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Posted: 1/31/2024 3:42:52 PM EST


maybe just lucky..
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 3:46:14 PM EST
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They’ve had plenty of practice
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 3:48:18 PM EST
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And time to upgrade the guidance system and those systems on the targeting arrays.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 3:48:32 PM EST
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I'm guessing just a result of "accuracy through volume".
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 3:52:58 PM EST
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Every attack is an opportunity to gather sigint and refine their platforms to obtain a hit.

Every delay in smashing the source of the attack is aid and comfort.

ETA: there is no political solution with non-state actors. Only violent ones.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 3:55:18 PM EST
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Sounds like we need to send them some missile guidance technology like we did for the Chinese for "peaceful purposes"  Thanks, Bill Clinton
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 3:58:57 PM EST
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They have had a bunch of practice shots -



We could not be so arrogant as to think this wouldn't happen
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:12:11 PM EST
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"Within a mile..."   That's vague, believe it or not.   CIWS score?  Having your CIWS engage is nice, but bad at the same time.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:18:30 PM EST
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OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
According to a U.S. Defense Official the Arleigh Burke-Class Guided-Missile Destroyer, USS Gravely (DDG-107) was forced to use her Phalanx Close-In Weapons Systems (CIWS) last night during a “Close Call” with a Anti-Ship Cruise Missile launched by the Houthi Terrorist Group in Western Yemen; the Cruise Missile is reported to have come within 1 Mile of the Ship likely following a Miss or Malfunction with an SM-2 Interceptor Missile.

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1752790746141213006
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:26:27 PM EST
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Pretty soon there will be more Sailors than Marines walking around with CARs on their ribbon rack.

Why did Biden and the Democrats delist the Houthis as a terrorist organization and berate the Saudis from fighting them?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:31:33 PM EST
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Every attack is an opportunity to gather sigint and refine their platforms to obtain a hit.

Every delay in smashing the source of the attack is aid and comfort.

ETA: there is no political solution with non-state actors. Only violent ones.
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QFT
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:32:44 PM EST
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Sounds like we need to send them some missile guidance technology like we did for the Chinese for "peaceful purposes"  Thanks, Bill Clinton
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like when we sent them 2x bombs to their embassy
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:33:26 PM EST
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No, for once one of the Dupe Dictator Corps got it wrong. This is a new thread.
You and Chokey do such a good job. Carry on.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:34:28 PM EST
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Pretty soon there will be more Sailors than Marines walking around with CARs on their ribbon rack.

Why did Biden and the Democrats delist the Houthis as a terrorist organization and berate the Saudis from fighting them?
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Orange Man Bad.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:35:01 PM EST
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That’s up close and personal
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:42:06 PM EST
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They only need to get lucky once.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:42:23 PM EST
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And time to upgrade the guidance system and those systems on the targeting arrays.
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It's not a one way street. We can learn and improve these systems too based on real world experience.

And we got much better eengineer than they do.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:43:49 PM EST
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"Within a mile..."   That's vague, believe it or not.   CIWS score?  Having your CIWS engage is nice, but bad at the same time.
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Agree. It's great the system worked. Scary it was that close.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:46:56 PM EST
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They already did. They will get lucky.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:47:40 PM EST
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Pretty soon there will be more Sailors than Marines walking around with CARs on their ribbon rack.

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Democrats liking sucking Iranian and Chinese dick.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:49:18 PM EST
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Them getting lucky would guarantee a Trump win. Then they would be very unlucky.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 4:57:06 PM EST
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The lads that were aboard the USS ANTRIM can tell you what happens even when you do successfully engage with your CIWS.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:07:08 PM EST
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The lads that were aboard the USS ANTRIM can tell you what happens even when you do successfully engage with your CIWS.
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You got details?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:08:58 PM EST
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Correct

Was it crossing or on terminal towards the ship?

The difference changes the narrative.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:12:27 PM EST
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Live fire drone shoot for training, damaged drone hits ship, lands in ward room causing a  fire made worse by unburnt fuel from the drone. One civi killed.

https://www.navysite.de/ffg/FFG20.HTM

Is this the first successful use of a Phalanx CIWS from a US warship?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:12:42 PM EST
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Never thought I'd see the us navy driving around as target practice with zero reprisals

Our military personnel mean nothing to this admin
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:13:00 PM EST
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Correct

Was it crossing or on terminal towards the ship?

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A CIWS in auto mode should only shoot things that are a threat to the ship if what I was told is correct.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:15:48 PM EST
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It's not a one way street. We can learn and improve these systems too based on real world experience.

And we got much better eengineer than they do.
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The Chinese engineers that have infested our MIC that immediately send the data back to China so the missiles they sell to terrorists work better?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:16:47 PM EST
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If one of those missiles gets through and scores a hit, biden will retaliate with even sterner language.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:17:10 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:18:00 PM EST
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If it was a Phalanx kill, then either the system failed or the ship’s crew did something wrong.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:20:26 PM EST
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Why are we playing around with these people.?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:23:24 PM EST
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Within 1 mile can mean a lot. Was it 1 mile high, while mile away and in line with, or was in 1 mile off the stern or bow? The in line option means it is in line with the target and 1 mile out when it was destroyed.

Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:28:03 PM EST
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They have had a bunch of practice shots -

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFI9fEiWkAEKCyG?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

We could not be so arrogant as to think this wouldn't happen
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Biden: 'To anyone thinking of taking advantage of the situation, I have one word: don't'

Biden: 'To anyone thinking of taking advantage of the situation, I have one word: don't'
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:31:11 PM EST
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I'm guessing just a result of "accuracy through volume".
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I've always loved this scene.  

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Learn How To Shoot
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:49:16 PM EST
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Against a real life enemy? I think so.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:50:01 PM EST
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SM-2s ain’t perfect, so there will be this types of events. Why they need to fix the problem at the source, much as it pains me to think of HiLuxs getting blown up. But they need to get more aggressive in dealing with the Houthis.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:53:09 PM EST
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Excuse my ignorance, but with all the eyes and technology focused in a small area can't they see a launch fairly early and send a tomahawk response to the launch coordinates?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:54:08 PM EST
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They only have to be lucky once...we have to be perfect 100% of the time. It's just a matter of time before they get lucky.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 5:55:26 PM EST
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They only have to be lucky once...we have to be perfect 100% of the time. It's just a matter of time before they get lucky.
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This…
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:06:33 PM EST
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If it’s true that the SM-2 interceptor missile missed or malfunctioned, that was an expensive failure—just a little north of $2 million if the interwebs are a reasonable ballpark.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:10:36 PM EST
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I'm glad we are deplwtingour inventory of shipboard SAMs instead of glassing the sand cowboys and their suppliers/enablers.

That surely won't bite us in the ass when the real shootemup starts.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:17:32 PM EST
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They are shooting and running
This a job for some SF guys to solve some problems
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:25:52 PM EST
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By being deathly afraid of escalation, this admin has brought us closer and closer to the larger fight they didnt want.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:29:15 PM EST
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Damn, the Carney has been kicking ass.

I wonder if there are some Chinese on that Iranian vessel, surprised they don’t have one of their intel ships there.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:33:36 PM EST
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Perspective for our Infantry brothers;   what happened to this ship was the equivalent of shooting a bad guy with your M9 as he comes over the sandbags of your foxhole.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:39:11 PM EST
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Is counter-battery fire a thing for ballistic missiles? What’s the playbook to counter China’s rocket force? Why aren’t we using it here?

How are they getting (what seems to be) high quality targeting information? Can we get some more EW?

How much talk over the last few years has there been about near-peer warfare? Well, here it is. Let’s get to deterring, because the Houthis don’t seem to be deterred right now.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:40:16 PM EST
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Because, despite what GDers think, the Biden administration is afraid of escalating this with Iran in an election year.

If they were serious about ending these attacks, they'd sink the Iranian ship that's supplying intel to the Houthis. Instead, they'll, seemingly ineffectively, just keep bombing "weapons storage and launch sites" in the desert while the Houthis continue to launch drones and missiles.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:42:43 PM EST
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Wonder how many observers from Russia and China are involved?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 6:56:45 PM EST
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Correct

Was it crossing or on terminal towards the ship?

The difference changes the narrative.
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CWIS doesn't waste its time or ammo on missiles that are not going to hit the hull.

It could have been put into the manual mode and forced to intercept a crossing target but doubtfully.

I have seen target drones pass within 200-300' of the front on a carrier and the CWIS tracked the missile the whole way knowing it wasn't going to hit the ship.
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