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Link Posted: 4/24/2011 12:23:13 PM EST
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When did you serve in the Ready Eddie?





  1. Was it when the ASROC ignited accidentally and burned up the aft lookout?

  2. Was it when the De-Aerating Feed Tank imploded and killed the engine room crew?

  3. Was it when the officer was shot in the chest/face and killed by a petty officer with a 12ga pump shotgun while returning his weapon to the wardroom small arms locker?

  4. Was it when the hatch support failed, the hatch fell on a sailor coming up the ladder, killing him?

  5. Was it when the BMSN (Son of an active duty captain to boot.) hanged himself from the port boat deck in full view of the rest of Pearl Harbor?  And this happened the day before we sailed to Maui for a dependents cruise-liberty weekend.


  6. Was it when we lost the anchor off of Diamond Head?

  7. Was it when she miserably failed a DNSI, leading to the immediate relief of the CO by the Commodore?


There are more...but they are relatively minor.



I served in her the last year as ASWO and Director 1 officer during non-ASW GQ.  I was there at the end when we put her out of commission.



 




I got curious and googled this


Yea...she had some severe issues.  I've served in "lucky" ships and some with an awful history.  The R. S. Edwards was the worst...ever.



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2011 12:24:54 PM EST
[#2]
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Picking nits here..."they" say, "completely worn out", not that the hull itself was worn out.

When I think of a hull being worn out, I think of things like the problems they were having with the Knox class frigates, people needle-gunning holes in the side of the ship.

"They" do say that she was decom'd three years after the end of her intended service life, so it was obviously time for the old girl to go.  No problem with that.


If other sources are to be believed (#5).
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Link Posted: 4/24/2011 12:31:36 PM EST
[#3]



Quoted:







When did you serve in the Ready Eddie?





  1. Was it when the ASROC ignited accidentally and burned up the aft lookout?

  2. Was it when the De-Aerating Feed Tank imploded and killed the engine room crew?

  3. Was it when the officer was shot in the chest/face and killed by a petty officer with a 12ga pump shotgun while returning his weapon to the wardroom small arms locker?

  4. Was it when the hatch support failed, the hatch fell on a sailor coming up the ladder, killing him?

  5. Was it when the BMSN (Son of an active duty captain to boot.) hanged himself from the port boat deck in full view of the rest of Pearl Harbor?  And this happened the day before we sailed to Maui for a dependents cruise-liberty weekend.


  6. Was it when we lost the anchor off of Diamond Head?

  7. Was it when she miserably failed a DNSI, leading to the immediate relief of the CO by the Commodore?


There are more...but they are relatively minor.



I served in her the last year as ASWO and Director 1 officer during non-ASW GQ.  I was there at the end when we put her out of commission.



 

You must be getting old shipmate - we had this conversation a few years ago when a similar thread was active  None of the above happened when I was aboard her and only heard about #1.  My EAOS happened tail end of her last time in the yards at Pearl.  We did have a non-rate punch a hole with a needle gun, hit a rust patch that went through the skin of the ship in anchor windlass whilst on a tiger cruise to Kauai, an HTFA OD on heroin (lived) in Hong Kong, go DIW after the evaporators failed, salted up the boilers and spent 3 days bobbing in the South China Sea waiting for a tow back to Yokosuka. Haze gray underway








 
Link Posted: 4/24/2011 12:33:02 PM EST
[#4]
First ship, USS PUGET SOUND (AD 38):







My carrier tour, USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT, I was commissioned during this tour:







Last sea tour as AD, USS THE SULLIVANS (DDG 68)







My current ships:



TSV-1 PREVAIL:  







NS HUGO




Link Posted: 4/24/2011 12:37:37 PM EST
[#5]
dupe
Link Posted: 4/24/2011 12:38:37 PM EST
[#6]
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Picking nits here..."they" say, "completely worn out", not that the hull itself was worn out.

When I think of a hull being worn out, I think of things like the problems they were having with the Knox class frigates, people needle-gunning holes in the side of the ship.

"They" do say that she was decom'd three years after the end of her intended service life, so it was obviously time for the old girl to go.  No problem with that.


If other sources are to be believed (#5).


Hard to say for sure....I wasn't there at that time.

But, someone is talking some serious crap about "they had needle gunned through her deck and into the reactor compartment".  Even if they did put a needle gun through her deck at the top hat, they still had three decks to go before they were in the reactor compartment.  My watch station was between the fore and after reactor spaces.

It is just my unsupported memory, and it is worth the electronic paper that it is printed on, but I seem to remember reading that the Navy has a better record with Nuclear power than civilian reactors.


Link Posted: 4/24/2011 1:02:57 PM EST
[#7]
USS Ramage (anagram: MR. SAUSAGE)

just got off this bitch a few months ago. the longest 3 years of my life. this ship is the exact definition of "common sense is secured"


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRURtlGTbxnCWZs5KAPCo7nowWtf05ssB4-1BErl16YzwpNBx8aPw

Link Posted: 4/24/2011 1:26:48 PM EST
[#8]
Not all of us were on ships. I was an AX (Anti-Submarine Warfare Tech) in the VP Navy.




VP-40 P-3C, QE-03, the haunted plane!







 
Link Posted: 4/24/2011 2:02:55 PM EST
[#9]
Yes, not all of us were on ships. I was a CTT2

Link Posted: 4/24/2011 2:47:21 PM EST
[#10]





How was the duty at the site?



I would think that some of the venues would be very nice indeed.  



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2011 2:49:35 PM EST
[#11]



Quoted:





Quoted:






When did you serve in the Ready Eddie?





  1. Was it when the ASROC ignited accidentally and burned up the aft lookout?

  2. Was it when the De-Aerating Feed Tank imploded and killed the engine room crew?

  3. Was it when the officer was shot in the chest/face and killed by a petty officer with a 12ga pump shotgun while returning his weapon to the wardroom small arms locker?

  4. Was it when the hatch support failed, the hatch fell on a sailor coming up the ladder, killing him?

  5. Was it when the BMSN (Son of an active duty captain to boot.) hanged himself from the port boat deck in full view of the rest of Pearl Harbor?  And this happened the day before we sailed to Maui for a dependents cruise-liberty weekend.


  6. Was it when we lost the anchor off of Diamond Head?

  7. Was it when she miserably failed a DNSI, leading to the immediate relief of the CO by the Commodore?


There are more...but they are relatively minor.



I served in her the last year as ASWO and Director 1 officer during non-ASW GQ.  I was there at the end when we put her out of commission.



 

You must be getting old shipmate - we had this conversation a few years ago when a similar thread was active  None of the above happened when I was aboard her and only heard about #1.  My EAOS happened tail end of her last time in the yards at Pearl.  We did have a non-rate punch a hole with a needle gun, hit a rust patch that went through the skin of the ship in anchor windlass whilst on a tiger cruise to Kauai, an HTFA OD on heroin (lived) in Hong Kong, go DIW after the evaporators failed, salted up the boilers and spent 3 days bobbing in the South China Sea waiting for a tow back to Yokosuka. Haze gray underway










 


WE must be getting old shipmate!  



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2011 2:56:47 PM EST
[#12]
<––-not Navy but my Dad was so I'll put up a pic of his old DD from the late 50's and early 60's.

The USS BLUE, DD-744 (Allen M. Sumner class)


Link Posted: 4/24/2011 4:04:07 PM EST
[#13]
Here is my last ship in her final moments.
Link Posted: 4/25/2011 12:31:25 AM EST
[#14]


Link Posted: 4/25/2011 12:59:03 AM EST
[#15]
CVN-72 USS Abraham Lincoln (hitched a ride for 7 months)

Link Posted: 4/25/2011 1:19:13 AM EST
[#16]
Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?

Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.
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("YES, it slices and dices!"––(w,stte), those Vegamatic commercials)
Link Posted: 4/25/2011 9:21:16 AM EST
[#17]
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Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?

Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.
___________________________________________________________________
("YES, it slices and dices!"––(w,stte), those Vegamatic commercials)


Comes down to what you like.  Do you want to know everyone by there first name or have new people to meet all the time with more things to do.  Most of the time small boys don't have 24/7 internet like CVN's.  Do you want to full medical suite on board, or just a doc and a few corpsmen?


They are worlds apart.
Link Posted: 4/25/2011 1:38:32 PM EST
[#18]
My dad's first ship, BB-40, USS New Mexico, 1940:


Transferred to CinCUS Flag allotment as signalman, with duty in the Pearl Harbor Navy Yard signal tower:


Spent 1942-1943 as a signalman attached to CTF 16 flag on Enterprise:


Here Enterprise is receiving their Presidential Unit Citation:


Then he hopped around: Essex, Lexington, Essex, Lexington, Bunker Hill, Intrepid, Yorktown, Ticonderoga, Hornet, Wasp, Randolph, and Franklin (he was a signalman attached to the flag allotment, so he followed the flag).

He returned to CONUS in May 1945, and then was assigned to various ships and stations:  ARD-8,


Natchaug (AOG-54) and Grainger (AK 184) (no pic) during the Korean War, including support of the Inchon landings:


Hector (AR-7):


Merapi (AF 38):

which he decommissioned in Astoria OR - I've got a ship's clock from her.

His last ship was Strickland (DER 333)


which sailed in support of Operation Hardtack I:


(Nine months after returning to Pearl Harbor following Hardtack I, I was born

He retired as an SMC in 1960, and he passed in 1995.
Link Posted: 4/25/2011 1:58:59 PM EST
[#19]
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Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?

Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.
___________________________________________________________________
("YES, it slices and dices!"––(w,stte), those Vegamatic commercials)


Comes down to what you like.  Do you want to know everyone by there first name or have new people to meet all the time with more things to do.  Most of the time small boys don't have 24/7 internet like CVN's.  Do you want to full medical suite on board, or just a doc and a few corpsmen?


They are worlds apart.


Been on small boys my whole career, and except for the ships that had INMARSAT only, they've all had 24/7 Internet.
Link Posted: 4/25/2011 2:02:14 PM EST
[#20]
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Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?

Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.
___________________________________________________________________
("YES, it slices and dices!"––(w,stte), those Vegamatic commercials)


Comes down to what you like.  Do you want to know everyone by there first name or have new people to meet all the time with more things to do.  Most of the time small boys don't have 24/7 internet like CVN's.  Do you want to full medical suite on board, or just a doc and a few corpsmen?


They are worlds apart.


Been on small boys my whole career, and except for the ships that had INMARSAT only, they've all had 24/7 Internet.


how fast is it? is web access restricted/filtered?
Link Posted: 4/25/2011 2:05:33 PM EST
[#21]
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Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?

Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.
___________________________________________________________________
("YES, it slices and dices!"––(w,stte), those Vegamatic commercials)


Comes down to what you like.  Do you want to know everyone by there first name or have new people to meet all the time with more things to do.  Most of the time small boys don't have 24/7 internet like CVN's.  Do you want to full medical suite on board, or just a doc and a few corpsmen?


They are worlds apart.


Been on small boys my whole career, and except for the ships that had INMARSAT only, they've all had 24/7 Internet.


how fast is it? is web access restricted/filtered?

Last deployment the ship shared a "T-1" connection.

It's as restricted or filtered as the Navy filters/restricts it.
Link Posted: 4/25/2011 9:59:26 PM EST
[#22]
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Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?

Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.


Comes down to what you like.  Do you want to know everyone by there first name or have new people to meet all the time with more things to do.  Most of the time small boys don't have 24/7 internet like CVN's.  Do you want to full medical suite on board, or just a doc and a few corpsmen?


They are worlds apart.


Let's take the internet out of the possible answers...........in the Cold War, we didn't have it. What we had for entertainment, at least legal, was CCTV, VCR's in some work spaces, exercise spaces of various capacities depending on the class, books, and whatever 8088 computer games were around. Assuming, of course, one had the time for any of that.

Even on small boys, it was possible to have people who didn't know certain parts of the ship they had been on for a year or so. Ran across that with EM's where, forward of the passage for the mess deck, they were lost. As far as medical goes, maybe it is just me, but I tend to have more faith in an HM1 or HMC than some doctors I've come across. I think I've only been on one ship where a doctor was assigned........and I'm not sure he had ever been to sea before.

To me, small is better or at least, back then, would be better. Back then, I might have been unique, a curiousity, perhaps an irritant, or even a JAFO......but they did know I was there. On a carrier, assuming similar situations of my officer community then to now (but that community doesn't exist anymore), I'd be a lost face in a ship world full of specialists............not my idea of "fun".

For all the things I did or had to do on small boys, all the things I learned (including the dirty tricks)................I think it would not have as enriching at all being on a carrier.
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(After Commander Carter, LA class Wayne, offers refreshments to 007. "Nothing for me, I don't know about the Major."
"Major, would you," and Carter stops short as Anya takes off her flight helmet and reveals her long hair. "I'm sorry, I hadn't expected you to be a woman."
"Aboard this vessel, Commander, I am Major Amasova of the Russian Army."––Anya
"Yeah.......sure,", (w,stte), "The Spy Who Loved Me")

Link Posted: 5/3/2011 10:18:40 AM EST
[#23]
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How was the duty at the site?

I would think that some of the venues would be very nice indeed.  
 


I was 21 years old at the time. As I remember it the duty was very good. The Scottish ladies were stunning and liberty was great.
Link Posted: 5/7/2011 4:33:01 PM EST
[#24]



Quoted:


Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?



Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.

___________________________________________________________________

("YES, it slices and dices!"––(w,stte), those Vegamatic commercials)


I served in a carrier, and LKA and several tin cans.  Destroyers were much better for me...but some folks like a big ship like a carrier.



 
Link Posted: 5/7/2011 4:48:34 PM EST
[#25]
I have 5 months and 14 days logged aboard USS George Washington, CVN-73. Took her around the horn of South America three years ago when she caught fire off the coast of Chile. Some great memories on that ship's flight deck.


I also did a few weeks onboard the USS Truxton, DDG-103. Fantastic ship, outstanding crew... took her through the Panama Canal on drug interdiction ops and had a hell of a good time.


And here's my current ship: USS Gettysburg, my up and coming home for what looks like the rest of the year.
Link Posted: 5/7/2011 6:28:07 PM EST
[#26]




Quoted:

This...



http://www.vpnavy.net/p3/vp69p3_02_11apr2003.jpg



And this...



http://www.vpnavy.net/p3/vp69p3_01_30aug2008.jpg



...among others.



20 years of Orion: The Hunter.



It's going to be a sad day when they retire the last one.



VP-91: 1991-1995 VP-69: 1995-2002 VP-65: 2002-2004 VP-69: 2004-Present


2nd generation AW here, my dad retired out of VP69

I was with VP9 from 1986 to 1990

and yes, a very sad day indeed! the P3 has done an awesome job........














Link Posted: 5/7/2011 7:16:20 PM EST
[#27]
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This is a picture of Battle Group Romeo in 86 with the USS New Jersey BB62. We were the first battleship Battle group since the Vietnam war. The Bash is bringing up the rear as usual.

http://adw.go-gbs.com/Battlegroupromeo.jpg


My first ship is in that photo.  

....from that same time period.....as seen from the Ranger...

http://www.bb62museum.org/images/nj-3.jpg


That brings back memories, we were in Long Beach when she was in dry docked there getting retrofitted. We actually towed the target barge for her when she tested her guns for the first time since WWII. Even with the target on two miles of cable behind you it was unnerving.


Did ya'll go to GQ... just in case?  


It worked out perfectly actually, we were conducting refresher training before deploying on a Westpac While they were shooting at the barge we were conducting damage control drills, the sound of the incoming sorta put a sense of realism to it.


No doubt. That must have been intense
Link Posted: 5/7/2011 7:18:33 PM EST
[#28]
Link Posted: 5/10/2011 5:17:49 PM EST
[#29]
Different question. If in your time in, you found yourself in a branch that was not ship related, did you still use ship related training, lessons, to decide how to proceed on jobs?

This is a section I posted in BOTS last night:

"Two things. If I put someone in the field, i am doing so under the pretense that I trust them for what they might decide. If they decide they need another asset, I am not going to second guess them, but release that asset to them (if I have it). If they decide that they need a superior on site, then they get the superior. I have had both type of situations occur to me and it is far better for them to know that they can ask than to believe that they should not ask and for them to shut up...........disaster can lie that direction (ie, USS Frank E. Evans being cut in two by carrier Melbourne because of, essentially, poor communication between watch sections on the ship)."

It was a shore based Navy Police unit and I was using lessons between bridge and CIC to guide me in running it. Odd....or just a thing one can find in the Navy?
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("We are one big happy fleet!"––Khan, (w,stte), "ST II: TWOK")
Link Posted: 5/10/2011 5:58:41 PM EST
[#30]
1998 to 2002 Dwight D. Eisenhower. Man I hated the Norfolk area!! Wanted a small boy in San Diego and got a carrier in VA !


I was actually in this picture, in the blue E to be exact. Not that you can tell though .
Link Posted: 5/10/2011 6:18:51 PM EST
[#31]
Quoted:
Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?

Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.
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("YES, it slices and dices!"––(w,stte), those Vegamatic commercials)


I liked CVNs better for the anonymity. I worked in a secure space and didn't have to worry about curious pests sticking their faces in my office. For my last tour I had the misfortune of being assigned to LPD-12; pests galore, all of whom seemed to think they needed to know what was going on in my ordnance shop.

Speaking of pests, it looks as if the Navy is sliding down a serious slippery slope. I saw a documentary about the USS Ronald Reagan on TMC today; part of the ship's routine appears to be something called "Spirit of '76", during which the XO and CMC do the jobs of LPOs and LCPOs.

Link Posted: 5/10/2011 10:01:07 PM EST
[#32]
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Okay, those who can say, who have been both on carriers and "small boys"......which is better? Which did you like more?

Me, never been there. The heaviest thing I was on on top of the water only had a displacement of 11.2K tons.
___________________________________________________________________
("YES, it slices and dices!"––(w,stte), those Vegamatic commercials)


I liked CVNs better for the anonymity. I worked in a secure space and didn't have to worry about curious pests sticking their faces in my office. For my last tour I had the misfortune of being assigned to LPD-12; pests galore, all of whom seemed to think they needed to know what was going on in my ordnance shop.

Speaking of pests, it looks as if the Navy is sliding down a serious slippery slope. I saw a documentary about the USS Ronald Reagan on TMC today; part of the ship's routine appears to be something called "Spirit of '76", during which the XO and CMC do the jobs of LPOs and LCPOs.



Spirit hour has been around on there since the we left the yards.  Most of the departments just make a good showing for the CO.
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