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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:24:44 PM EST
A buddy is willing to give me a mannequin for my man cave and I want to deck it out with some OG-107 jungle fatigues and my XM177 clone. Would this be an acceptable rig?

Hessen Antique

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Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:27:18 PM EST
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I'm not sure, but it would still be cool af.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:34:57 PM EST
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Have been seeing these on e-bay lately, both in sets, and as individual pieces. They look like reasonably faithful repros, but the ones I have seen have all been ChiComm production, just in case that's an issue for you.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:35:23 PM EST
[#3]
Yes, it is the right thing.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:39:20 PM EST
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A buddy is willing to give me a mannequin for my man cave and I want to deck it out with some OG-107 jungle fatigues and my XM177 clone. Would this be an acceptable rig?

Hessen Antique

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259519/00C5784F-EF77-41AF-B39B-AAD7D4012288_jpe-2838263.JPG

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Those look to be M14 magazine pouches?
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:42:12 PM EST
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Only if you were carrying an M-14.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:44:56 PM EST
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Well that just means I’ll have to buy an M1A now.

The ad says M-16.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:50:18 PM EST
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Well that just means I’ll have to buy an M1A now.

The ad says M-16.
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Only if you were carrying an M-14.


Well that just means I’ll have to buy an M1A now.

The ad says M-16.



The 20 round mag pouches had black plastic clips and were nylon, The same with the 30 rounders. I think the first 30 rounders didn't have grenade pouches on them like the ones from the later years.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:52:35 PM EST
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Why buy repro M56 gear when the original equipment is still out there?  Get the real deal.


Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:54:02 PM EST
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There were canvas pouches that held four 20rd M16 magazines. They’re relatively uncommon, compared to the M56 Ammunition Pouches that held two M14 mags.


Early, Late, and M16
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:55:47 PM EST
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yup
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:57:12 PM EST
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When I first enlisted I wore that rig I always just called LBE had M16 mag pouches with grenade holders on side.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 7:59:33 PM EST
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There were canvas pouches that held four 20rd M16 magazines. They’re relatively uncommon, compared to the M56 Ammunition Pouches that held two M14 mags.

https://photos.imageevent.com/willyp/firearmsalbums/uscoltarmalitem16ar15556/m16accessoryitems/magazineammopouches/Pouches%20M56.jpg
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I never saw canvas 20 round M16 pouches before, learn something new everyday.

I carried a M14 pouch as a survival kit on my LBE in the 80's.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:00:38 PM EST
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I ordered from Hessen one time,don't expect that what you receive willl look anything like the Pic.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:07:00 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:07:22 PM EST
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Why buy repro M56 gear when the original equipment is still out there?  Get the real deal.


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A lot of what’s on eBay is from China and even more expensive.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:10:02 PM EST
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Good to know.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:13:30 PM EST
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Why buy repro M56 gear when the original equipment is still out there?  Get the real deal.


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Agreed. I put an M56 set together pretty cheaply. Just need to know what you're looking at.



Goes well with my XM16E1 clone build.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:17:15 PM EST
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LOL at least you got something.
I’ve ordered from them twice and both times I got an email stating “durrr- we said it was in stock but it really wasn’t. D’oh! You’re being refunded”
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:32:37 PM EST
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Looks like 20 rounder pouches with the black clips are $20 on that ste.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:40:25 PM EST
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They have everything, thanks.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:49:37 PM EST
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Looks like 20 rounder pouches with the black clips are $20 on that ste.
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Bear in mind that the nylon M1967 20rd pouches only saw use in fairly limited numbers later on. They were never as common as the M1956 gear, even at the end.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:49:41 PM EST
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I wore M-56 stuff up until 2000 or so when we all switched to the new brown gear.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 8:59:08 PM EST
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A buddy is willing to give me a mannequin for my man cave and I want to deck it out with some OG-107 jungle fatigues and my XM177 clone. Would this be an acceptable rig?

Hessen Antique

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259519/00C5784F-EF77-41AF-B39B-AAD7D4012288_jpe-2838263.JPG

Pic of CAR.

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Don't buy the chicom crap.  A little smart shopping will get you real USGI gear.  The M1956 pouches for the M14 are correct also.  Those in your pic are the canvas M1967 ones for the M16.

Link Posted: 6/2/2023 9:00:05 PM EST
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Those look to be M14 magazine pouches?
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A buddy is willing to give me a mannequin for my man cave and I want to deck it out with some OG-107 jungle fatigues and my XM177 clone. Would this be an acceptable rig?

Hessen Antique

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259519/00C5784F-EF77-41AF-B39B-AAD7D4012288_jpe-2838263.JPG

Pic of CAR.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259519/10C0BE64-9084-47BA-8A6C-8971C616C819_jpe-2838279.JPG
Those look to be M14 magazine pouches?
Those are the shorter M16 ones.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 9:00:41 PM EST
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Well that just means I'll have to buy an M1A now.

The ad says M-16.
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Only if you were carrying an M-14.


Well that just means I'll have to buy an M1A now.

The ad says M-16.
Those are the canvas M1967 ones for the M16.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 9:01:27 PM EST
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The 20 round mag pouches had black plastic clips and were nylon, The same with the 30 rounders. I think the first 30 rounders didn't have grenade pouches on them like the ones from the later years.
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Only if you were carrying an M-14.


Well that just means I'll have to buy an M1A now.

The ad says M-16.



The 20 round mag pouches had black plastic clips and were nylon, The same with the 30 rounders. I think the first 30 rounders didn't have grenade pouches on them like the ones from the later years.
There were canvas M16 pouches.  Shorter than the M1956 pouches.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 9:07:27 PM EST
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Absolutely!

Link Posted: 6/2/2023 9:10:27 PM EST
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No you didn't. The nylon "deuce gear" isn't M-56, it just looks and functions similarly.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 10:11:57 PM EST
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The M1956 small arms case, universal was used to carry M16 20-rd magazines before the M1967 load bearing system was fielded.  And fielding took a while.
Link Posted: 6/2/2023 10:15:04 PM EST
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claymore bag, lrrp canteens, alice pack with frame, bandoliers,P-38 hanging on a dog tag chain
plus the shit is way to new
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 1:19:17 AM EST
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I'd have a Gerber Mark-2 hanging in the left side shoulder strap, handle down.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 1:21:47 AM EST
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you need a 90 degree green flashlight
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 1:24:05 AM EST
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No they look like a short version of the M56 universal ammo pouch. The long ones were “universal”. The short ones were “M16A1” pouches.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 1:30:43 AM EST
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Canvas was M56.  M67 was nylon.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 1:38:33 AM EST
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You need a AN/PRC-25 too.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 2:37:13 AM EST
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A buddy is willing to give me a mannequin for my man cave and I want to deck it out with some OG-107 jungle fatigues and my XM177 clone. Would this be an acceptable rig?

Hessen Antique

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259519/00C5784F-EF77-41AF-B39B-AAD7D4012288_jpe-2838263.JPG

Pic of CAR.

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Hell yeah, screen name checks out!
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 4:36:04 AM EST
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Oh, yeah. Don't forget the lensatic compass!

Personally, I would skip the butt pack and have a first aid kit.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 4:54:45 AM EST
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man ive got an original set of web gear like that i picked up at the knob creek show trade me something cool for it. ive got every early variation of 20rd and 30rd pouches and doubles of a bunch of em on the 30rd gen 1 and 2 types.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 5:00:51 AM EST
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Nice.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 5:36:32 AM EST
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I was a 1st Cav grunt 69-70 working the Cambodian border area.  We only had a few "issue" items as I remember.  Just kept hanging a lot of stuff from the ruck frame.  We had 20 magazines of ammo, usually in those thin cloth bands that tied around your waist or over your shoulder.  Here is a photo of 3 guys in the squad.

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Link Posted: 6/3/2023 6:04:12 AM EST
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No fence around mag release button
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 6:35:58 AM EST
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I have that already.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 6:36:19 AM EST
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Have that already too.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 6:41:47 AM EST
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XM177E2 had a fence. XM177E1 didn’t.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 6:44:25 AM EST
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We called our issue gear "782 gear" back in cold war times.  Everything was canvas and metal from what I recall.   It soaked up sweat like a sponge.   swet and water would accumulate and soak down through your mag pouches.

But OP may be able to find more options by searching 782 gear;  if has not tried that yet.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 6:49:30 AM EST
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Canvas was M56.  M67 was nylon.
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Canvas was M56.  M67 was nylon.
I've always called/heard the canvas short M16 pouches called M1967 pouches even though they are not nylon.  Is there another name?
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 6:54:35 AM EST
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Since it’s a CAR-15 you should do a MAC-V-SOG tribute. It would look really cool and give you a lot more freedom in the gear selection.

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Link Posted: 6/3/2023 6:56:24 AM EST
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We called our issue gear "782 gear" back in cold war times.  Everything was canvas and metal from what I recall.   It soaked up sweat like a sponge.   swet and water would accumulate and soak down through your mag pouches.

But OP may be able to find more options by searching 782 gear;  if has not tried that yet.
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That and we carried the Field Transport pack. It was a two piece pack system. When in combat you only wore the top pack. I was there late on and our magazine pouches carried 3, 30 round magazines and two frags. The M-14 pouches we had were single magazine types. Most of our 782 gear was old Korean War stuff.
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Here are a couple of sets from them.

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Link Posted: 6/3/2023 7:04:16 AM EST
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Useless without a Huey or O-2A

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