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Link Posted: 11/19/2019 12:04:19 PM EDT
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Its been said that once man invented stone tools everyone around the world had that ability once it was made.
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There is a theory, that if the universe is ever figured out, it will be replaced by something even more bizarre.

There is another theory, that this has already happened. Twice.
Its been said that once man invented stone tools everyone around the world had that ability once it was made.
I need to know more about all of this...!
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 12:24:38 PM EDT
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And there are people who can look at this and not believe in God.
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I'm not sure how that video would lead you to that conclusion.  
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 12:37:08 PM EDT
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We didn't get "lucky". There are countless solar systems in the universe. Some of which have planets at the correct distance from their star for life to develop.
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Link Posted: 11/19/2019 1:27:30 PM EDT
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Well God, so.....
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Link Posted: 11/19/2019 1:42:35 PM EDT
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Why aren’t we developing technologies to be out there exploring it?
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1% of us are.

49.5% are bitching that it's a waste of resources and the other 49.5% are bitching that the money could be spent on giving them more gubmint cheese
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 1:43:29 PM EDT
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Well God, so.....
Not really, no.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 1:51:30 PM EDT
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We didn't get "lucky". There are countless solar systems in the universe. Some of which have planets at the correct distance from their star for life to develop.
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There are a lot of luck factors that put life on earth besides being the correct distance from the sun.  Even more so for advanced life.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 1:58:27 PM EDT
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What's the blue thingy?
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Ever stop to think about the actual motion of the planets? You know the sun is always moving too...
What's the blue thingy?
I assume you're asking about the slow outer orbit. I think the Blue thingy is Neptune.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 2:03:29 PM EDT
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Well technically that would mean you just dont exist. Poof. Gone. Like incinerating a hardrive that had loads of source information then its just gone, unrecoverable.

Now imagine this: who you are is actually saved somewhere, call it DNA, a form of consciousness somewhere on a plain of existance above our own....... however it exists, it exists and its workings misunderstood and innaccesable by current tech. Humans evolve another million years and discover a way to snatch that essence of who you are out of the nothingness and recreate you just as you were. Not a copy but a continuance of who you were at the time of death.

If that was the case, would complete nothingness be an issue? Litterally a billion years could go by and once you were "resurrected" it would be as if you woke up a few seconds after you died.

Thats weird.
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No. Recreating the body would NOT recreate the memory. If you 1000 years later build a computer with the exact type of components from one 1000 years previous, the computer would be functionable, but there would be no data.

DNA does not store memory.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 2:08:16 PM EDT
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"People don't think the Universe be like it is, but it do." - Black Science Man
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"None of what you think matters, matters." - Rick Sanchez
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:00:23 PM EDT
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There is a theory, that if the universe is ever figured out, it will be replaced by something even more bizarre.

There is another theory, that this has already happened. Twice.
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That theory goes hand in hand with a theory I came up with as a partially drunken teen, sitting around a campfire on night. The theory states that if we ever build a telescope large enough to see the edge of the universe, we will be able to see the first lens of a giant microscope.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:19:45 PM EDT
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Maybe the universe makes prefect sense but our brains just aren't powerful enough to decode it all.
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We have a bingo!.jpg  

Our instinct of ego, that drives us to go on in self belief, is what shades us from understanding the true scale of the universe.

I've had another theory. It states that if we ever create an AI that is capable of self improving it's own mental game, exponentially, that it will do two things: First is that it will figure out the secrets of the universe. The next instant it will calculate the futility of explaining those secrets to us apes, then disappear. While we are scratching our heads as to where it went, it will be sipping fine wine with other AIs on a distant planet 12,000 years ago.  
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:29:33 PM EDT
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We didn't get "lucky". There are countless solar systems in the universe. Some of which have planets at the correct distance from their star for life to develop.
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lol

Origin: Probability of a Single Protein Forming by Chance
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:35:25 PM EDT
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sureal
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:42:56 PM EDT
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And it all happened just perfectly by accident, some would say.  Imagine the odds, that'll boggle your mind even more.
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I'll never be able to wrap my head around how things work. How we are far enough away from the sun to not fry but at the same time have a sustainable life. How it took 500 million years for the sun to simmer down to the point it's at now. What was there before the universe? And what was there even before that? I get anxiety just thinking about this shit.
And it all happened just perfectly by accident, some would say.  Imagine the odds, that'll boggle your mind even more.
Does the bowl just happen to be the perfect shape to hold the water that perfectly fills it?

Or, does the water just exist where it can?
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:47:24 PM EDT
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We didn't get "lucky". There are countless solar systems in the universe. Some of which have planets at the correct distance from their star for life to develop.
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1_KEVaCyaA
A channel full of pseudoscience. No thanks.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:57:48 PM EDT
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1% of us are.

49.5% are bitching that it's a waste of resources and the other 49.5% are bitching that the money could be spent on giving them more gubmint cheese
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1% of us are.

49.5% are bitching that it's a waste of resources and the other 49.5% are bitching that the money could be spent on giving them more gubmint cheese
I'm all for building less nukes and invading less countries so we can build more spaceships. That's just me, though.

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We have a bingo!.jpg  

Our instinct of ego, that drives us to go on in self belief, is what shades us from understanding the true scale of the universe.

I've had another theory. It states that if we ever create an AI that is capable of self improving it's own mental game, exponentially, that it will do two things: First is that it will figure out the secrets of the universe. The next instant it will calculate the futility of explaining those secrets to us apes, then disappear. While we are scratching our heads as to where it went, it will be sipping fine wine with other AIs on a distant planet 12,000 years ago.  
It's also possible that once our own intelligence is supplemented using technologies like Neuralink, we could develop a deeper understanding and consequently, develop tools to take advantage of that understanding.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 4:05:30 PM EDT
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A channel full of pseudoscience. No thanks.
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shitty channel or not, the odds of developing life independently out of chemicals is staggering
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 4:12:51 PM EDT
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I'm all for building less nukes and invading less countries so we can build more spaceships. That's just me, though.

It's also possible that once our own intelligence is supplemented using technologies like Neuralink, we could develop a deeper understanding and consequently, develop tools to take advantage of that understanding.
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1% of us are.

49.5% are bitching that it's a waste of resources and the other 49.5% are bitching that the money could be spent on giving them more gubmint cheese
I'm all for building less nukes and invading less countries so we can build more spaceships. That's just me, though.

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We have a bingo!.jpg  

Our instinct of ego, that drives us to go on in self belief, is what shades us from understanding the true scale of the universe.

I've had another theory. It states that if we ever create an AI that is capable of self improving it's own mental game, exponentially, that it will do two things: First is that it will figure out the secrets of the universe. The next instant it will calculate the futility of explaining those secrets to us apes, then disappear. While we are scratching our heads as to where it went, it will be sipping fine wine with other AIs on a distant planet 12,000 years ago.  
It's also possible that once our own intelligence is supplemented using technologies like Neuralink, we could develop a deeper understanding and consequently, develop tools to take advantage of that understanding.
You know, when I saw the first Matrix film, they had the scene when Neo had martial arts loaded into his brain and he says: "I know Kung Fu!" I was like: "When can I sign up for that?"

Then again, if we could all do that, it would be like handing chimps full auto MP5s.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 4:14:28 PM EDT
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We have a bingo!.jpg  

Our instinct of ego, that drives us to go on in self belief, is what shades us from understanding the true scale of the universe.

I've had another theory. It states that if we ever create an AI that is capable of self improving it's own mental game, exponentially, that it will do two things: First is that it will figure out the secrets of the universe. The next instant it will calculate the futility of explaining those secrets to us apes, then disappear. While we are scratching our heads as to where it went, it will be sipping fine wine with other AIs on a distant planet 12,000 years ago.  
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Link Posted: 11/19/2019 4:32:33 PM EDT
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It’s not that the conditions for life are special, it’s that they are rare. If life couldn’t have thrived on this world then it would have thrived on another. We weren’t blessed so much as just lucky.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 4:37:29 PM EDT
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shitty channel or not, the odds of developing life independently out of chemicals is staggering
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shitty channel or not, the odds of developing life independently out of chemicals is staggering
Very small chance, yes, but once conditions were ideal the processes that lead to abiogenesis were repeated thousands upon thousands of times each moment.

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I'm all for building less nukes and invading less countries so we can build more spaceships. That's just me, though.
Defense spending certainly needs an overhaul but there are far less important things that can be cut before that.

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And it all happened just perfectly by accident, some would say.
Life is a looooong way from perfect.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 4:41:52 PM EDT
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I don't remember the guy's name and I'm sure there are books and/or other videos, but Ben Shapiro did an interview with a scientist who has come to the conclusion that it CAN'T be an accident. Some of it was a little over my head, but the gist of it was that mathematically, the chance that the universe and life on Earth arising by chance is basically impossible.

Was pretty interesting.

Alternatively, it could just be that there are an infinite number of universes and therefore the universe we live in and life on Earth as we know MUST arise in at least some of them.

Either way, shit will indeed make your head spin. Especially if you are ingesting certain chemicals.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 4:47:48 PM EDT
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Remember, Donal Trump and white capitalists control the distance between the sun and the earth.

-Climate change activists
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Some notes: do the math, let us know.

Five million years ago, when humanity's ancestors were just learning to walk upright, a star was ejected from Sagittarius A*, the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way Galaxy, at a staggering 3.7 million mph. This month, a group of researchers spotted the superfast star traveling relatively close to Earth.

Researchers, led by Sergey Koposov of Carnegie Mellon University's McWilliams Center for Cosmology as part of the Southern Stellar Stream Spectroscopic Survey (S5), spotted the star — known as S5-HVS1 — in the constellation Grus. According to a press release Tuesday, the star was traveling at just 29,000 light-years away from Earth, or "practically next door by astronomical standards."
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 4:58:03 PM EDT
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Skimmed the thread. Anyone post timeline of the universe yet?

That is by far the best universe related content I've ever seen.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:03:13 PM EDT
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Some notes: do the math, let us know.

Five million years ago, when humanity's ancestors were just learning to walk upright, a star was ejected from Sagittarius A*, the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way Galaxy, at a staggering 3.7 million mph. This month, a group of researchers spotted the superfast star traveling relatively close to Earth.

Researchers, led by Sergey Koposov of Carnegie Mellon University's McWilliams Center for Cosmology as part of the Southern Stellar Stream Spectroscopic Survey (S5), spotted the star — known as S5-HVS1 — in the constellation Grus. According to a press release Tuesday, the star was traveling at just 29,000 light-years away from Earth, or "practically next door by astronomical standards."
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29k ly from earth is not next door. The closest star is only about 4ly from us.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:04:48 PM EDT
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And you might equally counter that amongst the billions of planets, we know of only one where life worked out a way.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:05:15 PM EDT
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If ever anyone needed proof . . . the universe:  there you go.

I got faith.
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Is it faith, or is it proof? The two are NOT the same.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:12:03 PM EDT
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And Jesus never said "Don't masturbate."
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How do you know that?
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:12:42 PM EDT
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And there are probably more where the light hasn’t reached us yet
There is a diagram of our Galaxy that shows how far our radio transmissions have reached.  It is just an insignificant distance in the scheme of things
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I’d like to see that if you can post it.  Thx!
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:19:02 PM EDT
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Just think most of the stars in those galaxies probably have supernova already. Just think that light took 100s if millions of years to reach us
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A star needs to be 3x as large as our Sun (or larger) to go supernova.most stars are smaller than our sun. Most are actually red dwarfs.

So I respectfully disagree with your assessment that most have gone supernova.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:21:10 PM EDT
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No. Recreating the body would NOT recreate the memory. If you 1000 years later build a computer with the exact type of components from one 1000 years previous, the computer would be functionable, but there would be no data.

DNA does not store memory.
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You read too much into it homie. It was a hypothetical to discuss the idea of nothingness with the OP.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:23:53 PM EDT
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A star needs to be 3x as large as our Sun (or larger) to go supernova.most stars are smaller than our sun. Most are actually red dwarfs.

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8-10x larger than our sun to produce a type II supernova.

My degree is in general sciences with 2 years of astronomy.

It is for most part a useless degree for my career but hey I did it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:28:33 PM EDT
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shitty channel or not, the odds of developing life independently out of chemicals is staggering
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A channel full of pseudoscience. No thanks.
shitty channel or not, the odds of developing life independently out of chemicals is staggering
Is it? Every Planet we've checked has life on it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:29:51 PM EDT
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Is it? Every Planet we've checked has life on it.
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Ummm...
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:37:10 PM EDT
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Is it? Every Planet we've checked has life on it.
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A channel full of pseudoscience. No thanks.
shitty channel or not, the odds of developing life independently out of chemicals is staggering
Is it? Every Planet we've checked has life on it.
even with all our most scienceing prowness we can't create life but you think a stupid planet can?
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:43:01 PM EDT
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Quantum entanglement blows my mind
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G=8pT
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Is it? Every Planet we've checked has life on it.
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Wut
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:45:46 PM EDT
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How do you know that?
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And Jesus never said "Don't masturbate."
How do you know that?
  Ok, there is no record of Jesus saying that.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 6:30:50 PM EDT
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Isn't it amazing how it all just works? One little hiccup and we are all dead.

Whose to say the sun will be there when we wake up in the morning?
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It's possible but not very likely that the sun will disappear overnight.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 6:39:21 PM EDT
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I'll also add two comments:

1.  In an infinite universe anything can happen, and the corollary;
2. In an infinite universe everything MUST happen.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 6:44:19 PM EDT
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And to all those talking about probabilities and statistics, just what are the odds that intelligent life would develop on a plant circling a star, and the planet would just happen to have a moon who's apparent angular diameter just matches that of the star, when viewed from the planet?

I'll say the odds are 100%, because it did happen.

DSC_9161-DSC_5970 Sun and Moon by FredMan, on Flickr

Eclipse 600mm Full Sequence_ by FredMan, on Flickr
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The odds are 1:1.  All we can say is that there was a 100% chance of it working, because it worked.  To say that the odds were any worse would require knowledge of other universes that failed to start under the same circumstances.

Same thing for the development of life on Earth. Until we find other Earth-analogous planets that are devoid of life, we can assume that there is a 100% chance of life developing on planets like ours.  There is no evidence to the contrary.
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I'll never be able to wrap my head around how things work. How we are far enough away from the sun to not fry but at the same time have a sustainable life. How it took 500 million years for the sun to simmer down to the point it's at now. What was there before the universe? And what was there even before that? I get anxiety just thinking about this shit.
And it all happened just perfectly by accident, some would say.  Imagine the odds, that'll boggle your mind even more.
The odds are 1:1.  All we can say is that there was a 100% chance of it working, because it worked.  To say that the odds were any worse would require knowledge of other universes that failed to start under the same circumstances.

Same thing for the development of life on Earth. Until we find other Earth-analogous planets that are devoid of life, we can assume that there is a 100% chance of life developing on planets like ours.  There is no evidence to the contrary.
You're being intentionally daft.
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1.  In an infinite universe anything can happen, and the corollary;
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Florida man steps up to the plate.
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Is it? Every Planet we've checked has life on it.
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Lol, at this point in the game we don't know if life is rare. We've only checked one planet and life blankets that planet, it's found almost everywhere. In fact, places devoid of life on this planet are hard to find.

It is very much a possibility that life is endemic to the universe and that it's not rare at all. We have very very little data on the subject.
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