesn’t like that either https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Beijing-pull-your-manufacturing-from-China-risk-war-in-Korea-Taiwan-and-Pacific-Ocean/5-2322886/ |
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If the goal is destroy their military an not invade, we can accomplish that.
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Originally Posted By CJ7365: We have the HARDWARE, but not the guts I hate to say. View Quote Yup... These kids today are pussies. Attached File My grandfather got this at Pearl Harbor pulling folks from wreckage while the Japanese were still bombing the hell out of it. Today's kids can't handle losing YouTube... |
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Quoted: LOL in ICBM |
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An "unjust" war...
The statement doesn't have anything to do with whether or not the US could win a conflict with China. It's saying that the US would be unjust in going to war with China. Moral grandstanding BS. |
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Originally Posted By SuperSixOne: Vietnam? Taliban? All the hardware in the world doesn't mean shit when the politicians are too afraid of pictures on CNN to use it. View Quote It takes the will of one man to start events that will lead to a war. I was aiming at Imperial Japan's thinking in the morning of December 7th 1941. -- their standing at the time closer to China's now. But in the 75 years since the weapons have gotten much more terrible. |
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Originally Posted By Spartanatheart: Yup... These kids today are pussies. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126174/IMG_20180207_121938778_jpg-1412670.JPG My grandfather got this at Pearl Harbor pulling folks from wreckage while the Japanese were still bombing the hell out of it. Today's kids can't handle losing YouTube... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Spartanatheart: Originally Posted By CJ7365: We have the HARDWARE, but not the guts I hate to say. Yup... These kids today are pussies. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126174/IMG_20180207_121938778_jpg-1412670.JPG My grandfather got this at Pearl Harbor pulling folks from wreckage while the Japanese were still bombing the hell out of it. Today's kids can't handle losing YouTube... This is complete bullshit and shows your ignorance of history. The US pre 1942 was not ready for any kind of war; materials, politics, civilian motivation etc. Exactly how it is today. We didnt really start rolling until about 1943. |
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My understanding is china is have hard time keep their own people in line right now. I bet a good chunk of the population would love to see the commies go joining any NATO military action.
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America truly is slow to wrath.
the problem is, when you light that fire, the wrath all comes out and burns until it is all consumed. Americans won't be like killing 60 million unarmed Chinese, and those of you saying we don't have the will...I'd say that you're wrong. the Chinese have interrupted lives, killed about 80,000 Americans, and have cost us trillions of dollars and jobs and ,ivelihoods...I'd say we aren't there yet...but We will be, and it will be slaughtering time. |
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Quoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/6F92BDA7-D116-47B7-8497-3925945FC8B2_jpe-1412642.JPG View Quote they are actually right. We haven't have the will in the country to fight and win a war since WWII. Half to 3/4s of the country would riot if we went into a true war with China. Thats why nothing will be done (of any significance) to them over COVID. |
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If we fought the Chinese today like we fought WWII, we'd win. If we fought them like we've fought every war since Vietnam, we'd lose.
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Originally Posted By demoMouse: Lol in an ability to project naval power across an ocean at a rival with a brown water navy View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By demoMouse: Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: LOL in ICBM Lol in an ability to project naval power across an ocean at a rival with a brown water navy Has their Army had to do anything post-Korean war as far as actual conflict other than crushing internal riots or piss-ant "skirmishes" with Indian on the border? |
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Originally Posted By Spartanatheart: Yup... These kids today are pussies. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126174/IMG_20180207_121938778_jpg-1412670.JPG My grandfather got this at Pearl Harbor pulling folks from wreckage while the Japanese were still bombing the hell out of it. Today's kids can't handle losing YouTube... View Quote I guess you haven't been to Iraq or Afghanistan? |
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A little ironic that we would be lofting missiles that were paid for with Chinese money.
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Originally Posted By Dawgfan28: they are actually right. We haven't have the will in the country to fight and win a war since WWII. Half to 3/4s of the country would riot if we went into a true war with China. Thats why nothing will be done (of any significance) to them over COVID. View Quote technically speaking, America hasnt been in a war since WW2 |
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The CCP is probably right. Their leftist allies in this country would ensure that we give up.
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Everything they would be fighting with was made in China so....
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Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/6F92BDA7-D116-47B7-8497-3925945FC8B2_jpe-1412642.JPG LOL in ICBM There's no winners in that kind of war. We simply laugh in Navy. |
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Originally Posted By Spartanatheart: Yup... These kids today are pussies. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126174/IMG_20180207_121938778_jpg-1412670.JPG My grandfather got this at Pearl Harbor pulling folks from wreckage while the Japanese were still bombing the hell out of it. Today's kids can't handle losing YouTube... View Quote Cmon man.... what about these kids? They lost it all. Including YouTube. |
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Quoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/6F92BDA7-D116-47B7-8497-3925945FC8B2_jpe-1412642.JPG View Quote What, they going to come at us with a steam powered half carrier and fake stealth bombers? |
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Who is the Global Times and what else have they failed at this year?
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Originally Posted By South_Side_Shooter: Play that game you want.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/246488/Strait_of_malacca_jpg-1412714.JPG View Quote I’m guessing that’s why they put bases in Burma / Myanmar and the new port in Sri Lanka over India’s protest |
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We can't even handle a month or so of lockdown and we're somehow going to get into it China and prevail. We have the means, we just lack the fortitude. |
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Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: it would suck, but we would fuck China up. I'm sure Russia will be part of it, and it would be an utter, global, disaster, but we aren't losing to China. Fuck that. View Quote Russians are easy. Trump calls Putin "hey Vladimir, yeah hey how's it going? good... good. Hey I have a yuge deal for you are you ready? Ok if you help us stomp the shit out of Chyna just like we did the Germans back in 45, we'll stand back and not say shit about anything you do to them and we can divide that mother fucker up German style what do you say making sure you guys get some sweet natural resources, deal? You don't think the Russians would take that deal? |
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Originally Posted By sabre_kc: We can laugh in Air Force too. A lot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sabre_kc: Originally Posted By Turboguy: There's no winners in that kind of war. We simply laugh in Navy. We can laugh in Air Force too. A lot. Since we are laughing like that, we can laugh in Logistical Support too. |
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Global Times is a propaganda tool of the CCP.
Everything they say is literally coming out of the mouth of the CCP. So, everything they say is suspect. If the US got into a non-land war with China, we'd stomp them into dust. |
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Quoted: I don't know what's worse, how terrible Chinese propaganda is, or the fact that some people actually seem to buy into it. View Quote Do they even have a variety of propaganda outlets like we do here in the USA? There's no shortage of people buying into the horseshit on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, Bloomberg, etc. |
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If we go to war with China, I’m probably getting drafted at 43. We win but we need big numbers.
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Fuck the Chinese. Fuck the government and fuck the people who support them. Their current society is going to destroy our way of life and everyone elses
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Who would win?
A shitty ramp diesel aircraft carrier with planes that can carry like two missiles Or Crazy tic tac aircraft that defy physics |
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I think under current conditions we would win. A Sino-US war would almost certainly be a world war. China has very little friends and we would gather many allies. NOBODY likes China. The Africans are even getting tired of their shit. We still have a decent base of combat experienced personnel. So do many of our allies. Our strategic capabilities dwarf theirs.
They know this, and are playing the long game. The VERY long game. |
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