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Posted: 8/24/2020 2:03:58 PM EDT
Suppose the Ouija Dog tells his handler that there's dope in your car or that your Camry is, in fact, a car - the signals are practically identical - and the officer conducts a cursory search of your vehicle (he only slits one side of each bucket seat and looks under the upholstery from the side instead of slitting both sides and looking down from the top). When he looks down at the pile of crap he has tossed from your trunk into the emergency lane, he sees your braced AR pistol. My legal question is this: How many days do you spend on the P Farm before the Magistrate comes through while riding his circuit and agrees with the deputy that your pistol is in fact an SBR and you should be held without bond until the Court of Assizes sits at the county seat next June?
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Braces are pretty common at this point on short AR pistols. I'd expect most LEO at this point are aware of them.
Now wither or not he wants to be a jerk and screw you knowing it won't stick but will put you through hell, that's another matter. So moral of the story is don't be a prick to the man with the badge, and you'll probably be fine so far as your municipality doesn't have a problem with braces. But I'm not a lawyer. |
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So you’re going to get pulled over, have a dog alert falsely for drugs and get falsely imprisoned for an AR pistol mistaken for an SBR?
Do I have that right? If so, LOL Paranoid much? |
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It's a hell of a lot easier to legally have a ccw and an AR pistol in your car than an SBR.
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I’ve been told I’m too cavalier in my personal life but I don’t fret such things
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Quoted:My legal question is this: How many days do you spend on the P Farm before the Magistrate comes through while riding his circuit and agrees with the deputy that your pistol is in fact an SBR and you should be held without bond until the Court of Assizes sits at the county seat next June? View Quote What century are you posting from? |
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How many posts have there been on ARFCOM about folks getting arrested for an AR pistol?
That's your answer. Lots of cops are going the pistol route to avoid the $200 tax stamp. |
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This fantastical scenario would go on an extremely long list of things I'm not worried about.
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I would rather shoot the shit with you about firearms seeing how I myself have multiple 10.5 and 11.5 AR pistols.
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Leave the brace at home then.
You wont feel the buffer tube digging in if you really need the pistol. |
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Ill take an AR pistol over the SBR any day. I dont have to ask for a permission slip to take it out of state.
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Buy a factory made AR pistol and print out the manufacturer's web-page on the model to carry with you. Also print out the BATF letter on the particular brace chosen if it has one.
http://shop.bravocompanymfg.com/BCM-RECCE-11-MCMR-PISTOL-AR15-w-SBA3-Brace-p/bcm-pistol-610-850-sba.htm If Officer Roomtie Eyecue puts you in jail after seeing all that evidence of legality, put your JD to work and make his life miserable. |
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I dunno I got a DUI once and they couldnt of gave a fuck less about the SBR in the trunk
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I remember my first drunk post. Ah the memories.
If I was you, OP, I wouldn't leave the warmth and comfort of your mom's basement. Hibernate, eat your hearts content of pizza rolls, and laugh maniacally at the thought of some other milk drinker getting pounded by the PD. |
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Well, since it is a pistol OP could avoid this if he has his permit and carries his pistol holstered. Next option is to just take the holster off his belt and leave his pistol in its holster and place it in the center console or glove box.
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I think with the commonality of firearms in vehicals, I would they'd be more worried about other stuff.
The only exception is maybe a supressor, that might get a second look. |
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You might wanna lay off the caffeine Op... Or not drive around with a bag of blow in your camry
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Unless you are being an asshole, my guess is that they might ask you were you got your brace, and how do you like it?
CCW + braced AR pistol = |
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Quoted: Suppose the Ouija Dog tells his handler that there's dope in your car or that your Camry is, in fact, a car - the signals are practically identical - and the officer conducts a cursory search of your vehicle (he only slits one side of each bucket seat and looks under the upholstery from the side instead of slitting both sides and looking down from the top). When he looks down at the pile of crap he has tossed from your trunk into the emergency lane, he sees your braced AR pistol. My legal question is this: How many days do you spend on the P Farm before the Magistrate comes through while riding his circuit and agrees with the deputy that your pistol is in fact an SBR and you should be held without bond until the Court of Assizes sits at the county seat next June? View Quote Dude, I don't know what your smoking, but stop! For the love of all that is Holy, stop, and back away. Seriously though, that isn't something I have never, and never will, worry about. |
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I'm pretty sure that only the feds can enforce a NFA violation, anyway.
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Most probably don't even know the difference between a rifle, sbr and a pisol anyway
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My Ar pistols don't have braces and it hasn't been an issue. shrug
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I would guess that most law enforcement officers are not really up to speed on the NFA in the first place.
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Imagine waking up every morning and being this scared or paranoid.
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Quoted: I'm pretty sure that only the feds can enforce a NFA violation, anyway. View Quote Lots of state laws mirror the NFA. Most of my co-workers when I was a cop, could stare at an SBR or an AR pistol and not question it. A sawed off shotgun or maybe even a 500 Shockwave? You're getting a ride. Cops aren't gun savvy at all.. lol. |
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Quoted: Buy a factory made AR pistol and print out the manufacturer's web-page on the model to carry with you. Also print out the BATF letter on the particular brace chosen if it has one. http://shop.bravocompanymfg.com/BCM-RECCE-11-MCMR-PISTOL-AR15-w-SBA3-Brace-p/bcm-pistol-610-850-sba.htm If Officer Roomtie Eyecue puts you in jail after seeing all that evidence of legality, put your JD to work and make his life miserable. View Quote LOL nope. How about just live your fucking life and stop worrying about this kind of stupid shit? |
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What if you're pulled over by a cop that doesn't know the Assault Weapons Ban expired in 2004 and he locks you up for having 15 round mags in your handgun?
OP's scenario has about the same likelihood of occurring. |
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Quoted: Lots of state laws mirror the NFA. Most of my co-workers when I was a cop, could stare at an SBR or an AR pistol and not question it. A sawed off shotgun or maybe even a 500 Shockwave? You're getting a ride. Lol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm pretty sure that only the feds can enforce a NFA violation, anyway. Lots of state laws mirror the NFA. Most of my co-workers when I was a cop, could stare at an SBR or an AR pistol and not question it. A sawed off shotgun or maybe even a 500 Shockwave? You're getting a ride. Lol. So that's why Aimless keeps a Shockwave on his dashboard. Kharn |
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Quoted: EFile Form 1 takes about 20-30 days It’s a no brainer View Quote It’s a no brainer if you don’t have a brain. In my state, a concealed carry permit doesn’t allow you to conceal an SBR, it’s why I didn’t SBR my 300BLK pistol. You don’t need permission to take a pistol across state lines. Someone who isn’t on my trust can use a pistol. Etc. |
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Quoted: So that's why Aimless keeps a Shockwave on his dashboard. Kharn View Quote In all reality, I'd imagine calls would be made on-scene, to another officer who actually knows. I've been called before over a Shockwave 500 and had to educate an officer on them. Person went to jail because they had a warrant tho. |
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Look man, you worry too much okay? Its like i'm listening to my sister's kids or sumpthin..
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Quoted: How many posts have there been on ARFCOM about folks getting arrested for an AR pistol? That's your answer. Lots of cops are going the pistol route to avoid the $200 tax stamp. View Quote Not only that...some depts were supplying them also I doubt many even know SBRs require a stamp, only see an AR there |
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Two, because the difference between a duck is that one leg is shorter.
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Quoted: I'm pretty sure that only the feds can enforce a NFA violation, anyway. View Quote NFA itself, yes. State laws which prohibit the same thing are fair game. |
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