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Quoted: What about for a regular smoker who isn't under anesthesia? How does that justify punishing anyone? View Quote Lol. You wanted to know the effects, You got them. Who brought punishment into the debate other than a pot smoker who is oblivious to the effects presented? “What about….” Nobody cares about what about. The moral equivalence you are switching the subject for is that cannabis effects are like opioids in the difference from tobacco: acute mental impairment. |
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Quoted: So it's like the different alcohol content of adult beverages? View Quote Except with alcohol concentration, metabolism, and elimination are completely different than THC. Effects are different. But can be categorized similarly, it alters cognition that a person is no longer themselves. The addiction component varies genetically and psychologically. For example, a Native American can probably smoke weed and not be addicted. Give them alcohol and you will have a raging alcoholic in no time if they are on a reservation. |
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Quoted: Except with alcohol concentration, metabolism, and elimination are completely different than THC. Effects are different. But can be categorized similarly, it alters cognition that a person is no longer themselves. The addiction component varies genetically and psychologically. For example, a Native American can probably smoke weed and not be addicted. Give them alcohol and you will have a raging alcoholic in no time if they are on a reservation. View Quote Again, explain what marijuana does to someone when they smoke it. We are all waiting for a good laugh. Where did you get that nonsense? |
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Quoted: Lol. You wanted to know the effects, You got them. Who brought punishment into the debate other than a pot smoker who is oblivious to the effects presented? “What about….” Nobody cares about what about. The moral equivalence you are switching the subject for is that cannabis effects are like opioids in the difference from tobacco: acute mental impairment. View Quote No, you didn't explain any part of what it does when someone smokes it. Your explanation should be pretty funny, so please share. Punishment is a basic part of prohibition. If people don't get punished then you don't have prohibition. So, explain how any of that justifies punishing anyone. Car and Driver did closed course testing on alcohol drinkers versus pot smokers. The alcohol drinkers were quickly unsafe to drive. They gave up trying to find a dose of marijuana that was large enough that it would impair an experienced pot smoker. The pot smokers were laughing like hell (probably because they got free weed) but did better at the course after every doobie. The only "acute mental impairment" just made them laugh and made them hungry. Puff, The Dangerous Driver My guess is that you don't have a clue what you are talking about. |
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Quoted: Except with alcohol concentration, metabolism, and elimination are completely different than THC. Effects are different. But can be categorized similarly, it alters cognition that a person is no longer themselves. The addiction component varies genetically and psychologically. For example, a Native American can probably smoke weed and not be addicted. Give them alcohol and you will have a raging alcoholic in no time if they are on a reservation. View Quote That's hilarious. Lab tests have shown that the only reliable way to tell if someone is stoned on pot is to ask them. But do go on and explain what "no longer themselves" means. |
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Quoted: Alcohol is the biggest gateway. Because it’s legal. Marijuana isn’t because it has been regulated. If weed gets it’s unregulated status it desires, inhibitions will be lowered that it would take the crown to the more devastating drug pathway. Just like alcohol causes liver failure, fetal alcohol syndrome, etc; with greater use of weed, you will see a the acute and chronic problems becoming more common place. I’ve seen young teenagers who have used so much cannabis, that they have erosive gastritis from the constant nausea/vomiting that can’t be relieved with any other medicine. Pain relief from medicine is ineffective because of cannaboid reliance. Following them, it is unknown if their bodies will go back to their normal state after cannabis cessation. View Quote Wtf Cannabis never caused me or anyone I know constant vomiting or nausea. Maybe you might hurl if you have WAY too much, but that also applies to alcohol. |
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I seen some drug paraphernalia on the ground in the Walmart parking lot earlier today. Getting so sick of this shit.
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Quoted: Lab tests weren't even available until the mid-70s. View Quote Databased lab tests for potency in 70s THC isolation was in the 40s/50s and concentration by 60s. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4987131/ But actually addressing the claim, potency has increased. “These included effects on the brain and mental illness, school performance and lifetime achievement, risk of motor vehicle accidents, chronic inflammation of the lungs, and the effects on the vascular system. Furthermore, the authors showed that drug-related Emergency Department (ED) visits involving marijuana (either alone or in combination) has increased over time, corresponding to the increase in the potency of the drug over that period of time. The authors noted that with increase in THC content in confiscated marijuana samples from 3% in 1980 to 12% in 2012, the health consequences of marijuana use may be worse now than in the past. In adolescents (aged 15-17 years old) it has been reported that ED visits involving marijuana use has risen in both males and females by 53.6% and 42.9%, respectively, from 2005 to 2010 (10), which might be caused by the increase in cannabis potency over this time period. While the rate of increase in ED admissions almost parallels the rate of increase in cannabis potency overtime might be coincidental or at least is empirical, that correlation points to the importance of having solid analytical data on cannabis products used by clinicians practicing with Medical Marijuana in the states that have laws allowing the use of these products.” Is it causal, or coincidental? I’m in the camp that it’s causal because young teens are developing side effects that weren’t apparent until in chronic heavy use adults. |
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I had a random drug test on 4/20/21. I'm sure it was just a coincidence.
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Quoted: Again, explain what marijuana does to someone when they smoke it. We are all waiting for a good laugh. Where did you get that nonsense? View Quote Umm… scientific population studies and abuse rates. Shocker, different genetic populations react differently to substances. Just like genetic populations have higher rates of certain diseases. |
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Y’all have a bag of hot funyuns and a grape soda for me. Don’t forget to take a T break if you haven’t in a while.
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Quoted: Wtf Cannabis never caused me or anyone I know constant vomiting or nausea. Maybe you might hurl if you have WAY too much, but that also applies to alcohol. View Quote Hyperemesis from weed. Just go look it up. Now see the increased incidence rate over time. In pot heads ever increasing need to get the same high, they’ve created products which are causing issues. New users are probably developing the symptoms as a result. Both of which are signs of a society in distress. |
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Quoted: Databased lab tests for potency in 70s THC isolation was in the 40s/50s and concentration by 60s. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4987131/ But actually addressing the claim, potency has increased. “These included effects on the brain and mental illness, school performance and lifetime achievement, risk of motor vehicle accidents, chronic inflammation of the lungs, and the effects on the vascular system. Furthermore, the authors showed that drug-related Emergency Department (ED) visits involving marijuana (either alone or in combination) has increased over time, corresponding to the increase in the potency of the drug over that period of time. The authors noted that with increase in THC content in confiscated marijuana samples from 3% in 1980 to 12% in 2012, the health consequences of marijuana use may be worse now than in the past. In adolescents (aged 15-17 years old) it has been reported that ED visits involving marijuana use has risen in both males and females by 53.6% and 42.9%, respectively, from 2005 to 2010 (10), which might be caused by the increase in cannabis potency over this time period. While the rate of increase in ED admissions almost parallels the rate of increase in cannabis potency overtime might be coincidental or at least is empirical, that correlation points to the importance of having solid analytical data on cannabis products used by clinicians practicing with Medical Marijuana in the states that have laws allowing the use of these products.” Is it causal, or coincidental? I’m in the camp that it’s causal because young teens are developing side effects that weren’t apparent in chronic heavy use adults. View Quote THC wasn't isolated until 1964 by Rapheal Mechoulam in Israel. So that's wrong. When was THC discovered? ED reports are based on "mentions." That is, the person goes to the ED and they ask them what drugs they have ever used. Anything mentioned is a "mention." It has nothing to do with causality. Potent weed - well about 12% has been available for thousands of years. See "The Hashish Eaters" in 1001 Arabian Nights as one example. Alcohol wins all the prizes for that sort of stuff. Alcohol accounts for about half of all deaths from auto accidents, homicides, suicides, fires, and drowning. It also accounts for about half of all domestic violence and two-thirds of sexual assaults on children. By some estimates, up to forty percent of inpatient hospital care may be related to alcohol. Marijuana isn't even a blip on the radar by comparison. Do you want to prohibit alcohol again? |
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Quoted: Hyperemesis from weed. Just go look it up. Now see the increased incidence rate over time. In pot heads ever increasing need to get the same high, they’ve created products which are causing issues. New users are probably developing the symptoms as a result. Both of which are signs of a society in distress. View Quote Explain that nonsense. Tell us, in detail, what you think marijuana does when someone smokes a joint. We all want a laugh. |
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Quoted: THC wasn't isolated until 1964 by Rapheal Mechoulam in Israel. So that's wrong. When was THC discovered? ED reports are based on "mentions." That is, the person goes to the ED and they ask them what drugs they have ever used. Anything mentioned is a "mention." It has nothing to do with causality. Potent weed - well about 12% has been available for thousands of years. See "The Hashish Eaters" in 1001 Arabian Nights as one example. Alcohol wins all the prizes for that sort of stuff. Alcohol accounts for about half of all deaths from auto accidents, homicides, suicides, fires, and drowning. It also accounts for about half of all domestic violence and two-thirds of sexual assaults on children. By some estimates, up to forty percent of inpatient hospital care may be related to alcohol. Marijuana isn't even a blip on the radar by comparison. Do you want to prohibit alcohol again? View Quote https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1760722/ |
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In this thread, we see the weed abusers, and we see the attempts of justification for their disgusting habits.
“What about” and “you aren’t enlightened unless you tell me what it does to you personally” are on the menu. Dessert will be complete ignoring off effects biologically, psychologically, and societally. Happy 4/20 lol Disgusting pot heads |
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Quoted: Hyperemesis from weed. Just go look it up. Now see the increased incidence rate over time. In pot heads ever increasing need to get the same high, they’ve created products which are causing issues. New users are probably developing the symptoms as a result. Both of which are signs of a society in distress. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Wtf Cannabis never caused me or anyone I know constant vomiting or nausea. Maybe you might hurl if you have WAY too much, but that also applies to alcohol. Hyperemesis from weed. Just go look it up. Now see the increased incidence rate over time. In pot heads ever increasing need to get the same high, they’ve created products which are causing issues. New users are probably developing the symptoms as a result. Both of which are signs of a society in distress. Society is a thinly veiled illusion, always has been. Much like the money supply, it only exists because we accept that it does. Again, freedom. Who gets to set the rules and decide what is good and acceptable for everyone else? Why are drugs the issue and not diet? Why is your moral compass the one with merit? What happens when someone else deems your habits or beliefs detrimental to society? See where this is going? |
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Quoted: In this thread, we see the weed abusers, and we see the attempts of justification for their disgusting habits. “What about” and “you aren’t enlightened unless you tell me what it does to you personally” are on the menu. Dessert will be complete ignoring off effects biologically, psychologically, and societally. Happy 4/20 lol View Quote In this thread we see people who can't answer even the simplest questions about weed or anything else claiming that it will be the downfall of society and making stupid erroneous assumptions about people they don't even know. People who are against legalization have two things in common: 1) They don't actually know anything about the subject. Ask them the simplest factual questions and the best response you will get will be a blank stare. 2) They don't want to know anything and will refuse to read anything that they think might disagree with them. Let's start with something really simple. Why was it outlawed in the first place? Was it good sound reasons that you support? |
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The biggest critics of weed are those that have never tried it.
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Quoted: Society is a thinly veiled illusion, always has been. Much like the money supply, it only exists because we accept that it does. Again, freedom. Who gets to set the rules and decide what is good and acceptable for everyone else? Why are drugs the issue and not diet? Why is your moral compass the one with merit? What happens when someone else deems your habits or beliefs detrimental to society? See where this is going? View Quote Or, assume all the worst. Assume it is as bad as alcohol. How does prohibition improve any of that? |
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Quoted: In this thread, we see the weed abusers, and we see the attempts of justification for their disgusting habits. “What about” and “you aren’t enlightened unless you tell me what it does to you personally” are on the menu. Dessert will be complete ignoring off effects biologically, psychologically, and societally. Happy 4/20 lol Disgusting pot heads View Quote That soapbox though. You should smoke a joint, relax. |
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Quoted: In this thread we see people who can't answer even the simplest questions about weed or anything else claiming that it will be the downfall of society and making stupid erroneous assumptions about people they don't even know. People who are against legalization have two things in common: 1) They don't actually know anything about the subject. Ask them the simplest factual questions and the best response you will get will be a blank stare. 2) They don't want to know anything and will refuse to read anything that they think might disagree with them. Let's start with something really simple. Why was it outlawed in the first place? Was it good sound reasons that you support? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In this thread, we see the weed abusers, and we see the attempts of justification for their disgusting habits. “What about” and “you aren’t enlightened unless you tell me what it does to you personally” are on the menu. Dessert will be complete ignoring off effects biologically, psychologically, and societally. Happy 4/20 lol In this thread we see people who can't answer even the simplest questions about weed or anything else claiming that it will be the downfall of society and making stupid erroneous assumptions about people they don't even know. People who are against legalization have two things in common: 1) They don't actually know anything about the subject. Ask them the simplest factual questions and the best response you will get will be a blank stare. 2) They don't want to know anything and will refuse to read anything that they think might disagree with them. Let's start with something really simple. Why was it outlawed in the first place? Was it good sound reasons that you support? Pot was outlawed because it makes people like jazz music and fornicate with white women. |
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Quoted: Pot was outlawed because it makes people like jazz music and fornicate with white women. View Quote That's the short form of the reason. For anyone interested in the longer answer, see Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way |
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Quoted: Pot was outlawed because it makes people like jazz music and fornicate with white women. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In this thread, we see the weed abusers, and we see the attempts of justification for their disgusting habits. “What about” and “you aren’t enlightened unless you tell me what it does to you personally” are on the menu. Dessert will be complete ignoring off effects biologically, psychologically, and societally. Happy 4/20 lol In this thread we see people who can't answer even the simplest questions about weed or anything else claiming that it will be the downfall of society and making stupid erroneous assumptions about people they don't even know. People who are against legalization have two things in common: 1) They don't actually know anything about the subject. Ask them the simplest factual questions and the best response you will get will be a blank stare. 2) They don't want to know anything and will refuse to read anything that they think might disagree with them. Let's start with something really simple. Why was it outlawed in the first place? Was it good sound reasons that you support? Pot was outlawed because it makes people like jazz music and fornicate with white women. Drug laws and gun laws were pretty racist to begin with. Now its ideology and big business (WOD). |
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LOL @ all of the statist outing themselves.
Turn in your firearms for the good of society hypocrites. |
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Seriously MochaTX, eat half a 10mg gummie some Saturday when you don't have any obligations and can sit around a fire with your buddies and some beer.
You'll have a good time...seriously. It will become apparent pretty quickly that the war on pot needles is a waste of time and resources. |
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Quoted: It is international Pothead Day today, when all the people who adore their mary jane celebrate that fact. Careful not to slip on those pesky needles they'll be leaving laying everywhere, y'all. View Quote Local dispensary has a line around it. 30% off storewide! It's interesting. I live 10 minute walk from one, yet I don't smell it all the time. Visit my buddy in the city, you get to about the Mars Station and the whole train reeks, and you smell it nonstop from the time you get off at Union Station. |
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Quoted: In this thread, we see the weed abusers, and we see the attempts of justification for their disgusting habits. “What about” and “you aren’t enlightened unless you tell me what it does to you personally” are on the menu. Dessert will be complete ignoring off effects biologically, psychologically, and societally. Happy 4/20 lol Disgusting pot heads View Quote LMAO! |
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Quoted: Except with alcohol concentration, metabolism, and elimination are completely different than THC. Effects are different. But can be categorized similarly, it alters cognition that a person is no longer themselves. The addiction component varies genetically and psychologically. For example, a Native American can probably smoke weed and not be addicted. Give them alcohol and you will have a raging alcoholic in no time if they are on a reservation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So it's like the different alcohol content of adult beverages? Except with alcohol concentration, metabolism, and elimination are completely different than THC. Effects are different. But can be categorized similarly, it alters cognition that a person is no longer themselves. The addiction component varies genetically and psychologically. For example, a Native American can probably smoke weed and not be addicted. Give them alcohol and you will have a raging alcoholic in no time if they are on a reservation. This shit is exhausting. It's literally impossible for MJ to ever be addictive. It's habitual. There is no physical dependency, so there is no addiction. It's biologically impossible to develop a physical dependency to MJ. |
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Quoted: This shit is exhausting. It's literally impossible for MJ to ever be addictive. It's habitual. There is no physical dependency, so there is no addiction. It's biologically impossible to develop a physical dependency to MJ. View Quote https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/available-treatments-marijuana-use-disorders And yet it is addictive. I’m loving the pot propaganda. It’s like word games that the left uses. You are confusing physical dependency and addiction. They are similar and different. Physical dependence means they need the drug or face a physical problem. You can be addicted to something and not be physically dependent. |
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Quoted: https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/available-treatments-marijuana-use-disorders And yet it is addictive. I’m loving the pot propaganda. It’s like word games that the left uses. You are confusing physical dependency and addiction. They are similar and different. Physical dependence means they need the drug or face a physical problem. You can be addicted to something and not be physically dependent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This shit is exhausting. It's literally impossible for MJ to ever be addictive. It's habitual. There is no physical dependency, so there is no addiction. It's biologically impossible to develop a physical dependency to MJ. https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/available-treatments-marijuana-use-disorders And yet it is addictive. I’m loving the pot propaganda. It’s like word games that the left uses. You are confusing physical dependency and addiction. They are similar and different. Physical dependence means they need the drug or face a physical problem. You can be addicted to something and not be physically dependent. Ok, you don't have physical withdrawal symptoms, that better? I'm just curious why you hate it so much. What are your vices, and if you say none or some bullshit like working out ill know you're lying. Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! William "dime bag" Wallace. |
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Quoted: https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/available-treatments-marijuana-use-disorders And yet it is addictive. I’m loving the pot propaganda. It’s like word games that the left uses. You are confusing physical dependency and addiction. They are similar and different. Physical dependence means they need the drug or face a physical problem. You can be addicted to something and not be physically dependent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This shit is exhausting. It's literally impossible for MJ to ever be addictive. It's habitual. There is no physical dependency, so there is no addiction. It's biologically impossible to develop a physical dependency to MJ. https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/available-treatments-marijuana-use-disorders And yet it is addictive. I’m loving the pot propaganda. It’s like word games that the left uses. You are confusing physical dependency and addiction. They are similar and different. Physical dependence means they need the drug or face a physical problem. You can be addicted to something and not be physically dependent. Half Baked (1998) Bob Saget |
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Quoted: https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/available-treatments-marijuana-use-disorders And yet it is addictive. I’m loving the pot propaganda. It’s like word games that the left uses. You are confusing physical dependency and addiction. They are similar and different. Physical dependence means they need the drug or face a physical problem. You can be addicted to something and not be physically dependent. View Quote Let's review the characteristics of those who still believe in pot prohibition. 1) Can't answer the most basic factual questions. 2) Will refuse to read anything they think might disagree with them. We could also add: 3) Assumes that anyone who disagrees with them must be a raging pot addict/zombie. |
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Quoted: In this thread, we see the weed abusers, and we see the attempts of justification for their disgusting habits. “What about” and “you aren’t enlightened unless you tell me what it does to you personally” are on the menu. Dessert will be complete ignoring off effects biologically, psychologically, and societally. Happy 4/20 lol Disgusting pot heads View Quote Meh, you come in here spouting your views like someone here gives a shit. |
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Quoted: Let's review the characteristics of those who still believe in pot prohibition. 1) Can't answer the most basic factual questions. 2) Will refuse to read anything they think might disagree with them. We could also add: 3) Assumes that anyone who disagrees with them must be a raging pot addict/zombie. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/available-treatments-marijuana-use-disorders And yet it is addictive. I’m loving the pot propaganda. It’s like word games that the left uses. You are confusing physical dependency and addiction. They are similar and different. Physical dependence means they need the drug or face a physical problem. You can be addicted to something and not be physically dependent. Let's review the characteristics of those who still believe in pot prohibition. 1) Can't answer the most basic factual questions. 2) Will refuse to read anything they think might disagree with them. We could also add: 3) Assumes that anyone who disagrees with them must be a raging pot addict/zombie. Don't red flag me op. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This shit is exhausting. It's literally impossible for MJ to ever be addictive. It's habitual. There is no physical dependency, so there is no addiction. It's biologically impossible to develop a physical dependency to MJ. https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/available-treatments-marijuana-use-disorders And yet it is addictive. I’m loving the pot propaganda. It’s like word games that the left uses. You are confusing physical dependency and addiction. They are similar and different. Physical dependence means they need the drug or face a physical problem. You can be addicted to something and not be physically dependent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abW5NitQHO4 |
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