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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:22:39 PM EST
[#1]
Opioid epidemic is fake news.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:26:27 PM EST
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:26:28 PM EST
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Opioid epidemic is fake news. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:27:32 PM EST
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The only thing that will stop that shit is when all the users are dead
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:28:17 PM EST
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lol hot bi gun thread.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:29:31 PM EST
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Opioid epidemic is fake news. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:29:56 PM EST
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Bathhouse Barry promoted it, but Dubya was the first big importer. Give credit where due.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:31:11 PM EST
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Their body their choice?
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:32:24 PM EST
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The only thing that will stop that shit is when all the users are dead |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:34:49 PM EST
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I'm sick and tired of people blaming "Big Pharma" and Doctors for this heroin mess.
The vast majority of addicts I come across on a daily basis took opioids recreationaly or without a script. They didn't think they'd get hooked but they wanted that escape. They knew what they were getting into and most were already abusing some other substance. It's just a blame game so these vagrant addicts are victims, and yet another way for the Gov to get money from big companies |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:35:01 PM EST
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If Trump is successful which I have no doubt here will be, and ends the opioid epidemic does that mean obamas policies started the epidemic?
Good luck. Should be right around the time when Mexico wipes out all the cartels and corruption from their country. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:36:17 PM EST
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Too many rich/middle class white people started dying so now its a crisis. Multiple major surgeries at this point, on heavy shit multiple times for months....taper the fuck off and be done when its time. You will know lol. When the mind fog starts to eclipse the pain levels aka its not worth it anymore then tada stop and move to Tylenol and Nsaids. This is all so much bullshit lol. If anyone is stuck on it, it is because they either 1 are fucked 3 ways from Sunday and are in never ending intense pain and they actually DO need it. Or they are looking for a fix aka abusers. That is it end of story. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:36:54 PM EST
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If not opioids, ‘twill be something else. The flavor of the year is always changing.
I remember a scene from “Gotcha” where Dad thinks his son is on drugs, and is berating him. “Don’t you see how you have stressed out your mother? She’s popping Valiums like M&Ms”. (Paraphrasing, not a quote.). Ironic because Valium was the current, middle class drug everyone was worried about. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:36:56 PM EST
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FPNI
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:37:26 PM EST
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Their body their choice? Why does the Govt have a problem with it? ....lost tax revenue. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:38:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspected as much. Do you believe the 70,000 people actually fell off the edge of the earth? |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:38:56 PM EST
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:40:44 PM EST
[#18]
Just make it legal. I don't want my taxes going to any of this. Its none of the governments buisness.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:40:53 PM EST
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lol hot bi gun thread. And yes, the blind followers suffer from it as much as the blind haters. 
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:41:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspected as much. Do you believe the 70,000 people actually fell off the edge of the earth? |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:43:42 PM EST
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Opioid epidemic is fake news. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:44:15 PM EST
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Opioid epidemic is fake news. The number of people who purposeful hurt themselves in attempts get more opiates on a daily basis is a pretty good indicator that there is in fact a problem with opioid abuse. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:46:55 PM EST
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The Sacklers bribing doctors nationwide for over a decade to peddle their shit while advertising it as "non-addictive" may have had something to do with it.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:48:10 PM EST
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Opioid epidemic is fake news. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:48:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Opioid epidemic is fake news. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:49:53 PM EST
[#26]
NAFTA and offshoring created the opioid crisis.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:52:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you believe the government will reward you for your blind support of their propaganda? 
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:53:34 PM EST
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Stop wasting money trying to save stupid people.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:54:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember him before he got the TDS... And yes, the blind followers suffer from it as much as the blind haters.
Glad you are still with us brother. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:55:35 PM EST
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If Trump is successful which I have no doubt here will be, and ends the opioid epidemic does that mean obamas policies started the epidemic? |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:56:24 PM EST
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Stop wasting money trying to save stupid people. It's a crisis. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:57:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps not surprisingly, your question has no logical meaning. Person #2 ending a crisis does not "mean" that Person #1 started a crisis.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:57:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the .gov announced a vaccine for opioid addiction you would be peeing all over yourself while insisting vaccination should be mandatory. And what does me peeing myself have anything to do with it? Completely unrelated. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:58:06 PM EST
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Stop Narcan abuse.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:58:42 PM EST
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What opioid crisis?
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:59:22 PM EST
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Meanwhile people with legit pain issues can’t get anything prescribed stronger than Ibuprofin.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:59:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Opioid epidemic is fake news. 
Looks like this:  Then perhaps we can have an honest discussion. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:59:43 PM EST
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What opioid crisis? |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:59:56 PM EST
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This might be OP's stupidest thread ever.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:00:50 PM EST
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If Trump is successful which I have no doubt here will be, and ends the opioid epidemic does that mean obamas policies started the epidemic? First, there is no "opioid epidemic". No more so than we have a "handgun epidemic", or a "car epidemic". Using your logic, you should have no problem with the cries to ban assault weapons after the next shooting....I mean, something just has to be done right? People are dying at the hands of these inanimate objects and we need the government to protect us from ourselves....right? There is blood in the streets and it's all because of the guns. We need to ban them and it will surely solve the problem. This time it will surely work!!! Second, anyone who thinks that there will ever be a single inch of progress in the war on drugs has to be completely delusional or just plain fucking stupid. Those are really the only two options at this point. We have been doing this for what....50 years now? And what have we accomplished besides spending trillions of dollars, locking millions of people behind bars, using the WoD as a pretense to create hundreds of new laws that usurp our constitutional rights, and creating a massive black market worth 10's of billions of dollars and all the violent consequences it brings with it? How anyone can still be so dense as to not be able to look at the mountains of empirical data detailing what an utter failure the WoD has been, is absolutely mind numbing. Then, the same people who whine and cry about all of the consequences of this manufactured multi-billion dollar black market are the exact same ones who want to continue with the same policies that have created all these problems!!! It's like living in bizarro world....even the folks who purport to love things like freedom and limited government still can't help themselves from doing their best impersonation of the rabid left and using the exact same liberal logic they claim to despise. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:01:04 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately it is not, I have family in the medical field and it is a very severe issue with people from all walks of life. The number of people who purposeful hurt themselves in attempts get more opiates on a daily basis is a pretty good indicator that there is in fact a problem with opioid abuse. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:01:57 PM EST
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When he's done, maybe he can win the War on Poverty.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:03:55 PM EST
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:05:07 PM EST
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Man I live in a state that is literally ground zero for this shit and it is not a "crisis". Is it noticeable that something is different, well yes of course but it's not a "crisis". Here, the vast, vast, vast majority of the people that are hurt by this are fucking white trash so fuck them, if it wasn't pills then it would have been booze just the booze would have taken longer to kill them ... or the 3 packs of smokes a day .... or the meth ...... or the steady diet of McDonald's .... etc, etc, etc ....
the only reason it's even close to a "crisis" is because we keep bringing these fuckers back to life MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY. This would be the perfect example of a self correcting problem if we'd just let Darwin do his thing ..... I have zero empathy for these people. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:05:19 PM EST
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Unfortunately it is not, I have family in the medical field and it is a very severe issue with people from all walks of life. The number of people who purposeful hurt themselves in attempts get more opiates on a daily basis is a pretty good indicator that there is in fact a problem with opioid abuse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Opioid epidemic is fake news. The number of people who purposeful hurt themselves in attempts get more opiates on a daily basis is a pretty good indicator that there is in fact a problem with opioid abuse. Very good point. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:07:41 PM EST
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Opiate crisis origin: JCAHO—the “Fifth Vital Sign,” under treated pain. Successful lawsuits against MDs who refused to prescribe narcotics inappropriately and the fanciful idea doctors must hand out narcotics based on an arbitrary subjective “Pain Scale” of 1-10 with everyone always 13/10....
We doctors & surgeons are supposed to practice evidence-based medicine, but non-physician administrators come up with the brilliant idea of scoring doctors on patient satisfaction—with part of our payment tied to “happy patients.” You want the “epidemic” to resolve? Let doctors do what their trained to do—follow OBJECTIVE outcomes and not subjective “patient satisfaction” scores where they aren’t “happy” until they get the drugs they feels they deserve. Weak rant, I know. I lived through all this nonsense that started in the early 1990s. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:07:53 PM EST
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I'm sick and tired of people blaming "Big Pharma" and Doctors for this heroin mess. The vast majority of addicts I come across on a daily basis took opioids recreationaly or without a script. They didn't think they'd get hooked but they wanted that escape. They knew what they were getting into and most were already abusing some other substance. It's just a blame game so these vagrant addicts are victims, and yet another way for the Gov to get money from big companies without large scale mega-dose opiod availability, you would not have the current opiod crisis where big-pharma has bee replaced by the mexican cartels and chinese clandestine labs. there was nothing like oxycontin prior to its introduction. drugs like dilaudid and morphine (and dolophine) were rarely prescribed outside of terminal cancer and even those were not available in dosage forms that contained large amounts of an opiod like oxycontin. an 80mg oxycontin tablet is like 16 percodans. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:11:41 PM EST
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The only thing that will stop the "Opioid crisis" is when people have something more important to worry about, like eating. Then.....maybe.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:13:00 PM EST
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You are taking this god-emperor thing a bit too serious.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:15:10 PM EST
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It’s not the drugs—it’s non-medical people who don’t understand risks/benefits with real life.
These are the same knuckleheads who ask “why aren’t we closer to smart-gun technology?” Or, the idea that one more properly-worded law will prevent crime. I don’t understand fanciful delusions—and people with them shouldn’t be allowed to create laws, policies, ad nauseum. |
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