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Posted: 8/8/2023 6:50:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If your job can be automated, it needs to be. Shitty, repetitive work is not for humans that is for machines. Humans are for creativity What % of the human population is capable of _useful_ creativity? We've already proven beyond much doubt that people without purpose are mostly a danger to themselves and society. For pretty much the entirety of human history that purpose was provided by keeping yourself and your kids from starving. I see the benefits too, but I see a lot to fear when we turn the large majority of wage slaves into consumers with nothing of value to contribute. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 7:06:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What % of the human population is capable of _useful_ creativity? We've already proven beyond much doubt that people without purpose are mostly a danger to themselves and society. For pretty much the entirety of human history that purpose was provided by keeping yourself and your kids from starving. I see the benefits too, but I see a lot to fear when we turn the large majority of wage slaves into consumers with nothing of value to contribute. Agreed that people need to work but rejecting the concept of globalism at all costs will allow greater creativity. Businesses need to be smaller and more local, as a general rule. The average employee can be responsible for more tasks that include talking to people, making sales, and also building things. That’s more human than specialization in a globalist system. I mean, globalism led by elites with multiple passports has been an amazing blessing for American culture and our economy (sarcasm) but I think we can make something else work. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 7:07:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where oh where would someone find people willing to work as ultracheap factory labor... https://www.ktsm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2023/03/FsbwchBaIAAZPxS.jpg We are fools for not having moved all the cheap China/Asia manufacturing to Mexico. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 8:51:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are fools for not having moved all the cheap China/Asia manufacturing to Mexico. For a several massively excellent reasons. Having prosperous neighbors lifts the entire region up. However, I can see exactly why it wasn’t done. For those exact same reasons. Having instability makes people more tribal and pointing fingers while the elites continue to do their “thing.” |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:05:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Americans really do not have a problem with slavery, as long as its modern slavery. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If global prosperity is rising to the degree that sweatshops are not economically viable, THAT IS GOOD THING. Yes. Americans really do not have a problem with slavery, as long as its modern slavery. Name an era where named or de facto slavery didn't make the world go round? Slavery is still constitutional in the US as long as the person has been convicted of a crime. Have you checked out the US per cañita incarceration rate vs the rest of the world? |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:09:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If your job can be automated, it needs to be. Shitty, repetitive work is not for humans that is for machines. Humans are for creativity Yay UBI. Do you have any idea how many humans aren't creative? |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:11:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree completely. America in particular needs to get over its obsession with cheap, meaningless, excess. I’m as guilty as anyone, having a house full of bullshit I have no need or really even want for, but it was a good deal so I snatched it up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good. Agree completely. America in particular needs to get over its obsession with cheap, meaningless, excess. I’m as guilty as anyone, having a house full of bullshit I have no need or really even want for, but it was a good deal so I snatched it up. American consumption and foreign aid with printed fiat couched in geographical and agricultural dominance has allowed the third world to develop. The end of the petrodollar will hit them as hard as it hits us. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:11:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s patriotic to buy shit on credit. We've bought entire bloodlines with welfare. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:16:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Americans really do not have a problem with slavery, as long as it's modern slavery. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:18:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:21:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Everybody wants to be an Instagrammer or a photographer or a stylist or work at a coffee shop," he said. The nerve of some people! |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:27:19 AM EDT
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I'm willing to pay more for good quality that I don't have to throw away every year.
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:32:42 AM EDT
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This thread goes hand-in-hand with this other thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/This-is-how-it-ends-In-2025-interest-payments-on-the-debt-will-rise-to-1-2-trillion-end-of-USD/5-2663912/
Globalisation is meant to impoverish the world. Chinese can't compete against Africa for cheap labor. We need to bring back sweat shops to manufacture our clothes. When I was a child, there was no shortage of them in SF. The trouble is most Americans don't want to work anymore. Cut off their EBT and other free sh*t and they'll work - or starve. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:35:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hint: Americans don’t want those shit manufacturing jobs either. They would also rather be instagrammers or baristas Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd rather have a viable US manufacturing resurgence than disposable clothing and $300 TVs. Anything that raises the cost of foreign produced goods reduces their comparative advantage. Hint: Americans don’t want those shit manufacturing jobs either. They would also rather be instagrammers or baristas  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:38:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Believe it or not the Chinese don't actually believe in contracts the way Westerners think of them. Like it literally doesn't exist in their culture the way we do things with a handshake or a signed contract. To them it's more of a suggestion than something they're legally obligated to uphold. If give your IP to a Chinese company the reality is you're giving them license to copy it and undercut you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My wife buys a lot of expensive fabric. US/European companies hate working with Chinese companies. They steal everything and are always trying to renegotiate after the contract is signed and before the product is delivered. China has already peaked. It will be interesting if they can manage the decline without it turning into a murderous cleansing. Can't wait for the CCP to sell American politicians for pennies on the dollar. Believe it or not the Chinese don't actually believe in contracts the way Westerners think of them. Like it literally doesn't exist in their culture the way we do things with a handshake or a signed contract. To them it's more of a suggestion than something they're legally obligated to uphold. If give your IP to a Chinese company the reality is you're giving them license to copy it and undercut you. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:41:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: American consumption and foreign aid with printed fiat couched in geographical and agricultural dominance has allowed the third world to develop. The end of the petrodollar will hit them as hard as it hits us. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good. Agree completely. America in particular needs to get over its obsession with cheap, meaningless, excess. I'm as guilty as anyone, having a house full of bullshit I have no need or really even want for, but it was a good deal so I snatched it up. American consumption and foreign aid with printed fiat couched in geographical and agricultural dominance has allowed the third world to develop. The end of the petrodollar will hit them as hard as it hits us. Billions in the third world will fall into despair, starvation, and conflict if history is any guide. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:44:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If global prosperity is rising to the degree that sweatshops are not economically viable, THAT IS A GOOD THING. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:45:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where oh where would someone find people willing to work as ultracheap factory labor... https://www.ktsm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2023/03/FsbwchBaIAAZPxS.jpg |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:58:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread goes hand-in-hand with this other thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/This-is-how-it-ends-In-2025-interest-payments-on-the-debt-will-rise-to-1-2-trillion-end-of-USD/5-2663912/ Globalisation is meant to impoverish the world. Chinese can't compete against Africa for cheap labor. We need to bring back sweat shops to manufacture our clothes. When I was a child, there was no shortage of them in SF. The trouble is most Americans don't want to work anymore. Cut off their EBT and other free sh*t and they'll work - or starve. And the economic contraction will ensure that nobody can buy the sweatshop clothes anyway. Return to floral printed flower sacks. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:01:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The end of the petrodollar will be the second coming of the Bronze Age Collapse or the end of the Rome. Billions in the third world will fall into despair, starvation, and conflict if history is any guide. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good. Agree completely. America in particular needs to get over its obsession with cheap, meaningless, excess. I'm as guilty as anyone, having a house full of bullshit I have no need or really even want for, but it was a good deal so I snatched it up. American consumption and foreign aid with printed fiat couched in geographical and agricultural dominance has allowed the third world to develop. The end of the petrodollar will hit them as hard as it hits us. Billions in the third world will fall into despair, starvation, and conflict if history is any guide. Return to Constitutional SOUND MONEY. Dark Ages 2: Radioactive Boobglue |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:03:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: Name an era where named or de facto slavery didn't make the world go round? Slavery is still constitutional in the US as long as the person has been convicted of a crime. Have you checked out the US per cañita incarceration rate vs the rest of the world? Fuck if I know. Why don’t you tell us? Quoted: Civilization depends on slavery of some sort. Folks just prefer not to see it or be reminded of it these days. Ya. All I see is America perseverates over slavery in history but ignores modern day slavery. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:04:55 AM EDT
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"Everybody wants to be an Instagrammer or a photographer or a stylist or work at a coffee shop," he said. There goes the planet... |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:06:29 AM EDT
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 Oh, fudgeNow a shirt from Orvis will cost 200 bucks.  Attached FileQuoted: The end of the petrodollar will be the second coming of the Bronze Age Collapse or the end of the Rome. Billions in the third world will fall into despair, starvation, and conflict if history is any guide.  Neil Diamond - Coming to America |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:06:47 AM EDT
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It's a cycle. Third world shit hole becomes the worlds junk manufacturer. As time goes buy their standard of living begins to rise till eventually the world find another cheap labor shit hold to make it's junk.
I remember when Japan made the worlds junk. Now they largely make quality stuff. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:10:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck if I know. Why don’t you tell us? Ya. All I see is America perseverates over slavery in history but ignores modern day slavery. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Name an era where named or de facto slavery didn't make the world go round? Slavery is still constitutional in the US as long as the person has been convicted of a crime. Have you checked out the US per cañita incarceration rate vs the rest of the world? Fuck if I know. Why don’t you tell us? Quoted: Civilization depends on slavery of some sort. Folks just prefer not to see it or be reminded of it these days. Ya. All I see is America perseverates over slavery in history but ignores modern day slavery. 
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:14:00 AM EDT
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Are you suggesting we should export our inmates to less fortunate countries?
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:26:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you suggesting we should export our inmates to less fortunate countries? We could start by paring down our malum prohibitum laws and completely outlaw slavery with a constitutional amendment. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:29:23 AM EDT
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I’d like to cross reference some of the posts here with the “TEMU” thread that had surprisingly high enthusiasm
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:31:24 AM EDT
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Good.
Next stop for slave labor: India or South America. They seem to have a good number of people that could use jobs. SA might be a tough sell, as we're telling them all to come to the USA and live for FREE -- who wants to work if that is the alternative? |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:34:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where oh where would someone find people willing to work as ultracheap factory labor... https://www.ktsm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2023/03/FsbwchBaIAAZPxS.jpg Africa ought to be next on the list to be a source of cheap labour and reap the benefits of economic development that brings but those that have tried found it worked... poorly. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:34:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Americans really do not have a problem with slavery, as long as its modern slavery. I have a problem with it. We should put tariffs on imported goods equal to the amount of minimum wage/regulation/benefits that US companies have to pay for their employees. Let's level the playing field ...for real. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:36:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Americans really do not have a problem with slavery, as long as its modern slavery. Isn't everything modern better? That would seem to be the woke messaging. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:45:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We could start by paring down our malum prohibitum laws and completely outlaw slavery with a constitutional amendment. Name a place in the USA where slavery is legal. Don't try some BS about how making people work for a living is "slavery". |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:51:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Explains their anti-Trump agenda - they want Chinese slave labor to make their cheap stuff. The left and the left leaning has always wanted near free or slave labor. Our left, their left ( communists, NAZIs , Islamist regimes ), and yes on explaining their anti freedom, anti capitalist, and anti Trump ( a capitalist) leanings. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:56:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Name a place in the USA where slavery is legal. Don't try some BS about how making people work for a living is "slavery". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We could start by paring down our malum prohibitum laws and completely outlaw slavery with a constitutional amendment. Name a place in the USA where slavery is legal. Don't try some BS about how making people work for a living is "slavery". Literally everywhere as long as you incarcerate them first. ETA: Seriously. Every single State. It's pretty common for "made in the USA" products to be produced by prison labor. Hey - it's even Berry Act compliant! Common items provided to the government via contract are produced by prison slave labor. It is what it is. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:00:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the economic contraction will ensure that nobody can buy the sweatshop clothes anyway. Return to floral printed flower sacks. I remember reading about them but nowadays flour or sugar sacks are paper. They go back to ante-bellum (pre-Civil War) era. Besides, most modern American women don't know how to sew. The duration of disorder is dependent on how fast we build our local economies first, then county, then state and finally nation. We don't need to rebuild the financial system which is a system of grift with assets concentrating via wealth transfer on the top but an economy. This depend on how fast we reject their proposed CBDC and go on our own (non central bank controlled digital curency, gold, silver). |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:01:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Name a place in the USA where slavery is legal. Don't try some BS about how making people work for a living is "slavery". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We could start by paring down our malum prohibitum laws and completely outlaw slavery with a constitutional amendment. Name a place in the USA where slavery is legal. Don't try some BS about how making people work for a living is "slavery". All of it. I hope constitution.Congress.gov is official enough of a source for you. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:02:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If global prosperity is rising to the degree that sweatshops are not economically viable, THAT IS A GOOD THING. How is global prosperity good for the US of A? Having poor countries that manufacture goods and countries that suppress their people like dictators do puts less pressure on global resources. People with extra money want stuff, like cars which use petroleum products. That increases costs for us. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:05:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember reading about them but nowadays flour or sugar sacks are paper. They go back to ante-bellum (pre-Civil War) era. Besides, most modern American women don't know how to sew. The duration of disorder is dependent on how fast we build our local economies first, then county, then state and finally nation. We don't need to rebuild the financial system which is a system of grift with assets concentrating via wealth transfer on the top but an economy. This depend on how fast we reject their proposed CBDC and go on our own (non central bank controlled digital curency, gold, silver). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And the economic contraction will ensure that nobody can buy the sweatshop clothes anyway. Return to floral printed flower sacks. I remember reading about them but nowadays flour or sugar sacks are paper. They go back to ante-bellum (pre-Civil War) era. Besides, most modern American women don't know how to sew. The duration of disorder is dependent on how fast we build our local economies first, then county, then state and finally nation. We don't need to rebuild the financial system which is a system of grift with assets concentrating via wealth transfer on the top but an economy. This depend on how fast we reject their proposed CBDC and go on our own (non central bank controlled digital curency, gold, silver). What credible ordered regression capabilities can we leverage to do this? Are there enough horses to replace transportation and logistics needs after the petrodollar fueled JIT insanity ends? How long would it take to breed enough horses? At least if we go this route we can return to a global population of 500 million. There is no structured regression ability. The options are kick the can or armageddon. Everyone will continue to kick the can until armageddon. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:06:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Literally everywhere as long as you incarcerate them first. ETA: Seriously. Every single State. It's pretty common for "made in the USA" products to be produced by prison labor. Hey - it's even Berry Act compliant! Common items provided to the government via contract are produced by prison slave labor. It is what it is. Seriously, I've got no problem with this, and neither do most decent people. USA prisons are not filled with people just grabbed off the street or shipped in on a boat from Africa. There is due process. It's called Rule of Law. Prisons clearly aren't difficult enough, as they are meant to both be a way to protect society from criminals AND provide disincentive for low life types who will not otherwise constrain themselves from raping/pillaging/stealing. Why you would want to REMOVE that disincentive is baffling. I can only imaging your position stems from a hatred of weed laws or other laws prohibiting recreational use of drugs. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:08:07 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is global prosperity good for the US of A? Having poor countries that manufacture goods and countries that suppress their people like dictators do puts less pressure on global resources. People with extra money want stuff, like cars which use petroleum products. That increases costs for us. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If global prosperity is rising to the degree that sweatshops are not economically viable, THAT IS A GOOD THING. How is global prosperity good for the US of A? Having poor countries that manufacture goods and countries that suppress their people like dictators do puts less pressure on global resources. People with extra money want stuff, like cars which use petroleum products. That increases costs for us. Global poverty line is $2.15 a day. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:08:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, maybe people will learn the meaning of "buy once cry once" again. I've taken TONS of cheaply made clothing to the thrift stores over the last few years. I had a whole closet that was mostly full of shit that I would scroll past while trying to find a shirt to wear. I'd rather have 1/5 of the clothes I had before, but have them ALL be quality clothes that look great, are stylish, and will last. The cheap clothes (with collars that get screwed up the first time through the wash) are a false economy. This makes no sense. It was your decision to buy cheap poorly made clothing when you could have spent more money to buy better quality. It actually exists. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:09:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We could start by paring down our malum prohibitum laws and completely outlaw slavery with a constitutional amendment. WTF are you babbling about????? Slavery was abolished in 1865 and if you think prison is slavery then you need a lobotomy & to be castrated. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:09:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryDid you even read your own link???  "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted..." If you think people shouldn't be punished for their crimes, then we have nothing to talk about. I'm a law and order kind of guy, not a "free drugs for all, no punishment for any crimes" kind of guy, so there is no common frame of reference for our discussion. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:09:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously, I've got no problem with this, and neither do most decent people. USA prisons are not filled with people just grabbed off the street or shipped in on a boat from Africa. There is due process. It's called Rule of Law. Prisons clearly aren't difficult enough, as they are meant to both be a way to protect society from criminals AND provide disincentive for low life types who will not otherwise constrain themselves from raping/pillaging/stealing. Why you would want to REMOVE that disincentive is baffling. I can only imaging your position stems from a hatred of weed laws or other laws prohibiting recreational use of drugs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Literally everywhere as long as you incarcerate them first. ETA: Seriously. Every single State. It's pretty common for "made in the USA" products to be produced by prison labor. Hey - it's even Berry Act compliant! Common items provided to the government via contract are produced by prison slave labor. It is what it is. Seriously, I've got no problem with this, and neither do most decent people. USA prisons are not filled with people just grabbed off the street or shipped in on a boat from Africa. There is due process. It's called Rule of Law. Prisons clearly aren't difficult enough, as they are meant to both be a way to protect society from criminals AND provide disincentive for low life types who will not otherwise constrain themselves from raping/pillaging/stealing. Why you would want to REMOVE that disincentive is baffling. I can only imaging your position stems from a hatred of weed laws or other laws prohibiting recreational use of drugs. Legalize weed and all other drugs. Mandatory death sentence for forcible felonies: murder arson rape kidnapping robbery etc. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:30:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously, I've got no problem with this, and neither do most decent people. USA prisons are not filled with people just grabbed off the street or shipped in on a boat from Africa. There is due process. It's called Rule of Law. Prisons clearly aren't difficult enough, as they are meant to both be a way to protect society from criminals AND provide disincentive for low life types who will not otherwise constrain themselves from raping/pillaging/stealing. Why you would want to REMOVE that disincentive is baffling. I can only imaging your position stems from a hatred of weed laws or other laws prohibiting recreational use of drugs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Literally everywhere as long as you incarcerate them first. ETA: Seriously. Every single State. It's pretty common for "made in the USA" products to be produced by prison labor. Hey - it's even Berry Act compliant! Common items provided to the government via contract are produced by prison slave labor. It is what it is. Seriously, I've got no problem with this, and neither do most decent people. USA prisons are not filled with people just grabbed off the street or shipped in on a boat from Africa. There is due process. It's called Rule of Law. Prisons clearly aren't difficult enough, as they are meant to both be a way to protect society from criminals AND provide disincentive for low life types who will not otherwise constrain themselves from raping/pillaging/stealing. Why you would want to REMOVE that disincentive is baffling. I can only imaging your position stems from a hatred of weed laws or other laws prohibiting recreational use of drugs. You shift from disbelief and mockery to being shown - clearly - to hold an incorrect belief and quickly declare how it's no big deal and I'm probably a druggy. That's honestly quite impressive. You're one abrasive chameleon. Also I'm not the same guy you were debating earlier. User names are there for a reason. 
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:31:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Legalize weed and all other drugs. Mandatory death sentence for forcible felonies: murder arson rape kidnapping robbery etc. Honestly with our broken society I don't see much of a better solution than - and I hate this - giving yet more power to the government to kill criminal civilians legally. Our current setup is blatantly not working. As to your other point? Everything except antibiotics should be OTC and available in vending machines. Put them next to the machinegun vending machines and across from the grenade vending machines. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:32:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYet the worlds population continues to increase and the birth rate in poor countries has been on the rise for some time. As far as the $2.15 a day I read it was something on the order of 600 million live on that or less. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:36:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously, I've got no problem with this, and neither do most decent people. USA prisons are not filled with people just grabbed off the street or shipped in on a boat from Africa. There is due process. It's called Rule of Law. Prisons clearly aren't difficult enough, as they are meant to both be a way to protect society from criminals AND provide disincentive for low life types who will not otherwise constrain themselves from raping/pillaging/stealing. Why you would want to REMOVE that disincentive is baffling. I can only imaging your position stems from a hatred of weed laws or other laws prohibiting recreational use of drugs. Well, clearly you've never known anyone who has ever been incarcerated for longer than a weekend. Prisons in this country are a trade school. They are not and have never been an effective deterrent to criminal behavior. People go there and with a rare handful of exceptions they come out the other end as much more capable criminals. As for the concept of rule of law... Well, you will probably be finding out how hollow that has become soon enough. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 11:39:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet the worlds population continues to increase and the birth rate in poor countries has been on the rise for some time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet the worlds population continues to increase and the birth rate in poor countries has been on the rise for some time. That's going to change dramatically soon enough. Probably not soon enough to save us from the Chinese communist party declaring war on the whole world. When they realize the jig is up I expect them to go out in the worlds largest ever blaze of sour grapes. |
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