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Posted: 6/22/2023 1:58:04 AM EDT
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Reality check? The reason they haven't been found is because the sub imploded...days ago. I think this is their guess too and putting on a good show.
The sounds that were heard every 30 minutes is a BS report. They heard sounds but not from the sub. French ship arrived today to help with the rescue, but apparently has already surrendered to Spain. No shocker there. RIP |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:00:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reality check? The reason they haven't been found is because the sub imploded...days ago. I think this is their guess too and putting on a good show. The sounds that were heard every 30 minutes is a BS report. They heard sounds but not from the sub. French ship arrived today to help with the rescue, but apparently has already surrendered to Spain. No shocker there. RIP 5 SAR ships are zig zagging now trying to located the Titan. They have no clue where she is. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:04:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The noise being heard is not any person. Even my wife pointed out that if someone in that sub was trying to signal, they'd bang out - - - Everyone knows this bit of morse code.  |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:04:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the SAR boats have no idea where to look. Talk about a needle in a haystack… Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzMx138XwAAZCe6?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzM1GGFX0AA-LQp?format=jpg&name=large
A bit too late, I'm afraid. Fantastic effort to get there and be of help, but even if they get Nautile in the water in the next 15 minutes, I fear there just isn't enough time at this point. Takes 2 hours to get it down there. Getting it down there by 4AM would be a Titanic effort (no pun intended), if they ran into the sub within in hour, they'd only have like 2 hours to get it up and open. Not to mention it might not even be on the bottom, but drifted outside comms range if it was unable to surface. I still cant believe how rudimentary the comms set up was. This thing was a death trap if even a moderate emergency occurred. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:05:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope cause it would be instant.... No suffering just a blink.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At 6500 psi. Can you imagine 3 tons on your testicles? What a horrible way to die. 33 degree internal temps, possible darkness, horrible breathing conditions, no food, no water, possibly drinking urine, putrid smells, no room to lie down or stand up - fuck all. That is if the hull is breached. If they lost power, it would be a slow, horrid death. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:07:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coast Guard provides detailed map showing massive area rescuers have scoured searching for banging sounds and missing Titan sub with five trapped crew members who went to visit Titanic wreckage The search area has now expanded to around 14,000 square miles - twice the size of the state of Connecticut. The US Coast Guard has released a new graphic map detailing their massive search pattern in the hunt for the missing Titanic submersible. The image, released Wednesday night, showed the area above the shipwreck, marked with a large red X, and the areas surveyed by the joint rescue efforts of The Canadian Coast Guard boat John Cabot, commercial vessels Skandi Vinland and the Atlantic Merlin and a Coast Guard C-130 crew also arrived on scene to continue searching. The update also stated that several other assets were mobilizing to help with the increasingly desperate search. Among those are the Canadian CGS Ann Harvey, Canadian CGS Terry Fox, Motor Vessel Horizon Arctic (ROV), French Research Vessel L'Atalante (ROV). https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/22/05/72400245-12221401-The_image_shows_the_area_above_the_shipwreck_marked_with_a_large-a-17_1687407009237.jpg The image shows the area above the shipwreck, marked with a large red X, and the areas surveyed by the joint rescue efforts In addition, His Majesty's Canadian Ship Glace Bay, which is a mobile decompression chamber and medical personnel, the Air National Guard C-130 and ROV from Magellan will also join the efforts. 'The Navy is sending subject matter experts and a Flyaway Deep Ocean Salvage System (FADOSS), a motion-compensated lift system designed to provide reliable deep ocean lifting capacity for the recovery of large, bulky, and heavy undersea objects such as aircraft or small vessels, from Navy Supervisor of Salvage' the press release said. 'Expertise and equipment will support the unified command.' https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/22/05/72399917-12221401-The_new_pattern_above_shows_searches_completed_on_Wednesday_coma-a-14_1687407009233.jpg The new pattern (above) shows searches completed on Wednesday, compared with the search area covered by Tuesday (below) Link I wonder if the USN has any subs in the area to help. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:08:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is if the hull is breached. If they lost power, it would be a slow, horrid death. Hypothermia would get them. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:10:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hypothermia would get them. That would qualify as a slow, shitty death.  |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:10:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The noise being heard is not any person. Even my wife pointed out that if someone in that sub was trying to signal, they'd bang out - - - Everyone knows this bit of morse code. I typed out dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot. Did it not show up? |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I typed out dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot. Did it not show up? I see 3 dashes |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:19:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see 3 dashes O face |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:19:14 AM EDT
[#12]
Not sure if it's already been posted, but if it hasn't then it's worth digging back up.
 My Heart Will Go On - Recorder By Candlelight by Matt Mulholland |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:22:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the USN has any subs in the area to help. I think I saw something posted a few pages back that had a list of all the ships in the area. I was surprised to see that there wasn't a USN ship there. Lots of Canadian stuff, but not USN. List/chart could have been wrong though |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:24:09 AM EDT
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I thought they tracked this thing from the surface with side scan sonar completely through the mission. That’s how they let the crew know where to drive the thing to end up at the right spot.
I keep hearing they lost comms with the sub but no one brings up the side scan tracking. Even with no comms they should know exactly where it is via the side scan sonar tracking. If the ship lost the tracking via sonar AND the comms at the same time then it likely imploded. What an I missing here? |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:26:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought they tracked this thing from the surface with side scan sonar completely through the mission. That’s how they let the crew know where to drive the thing to end up at the right spot. I keep hearing they lost comms with the sub but no one brings up the side scan tracking. Even with no comms they should know exactly where it is via the side scan sonar tracking. If the ship lost the tracking via sonar AND the comms at the same time then it likely imploded. What an I missing here? Guessing it relied on pings from the propane tank |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:26:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought they tracked this thing from the surface with side scan sonar completely through the mission. That’s how they let the crew know where to drive the thing to end up at the right spot. I keep hearing they lost comms with the sub but no one brings up the side scan tracking. Even with no comms they should know exactly where it is via the side scan sonar tracking. If the ship lost the tracking via sonar AND the comms at the same time then it likely imploded. What an I missing here? Not much, your theory is wired tight. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:28:17 AM EDT
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 'We were hoping this wasn't going to happen': expert says industry had concerns about Titan |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:29:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guessing it relied on pings from the propane tank Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought they tracked this thing from the surface with side scan sonar completely through the mission. That’s how they let the crew know where to drive the thing to end up at the right spot. I keep hearing they lost comms with the sub but no one brings up the side scan tracking. Even with no comms they should know exactly where it is via the side scan sonar tracking. If the ship lost the tracking via sonar AND the comms at the same time then it likely imploded. What an I missing here? Guessing it relied on pings from the propane tank Ah makes sense. The sub has to ping the surface ship so the sonar can see it ? Reason 984738377283227587 not to get bolted in that thing. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:31:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guessing it relied on pings from the propane tank Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought they tracked this thing from the surface with side scan sonar completely through the mission. That’s how they let the crew know where to drive the thing to end up at the right spot. I keep hearing they lost comms with the sub but no one brings up the side scan tracking. Even with no comms they should know exactly where it is via the side scan sonar tracking. If the ship lost the tracking via sonar AND the comms at the same time then it likely imploded. What an I missing here? Guessing it relied on pings from the propane tank Ah makes sense. The sub has to ping the surface ship so the sonar can see it ? Reason 984738377283227587 not to get bolted in that thing. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:44:01 AM EDT
[#20]
A Fish finder should be able to see this thing if its 1. Not imploded or 2. Not sitting on the bottom.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:49:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah makes sense. The sub has to ping the surface ship so the sonar can see it ? Reason 984738377283227587 not to get bolted in that thing. We can track sharks in the sea but the hobby shop toy can’t be found… damn. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:51:44 AM EDT
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Well, there's some more irony for you. Apparently, the wife of the Oceangate CEO is descended from Titanic victims (great-great grandaughter of Macy's founder).
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Posted: 6/22/2023 2:59:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, there's some more irony for you. Apparently, the wife of the Oceangate CEO is descended from Titanic victims (great-great grandaughter of Macy's founder). I was floored when I read that earlier. Unbelievable, really, to have someone involved with this be a descendent of Isidor and Ida Straus. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 3:02:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some information from reddit r/submarines https://www.sonardyne.com/case-studies/surveying-the-titanic-with-ranger-2-and-avtrak-6/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/14df37k/comment/joqfaso/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 The BBC doc you got to pay to watch that one.  Journey to the World's Most Famous Shipwreck | Take Me to Titanic | BBC Select |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 3:05:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I typed out dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot. Did it not show up? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The noise being heard is not any person. Even my wife pointed out that if someone in that sub was trying to signal, they'd bang out - - - Everyone knows this bit of morse code. I typed out dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot. Did it not show up? come on man use common sense, it doesnt have to be morse code... any banging will do... as the whole world knows they are down there, and if anyone is alive the banging is enough to let rescuers know they are, just because its not in morse code does not mean its NOT them.. come on now, stop it,
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Posted: 6/22/2023 3:06:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySums it up. Place for experimental, but not for taking people that pay. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 3:11:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: come on man use common sense, it doesnt have to be morse code... any banging will do... as the whole world knows they are down there, and if anyone is alive the banging is enough to let rescuers know they are, just because its not in morse code does not mean its NOT them.. come on now, stop it,It should however be something that can be easily distinguishable from the noise from the wreck. How about this:  Beethoven V For Victory That’s what the survivors tapped in ‘A Fall of Moondust’ |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 3:12:24 AM EDT
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Even the Expedition Unknown guy refused to do a Titanic episode with it.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 3:57:16 AM EDT
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Time lapse video of the positions of the search ships arriving at the site for the past 48 hours.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 4:03:33 AM EDT
[#30]
Middle-aged white male CEO of the sub company says "Middle-aged white men need not apply." In a Twist of irony he's one of the people on this missing sub
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Posted: 6/22/2023 4:05:02 AM EDT
[#31]
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Posted: 6/22/2023 4:22:46 AM EDT
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"When you're in the middle of a search-and-rescue case, you always have hope," Coast Guard Captain Jamie Frederick said at a press conference on Wednesday. "With respect to the noises specifically, we don't know what they are."
The Coast Guard said deployments of remote-controlled underwater search vehicles were redirected to the vicinity where the noises were detected, to no avail, and officials cautioned that the sounds may not have originated from the Titan. Frederick added that analysis of the sonar buoy data was "inconclusive." https://www.reuters.com/world/search-intensifies-titanic-sub-with-only-hours-oxygen-left-2023-06-22/ |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 4:38:33 AM EDT
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I wonder if there's even anything left to find. Do we know how carbon fiber reacts to this kind of implosion at these pressures? A maelstrom of molecules suddenly accelerated from zero to XXX, pressure combustion... there may be nothing left but carbon fiber slivers and a few motor windings.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 4:54:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What can tell you about this thread is it has made me dust off my VHS copy of The Abyss. And before you make fun of me, yes I do have a working VHS tape deck. I still have one too. There’s still a lot of really great porn out there that hasn’t made it’s way to digital. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 4:55:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if there's even anything left to find. Do we know how carbon fiber reacts to this kind of implosion at these pressures? A maelstrom of molecules suddenly accelerated from zero to XXX, pressure combustion... there may be nothing left but carbon fiber slivers and a few motor windings. The titanium hemispherical ends will make it along with most metal components. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 4:56:46 AM EDT
[#36]
so one hour away from 0% Oxygen.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 5:17:12 AM EDT
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Appears the Atalante made it to the site just now and is on top of the wreck.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 5:20:33 AM EDT
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I can get past the use of a gaming controller and maybe even the shitty exterior exposed wire looms.
But I can't understand the use of what looks like tiny 3/8" cap bolts, the spacing of the bolts and the extremely tiny O ring used on the nose hatch.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 5:26:33 AM EDT
[#39]
At least they can’t blame 50 year old white guys for the design.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 5:33:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: come on man use common sense, it doesnt have to be morse code... any banging will do... as the whole world knows they are down there, and if anyone is alive the banging is enough to let rescuers know they are, just because its not in morse code does not mean its NOT them.. come on now, stop it, |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 5:34:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2023 5:43:45 AM EDT
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Game over man, game over. Say some words, pack up, and time to go home.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 5:49:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the USN has any subs in the area to help. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Coast Guard provides detailed map showing massive area rescuers have scoured searching for banging sounds and missing Titan sub with five trapped crew members who went to visit Titanic wreckage The search area has now expanded to around 14,000 square miles - twice the size of the state of Connecticut. The US Coast Guard has released a new graphic map detailing their massive search pattern in the hunt for the missing Titanic submersible. The image, released Wednesday night, showed the area above the shipwreck, marked with a large red X, and the areas surveyed by the joint rescue efforts of The Canadian Coast Guard boat John Cabot, commercial vessels Skandi Vinland and the Atlantic Merlin and a Coast Guard C-130 crew also arrived on scene to continue searching. The update also stated that several other assets were mobilizing to help with the increasingly desperate search. Among those are the Canadian CGS Ann Harvey, Canadian CGS Terry Fox, Motor Vessel Horizon Arctic (ROV), French Research Vessel L'Atalante (ROV). https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/22/05/72400245-12221401-The_image_shows_the_area_above_the_shipwreck_marked_with_a_large-a-17_1687407009237.jpg The image shows the area above the shipwreck, marked with a large red X, and the areas surveyed by the joint rescue efforts In addition, His Majesty's Canadian Ship Glace Bay, which is a mobile decompression chamber and medical personnel, the Air National Guard C-130 and ROV from Magellan will also join the efforts. 'The Navy is sending subject matter experts and a Flyaway Deep Ocean Salvage System (FADOSS), a motion-compensated lift system designed to provide reliable deep ocean lifting capacity for the recovery of large, bulky, and heavy undersea objects such as aircraft or small vessels, from Navy Supervisor of Salvage' the press release said. 'Expertise and equipment will support the unified command.' https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/22/05/72399917-12221401-The_new_pattern_above_shows_searches_completed_on_Wednesday_coma-a-14_1687407009233.jpg The new pattern (above) shows searches completed on Wednesday, compared with the search area covered by Tuesday (below) Link I wonder if the USN has any subs in the area to help. Navy subs don't go anywhere close to the depth the Titanic is at Not any real hope at this point of finding anyone alive, hopefully it happened in an instant and they didn't suffer for days. If the thing is intact and at the bottom of the sea it'll never be found unless it's at the actual Titanic wreck site, and even then it's far from a certainty. If it's bobbing on the surface it'll presumably eventually wash up somewhere, and I don't want to be there to smell it when they open it up. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 5:57:02 AM EDT
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Sounds like that thing was a death trap based on what I have seen posted. Those folks are deceased for sure. That company has a lot of liability.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:00:01 AM EDT
[#45]
I'm guessing a press conference is bound to happen sometime this morning.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:10:46 AM EDT
[#46]
Titanic 2
Rich people 0 |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:11:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was a submarine nuke  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You're having a dick measuring contest on possibly the nerdiest thing humanly possible btw. Just for a little context If they aren't they end up mooshed in a crushed up tube next to the titanic. I was a submarine nuke The nerdiest of us all! |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:14:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: so one hour away from 0% Oxygen. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77917/Screenshot_20230622_053227_Gallery_jpg-2860008.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:17:52 AM EDT
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I'd hoped to see some positive news about this situation when I got up this morning. After reading the last five pages it seems it's a wrap.
RIP to the people who perished in the experimental submersible Titan. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:19:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought they tracked this thing from the surface with side scan sonar completely through the mission. That’s how they let the crew know where to drive the thing to end up at the right spot. I keep hearing they lost comms with the sub but no one brings up the side scan tracking. Even with no comms they should know exactly where it is via the side scan sonar tracking. If the ship lost the tracking via sonar AND the comms at the same time then it likely imploded. What an I missing here? My bet is that 1- The viewport failed, 2- The thing imploded, 3- The above happened, and they’re drifting somewhere, perhaps even on the surface (unless they have a beacon for such a scenario?), 4- They had a fire and they’ve all burned or succumbed to smoke. But only #2 or 3 seemingly would explain being lost to sonar. |
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