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Posted: 8/6/2022 2:42:19 PM EDT
Since nitrogen fertilizers are now an enemy of the planet according to liberals and the World Economic Forum, here's a good documentary about the chemist who created them
The Man Who Killed Millions and Saved Billions |
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When people repeat the words "chemical fertilizer" they are repeating idiocy.
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I keep plowing money into nitrogen fertilizer companies, WEF be damned. Food makes the world happier than owning nothing.
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Quoted: Like water. Chemical fertilizer = assault rifle View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pretty much everything is a chemical. Like water. Chemical fertilizer = assault rifle You mean the industrial solvent Dihydrogen Monoxide, right? That stuff is dangerous. Colorless, odorless, tasteless, and inhalation can cause death. |
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Quoted: That’s like calling it chemical fertilizer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: More accurate to call it synthetic fertilizer. That’s like calling it chemical fertilizer. I call it the stuff that pays my bills, and keeps the rest of the world from starving. |
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It's so weird.
One Nazi made it possible to feed the world. Another Nazi made it possible to leave the world (on rockets). Weird. But Hitler made a hippie car, so...boom!...negates the fuck out of all of that. Fookin' Nazis. |
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Quoted: When people repeat the words "chemical fertilizer" they are repeating idiocy. View Quote |
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Quoted: Saying 'chemical fertilizer' designates that it is not a natural fertilizer such as guano. Before the Haber process there was a massive industry in mining guano from tropical islands as that was about the best source View Quote Technically you are correct, but the world chemical has been corrupted to mean dangerous poisonous or flat out bad in many ways. When in reality these "chemical fertilizers" are the foundation of feeding the entire globe. How about the term modern fertilizer |
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Without Haber Germany war effort would of fell apart way earlier for lack of explosives in WW1. He was very loyal to Germany not putting up with any insult to Germany greatness. Lot of suspicions about his death. Hitler comes to power then Haber has a very well timed heart attack. Could of been a incredible ace in Germany hand but Haber was Jewish.
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Quoted: Quoted: When people repeat the words "chemical fertilizer" they are repeating idiocy. I like to say that nuclear aircraft carriers are all natural. It is true. And I'll stand by that statement. |
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Quoted: You mean the industrial solvent Dihydrogen Monoxide, right? That stuff is dangerous. Colorless, odorless, tasteless, and inhalation can cause death. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: Saying 'chemical fertilizer' designates that it is not a natural fertilizer such as guano. Before the Haber process there was a massive industry in mining guano from tropical islands as that was about the best source View Quote They mined phosphate rock and ground into a powder and used that for phosphorous until they realized that it would be more soluble when reacted with sulfuric acid and then realized they could react phosphoric acid and ground phosphate rock and make GTSP Later they realized i would be complete when they reacted the phosphoric acid with anhydrous ammonia to make MAP and DAP |
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A story driven by an agenda for synthetic meats and bug paste.
They don't vilify Einstein in the same way, convincing America to enter into the arms race to build the first atomic bomb. I don't think many people get to the end of their life and not have something they wish they hadn't done. We often say the difference between a hero and a villain is the winner who writes the history book. Would he be portrayed as such if he was British or American? But fertilizer is bad. Get rid of it and embrace the fallacy that we can grow enough food in our backyards to sustain ourselves. Might had been able to make that turn 50 years ago, but you're a long way from convincing the current generation to leave easy air conditioned jobs and go toil in the dirt. |
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Quoted: They mined phosphate rock and ground into a powder and used that for phosphorous until they realized that it would be more soluble when reacted with sulfuric acid and then realized they could react phosphoric acid and ground phosphate rock and make GTSP Later they realized i would be complete when they reacted the phosphoric acid with anhydrous ammonia to make MAP and DAP View Quote Don't forget APP for us liquid fans |
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“Saved billions” to… die of something else?
Or even just saved parents who had more offspring who then were beyond the (newly expanded) capacity of the land. I haven’t really sat down and done the math, but I wonder. |
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Here's a guy that fed millions, despite opposition and even sabotage by the authorities.
Yet most people have never heard of him. Norman Borlaug |
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Quoted: Here's a guy that fed millions, despite opposition and even sabotage by the authorities. Yet most people have never heard of him. Norman Borlaug View Quote Borlaug in next on the list. Don't think they'll let that one slide. Especially once they figure out he did a lot of his work while in Texas. |
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Quoted: A story driven by an agenda for synthetic meats and bug paste. They don't vilify Einstein in the same way, convincing America to enter into the arms race to build the first atomic bomb. I don't think many people get to the end of their life and not have something they wish they hadn't done. We often say the difference between a hero and a villain is the winner who writes the history book. Would he be portrayed as such if he was British or American? But fertilizer is bad. Get rid of it and embrace the fallacy that we can grow enough food in our backyards to sustain ourselves. Might had been able to make that turn 50 years ago, but you're a long way from convincing the current generation to leave easy air conditioned jobs and go toil in the dirt. View Quote There are lots of youtube videos with younger people quitting their rat race jobs to start permaculture, small scale farming, etc due to the enjoyment and rewarding nature of that work. They create content on YouTube so that helps their incomes, but it is definitely a trend to a certain degree. |
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Quoted: It's so weird. One Nazi made it possible to feed the world. Another Nazi made it possible to leave the world (on rockets). Weird. But Hitler made a hippie car, so...boom!...negates the fuck out of all of that. Fookin' Nazis. View Quote Are you saying Fritz Haber was a National Socialist or is this a reference to someone else? |
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Quoted: Here's a guy that fed millions, despite opposition and even sabotage by the authorities. Yet most people have never heard of him. Norman Borlaug View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: Same. It seems that people have heard that “fertilizer is made from oil!” so often that they think it’s a fact. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I call it the stuff that pays my bills, and keeps the rest of the world from starving. Same. It seems that people have heard that “fertilizer is made from oil!” so often that they think it’s a fact. Wait. People think that? I mean, I know fertilizers arent all made of chicken or cow shit....but oil? What? |
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Quoted: Nothing synthetic about it. 100% natural. I have produced 100's of thousands of tons of DAP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Nothing synthetic about it. 100% natural. I have produced 100's of thousands of tons of DAP. Quoted: Quoted: More accurate to call it synthetic fertilizer. That’s like calling it chemical fertilizer. Where do you harvest it in the wild? |
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It's funny how the last few years seem to have taken notes from The Last Centurion.
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Quoted: I think it’s more of an “ATM Machine” thing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: When people repeat the words "chemical fertilizer" they are repeating idiocy. I think it’s more of an “ATM Machine” thing. That would be a killer EDM band name. |
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Quoted: Wait. People think that? I mean, I know fertilizers aren't all made of chicken or cow shit....but oil? What? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I call it the stuff that pays my bills, and keeps the rest of the world from starving. Same. It seems that people have heard that “fertilizer is made from oil!” so often that they think it’s a fact. Wait. People think that? I mean, I know fertilizers aren't all made of chicken or cow shit....but oil? What? Chemical plants react natural gas and water to produce the hydrogen to needed to feed into the Haber-Bosh process to produce ammonia. So no, oil isn't used but natural gas from the oil fields is used. |
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Quoted: Phosphate rock is mined in Central FL, ammonia is pulled from natural gas. Pot ash is mined. That is pulling it out from the wild as you can get. View Quote No, I didn’t ask where you get the materials to synthesize nitrogen fertilizer from. I asked where you harvest nitrogen fertilizer in the wild. |
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Quoted: No, I didn’t ask where you get the materials to synthesize nitrogen fertilizer from. I asked where you harvest nitrogen fertilizer in the wild. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Phosphate rock is mined in Central FL, ammonia is pulled from natural gas. Pot ash is mined. That is pulling it out from the wild as you can get. No, I didn’t ask where you get the materials to synthesize nitrogen fertilizer from. I asked where you harvest nitrogen fertilizer in the wild. N comes from the air. Banditman has moved on to P and K which is mined from the earth. Then there is S which actually kind of is a product of oil production or by product from sour gas. Then there is melorganite, that is human shit. |
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