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Quoted: before you make fun stop everything and go watch this documentary. its called ''Is Genesis History? - Watch the Full Film'' found it on youtube Premiered Mar 26, 2020 scientists cover all aspects you have in mind in this documentary and follow up series. proof dinos and global pre flood world was vastly different than we once thought. my quick opinion its not like public schools teach or jurassic park hollywood films. for instance the oxygen in atmosphere had to have been many times what it is post flood for a pterosaur to fly and sauropods to breathe thru pin hole sized nostrils that much is confirmed. the bible says it hadnt ever rained until the day GOD shut the door to the ark. basically there was enormous amounts of liquified droplets and oxygen in the air like being near a waterfall if you can imagine. kind of interesting. these creatures did exist and yes the bible says they were created along side man. keep in mind they were not created as you see them in the fossil record. 2 reasons for that. one is that GOD created them and everything else and it was perfect and good. and 2 the bible describes the fall of man when sin entered into the world and murder entered into the world thats when thorns and flesh eating creatures entered into the world. it was like a default mechanism built into the animals for when man sinned and murdered. the research area of religion your looking at is called genisis apologetics or simply ''apologetics''. apologetics has little to do with true Chritianity as GOD states that without faith its impossible to please him. also we have our own free will to believe or disbelieve for instance if you believe the bible at all GOD sends a strong delusion to those who would not believe. i hope i didnt misqoute anything. ill come back and spend more time on this maybe. i could talk all day for a week about this in person as ive studied it way too much. View Quote Holy fuck, dude. |
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Quoted: This being GD it’s hard to tell if this is satire or not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Prior to the fall there was no death with human or animals. Men and animals lived at least a thousand years. Reptiles never stop growing. Dinosaurs are reptiles. This being GD it’s hard to tell if this is satire or not. Actually, this being GD, he is definitely serious… |
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Quoted: Quoted: before you make fun stop everything and go watch this documentary. its called ''Is Genesis History? - Watch the Full Film'' found it on youtube Premiered Mar 26, 2020 scientists cover all aspects you have in mind in this documentary and follow up series. proof dinos and global pre flood world was vastly different than we once thought. my quick opinion its not like public schools teach or jurassic park hollywood films. for instance the oxygen in atmosphere had to have been many times what it is post flood for a pterosaur to fly and sauropods to breathe thru pin hole sized nostrils that much is confirmed. the bible says it hadnt ever rained until the day GOD shut the door to the ark. basically there was enormous amounts of liquified droplets and oxygen in the air like being near a waterfall if you can imagine. kind of interesting. these creatures did exist and yes the bible says they were created along side man. keep in mind they were not created as you see them in the fossil record. 2 reasons for that. one is that GOD created them and everything else and it was perfect and good. and 2 the bible describes the fall of man when sin entered into the world and murder entered into the world thats when thorns and flesh eating creatures entered into the world. it was like a default mechanism built into the animals for when man sinned and murdered. the research area of religion your looking at is called genisis apologetics or simply ''apologetics''. apologetics has little to do with true Chritianity as GOD states that without faith its impossible to please him. also we have our own free will to believe or disbelieve for instance if you believe the bible at all GOD sends a strong delusion to those who would not believe. i hope i didnt misqoute anything. ill come back and spend more time on this maybe. i could talk all day for a week about this in person as ive studied it way too much. Holy fuck, dude. For a guy who doesn’t want to be shamed for intensely personal beliefs, your first instincts are telling. Very tedious Mr. 45. Very tedious. |
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First off, I believe someone should clarify due to factors, exactly what category dinos would fit in as it has to do with the order of creation as it occurred.
Sharks, as we know them are estimated to be 200,000,000 years old give or take. So are Crocodilians. Were dinosaurs around then? Science says yes. The scientific method says yes. I don't see what the problem is. Is the earth 4.5 billion years old like has been purported to be? I don't think so. Is it more than 5,400 years old give or take like some Christians believe? I think that it is. Evolution is a thing. Science says yes and I say yes. I am a Christian as well. I have no reason to hide anything. |
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Sure. Batman killed them all on the ark for humping Mrs Noah. That's why there's a dead stuffed one in the batcave.
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Quoted: Sure. Batman killed them all on the ark for humping Mrs Noah. That's why there's a dead stuffed one in the batcave. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: There’s personal beliefs and then there’s, “waterfalls of liquid oxygen droplets in the atmosphere” kind of beliefs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: For a guy who doesn’t want to be shamed for intensely personal beliefs, your first instincts are telling. Very tedious Mr. 45. Very tedious. There’s personal beliefs and then there’s, “waterfalls of liquid oxygen droplets in the atmosphere” kind of beliefs. Oh yes. Your special. I understand. Tedious. |
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Quoted: Oh yes. Your special. I understand. Tedious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For a guy who doesn’t want to be shamed for intensely personal beliefs, your first instincts are telling. Very tedious Mr. 45. Very tedious. There’s personal beliefs and then there’s, “waterfalls of liquid oxygen droplets in the atmosphere” kind of beliefs. Oh yes. Your special. I understand. Tedious. Wait a minute. I want to find out if what he's saying is gospel or not. |
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Quoted: Wait a minute. I what to find out if what he's saying is gospel or not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For a guy who doesn’t want to be shamed for intensely personal beliefs, your first instincts are telling. Very tedious Mr. 45. Very tedious. There’s personal beliefs and then there’s, “waterfalls of liquid oxygen droplets in the atmosphere” kind of beliefs. Oh yes. Your special. I understand. Tedious. Wait a minute. I what to find out if what he's saying is gospel or not. I kinda doubt he considers anything but his opinions sacred. You must bow and beg and all of that erudite kaka. It’s the current year. We live in a society. |
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Quoted: I kinda doubt he considers anything but his opinions are sacred. It’s the current year. We live in a society. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For a guy who doesn’t want to be shamed for intensely personal beliefs, your first instincts are telling. Very tedious Mr. 45. Very tedious. There’s personal beliefs and then there’s, “waterfalls of liquid oxygen droplets in the atmosphere” kind of beliefs. Oh yes. Your special. I understand. Tedious. Wait a minute. I what to find out if what he's saying is gospel or not. I kinda doubt he considers anything but his opinions are sacred. It’s the current year. We live in a society. So, a Supreme Being doesn't sit well with him? You know, One that doesn't ask permission before He acts or anything? His chances of this being absolutely correct is almost 87 percent currently. The # goes up every day now. I think in the midst if this, "society" right now He is being quite patient indeed. Quite patient. Yet, He will act in His own timing and in His own way. Then everyone will know. |
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Quoted: So, a Supreme Being doesn't sit well with him? You know, One that doesn't ask permission before He acts? His chances of this being absolutely correct is almost 87 percent currently. The # goes up every day now. I think in the mist if this, "society" right now He is being quite patient indeed. Quite patient. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For a guy who doesn’t want to be shamed for intensely personal beliefs, your first instincts are telling. Very tedious Mr. 45. Very tedious. There’s personal beliefs and then there’s, “waterfalls of liquid oxygen droplets in the atmosphere” kind of beliefs. Oh yes. Your special. I understand. Tedious. Wait a minute. I what to find out if what he's saying is gospel or not. I kinda doubt he considers anything but his opinions are sacred. It’s the current year. We live in a society. So, a Supreme Being doesn't sit well with him? You know, One that doesn't ask permission before He acts? His chances of this being absolutely correct is almost 87 percent currently. The # goes up every day now. I think in the mist if this, "society" right now He is being quite patient indeed. Quite patient. I don’t have an opinion. I just want to grill for heavens sakes! |
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Quoted: I don’t have an opinion. I just want to grill for heavens sakes! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For a guy who doesn’t want to be shamed for intensely personal beliefs, your first instincts are telling. Very tedious Mr. 45. Very tedious. There’s personal beliefs and then there’s, “waterfalls of liquid oxygen droplets in the atmosphere” kind of beliefs. Oh yes. Your special. I understand. Tedious. Wait a minute. I what to find out if what he's saying is gospel or not. I kinda doubt he considers anything but his opinions are sacred. It’s the current year. We live in a society. So, a Supreme Being doesn't sit well with him? You know, One that doesn't ask permission before He acts? His chances of this being absolutely correct is almost 87 percent currently. The # goes up every day now. I think in the mist if this, "society" right now He is being quite patient indeed. Quite patient. I don’t have an opinion. I just want to grill for heavens sakes! Attached File |
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Everything in creation testifies about God’s creation. We recognize complex ordered patterns as having to have been produced by intelligence, but when we look at the bigger picture of the universe or biology and see an infinite layering of complex processes we deny that an intelligent creator could have been behind it.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For a guy who doesn’t want to be shamed for intensely personal beliefs, your first instincts are telling. Very tedious Mr. 45. Very tedious. There’s personal beliefs and then there’s, “waterfalls of liquid oxygen droplets in the atmosphere” kind of beliefs. Oh yes. Your special. I understand. Tedious. Wait a minute. I what to find out if what he's saying is gospel or not. I kinda doubt he considers anything but his opinions are sacred. It’s the current year. We live in a society. So, a Supreme Being doesn't sit well with him? You know, One that doesn't ask permission before He acts? His chances of this being absolutely correct is almost 87 percent currently. The # goes up every day now. I think in the mist if this, "society" right now He is being quite patient indeed. Quite patient. I don’t have an opinion. I just want to grill for heavens sakes! /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/biggerSafeSpace-5.jpg Dinosaurs, Seraphim, liquid atmospheres, vacuums? I just want to grill for heavens sakes! |
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Quoted: Everything in creation testifies about God’s creation. We recognize complex ordered patterns as having to have been produced by intelligence, but when we look at the bigger picture of the universe or biology and see an infinite layering of complex processes we deny that an intelligent creator could have been behind it. View Quote Ok. Show me domesticated house at fossils from the same time period as dinosaurs. Look. Divine intervention isn't impossible, but the story presented in the Bible is so ludacris that can't possibly mean to use it as a factual source. |
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Quoted: Ok. Show me domesticated house at fossils from the same time period as dinosaurs. Look. Divine intervention isn't impossible, but the story presented in the Bible is so ludacris that can't possibly mean to use it as a factual source. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Everything in creation testifies about God’s creation. We recognize complex ordered patterns as having to have been produced by intelligence, but when we look at the bigger picture of the universe or biology and see an infinite layering of complex processes we deny that an intelligent creator could have been behind it. Ok. Show me domesticated house at fossils from the same time period as dinosaurs. Look. Divine intervention isn't impossible, but the story presented in the Bible is so ludacris that can't possibly mean to use it as a factual source. I agree by the way. I think that all religions are creation mythology. But then I think pop scientism is creation mythology quackery too. But the story is that the world was inhabited by fallen angels before it was remade in Genesis. Humans replenished it. FWIW Then humans and most other life was genetically tainted by fallen angels, and the earth was purged again. My point is that if you are a purist Christian that follows the word exactly there’s an easier way to fit dinosaurs into the mix using the Bible. I don’t know if Jesus existed but he gave some really good advice. Love your neighbors. Keep your rifle by your side. Be prepared to head for the hills. The government is always trying to kill you. Don’t trust money lenders or the law. Some people are possessed by demons, temptation is to be avoided. Etc etc. If you believe that I don’t care what you think dinosaurs are. We can be friends. I don’t care if you think my personal vices will get me sent to a lake of fire. You might be right. I just want to grill. |
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No. I am at a loss to explain how creation happened. We have tons of good theories. And we have a Bible that is or isn't at odds with those theories depending on who is reading it and why.
In a world where everyone has to be an expert, i just don't know for sure. |
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Quoted: before you make fun stop everything and go watch this documentary. its called ''Is Genesis History? - Watch the Full Film'' found it on youtube Premiered Mar 26, 2020 scientists cover all aspects you have in mind in this documentary and follow up series. proof dinos and global pre flood world was vastly different than we once thought. my quick opinion its not like public schools teach or jurassic park hollywood films. for instance the oxygen in atmosphere had to have been many times what it is post flood for a pterosaur to fly and sauropods to breathe thru pin hole sized nostrils that much is confirmed. the bible says it hadnt ever rained until the day GOD shut the door to the ark. basically there was enormous amounts of liquified droplets and oxygen in the air like being near a waterfall if you can imagine. kind of interesting. these creatures did exist and yes the bible says they were created along side man. keep in mind they were not created as you see them in the fossil record. 2 reasons for that. one is that GOD created them and everything else and it was perfect and good. and 2 the bible describes the fall of man when sin entered into the world and murder entered into the world thats when thorns and flesh eating creatures entered into the world. it was like a default mechanism built into the animals for when man sinned and murdered. the research area of religion your looking at is called genisis apologetics or simply ''apologetics''. apologetics has little to do with true Chritianity as GOD states that without faith its impossible to please him. also we have our own free will to believe or disbelieve for instance if you believe the bible at all GOD sends a strong delusion to those who would not believe. i hope i didnt misqoute anything. ill come back and spend more time on this maybe. i could talk all day for a week about this in person as ive studied it way too much. View Quote |
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The Bible never mentions how old the earth is.
If you look at the first two verses of Genesis, in the original Hebrew, God created a perfect world in verse one. Verse two, the earth became void. A cataclysm happened around 12,000 years ago. It is a several hour study, but it can be documented. Science even documents this. |
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We homeschool our kids with a Christian-based curriculum.
When it comes to stories about creation or the flood, we took that opportunity to explain the difference between literal and figurative meaning in the Bible. My 9 year old was skeptical about Adam and Eve right out of the gate. “daddy, if Adam and Eve were the first people, they had babies right? Who did their babies have kids with?” I like that we’re raising kids with faith but who are also critical thinkers. |
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Dinosaurs were long before man, well maybe Keith Richards was around.
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Quoted: Quoted: The story about the Nephilim also includes animals. These grotesque animals might have been the product of unlawful carnal knowledge from fallen angels (Book of Enoch). The flood was used to cleanse the earth of this evil. The scripture does mention Satyrs. Prototypes don't go into mass production right away, correct?. Was Noah the final concept( per enoch) Enoch was a good read....gets the brain juices flowing. His journey with the angles through time/space and how everything is judged is very cool. |
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Birds are literal dinosaurs. So, if you really want to stretch it yes?
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"discussing the possibility that dinosaurs were aboard the ark and died later due to climate change."
I think I had a stroke.... |
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Hank Williams Jr - Dinosaur |
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Quoted: before you make fun stop everything and go watch this documentary. its called ''Is Genesis History? - Watch the Full Film'' found it on youtube Premiered Mar 26, 2020 scientists cover all aspects you have in mind in this documentary and follow up series. proof dinos and global pre flood world was vastly different than we once thought. my quick opinion its not like public schools teach or jurassic park hollywood films. for instance the oxygen in atmosphere had to have been many times what it is post flood for a pterosaur to fly and sauropods to breathe thru pin hole sized nostrils that much is confirmed. the bible says it hadnt ever rained until the day GOD shut the door to the ark. basically there was enormous amounts of liquified droplets and oxygen in the air like being near a waterfall if you can imagine. kind of interesting. these creatures did exist and yes the bible says they were created along side man. keep in mind they were not created as you see them in the fossil record. 2 reasons for that. one is that GOD created them and everything else and it was perfect and good. and 2 the bible describes the fall of man when sin entered into the world and murder entered into the world thats when thorns and flesh eating creatures entered into the world. it was like a default mechanism built into the animals for when man sinned and murdered. the research area of religion your looking at is called genisis apologetics or simply ''apologetics''. apologetics has little to do with true Chritianity as GOD states that without faith its impossible to please him. also we have our own free will to believe or disbelieve for instance if you believe the bible at all GOD sends a strong delusion to those who would not believe. i hope i didnt misqoute anything. ill come back and spend more time on this maybe. i could talk all day for a week about this in person as ive studied it way too much. View Quote Interesting. Thanks for your post and I appreciate you taking the time to type it. |
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Quoted: I'm reading articles discussing the possibility that dinosaurs were aboard the ark and died later due to climate change. The other animals not a board the ark perished in the flood of course. Given there's at least some scientific evidence of a world wide flood, what are the odds that man coexisted alongside dinosaurs instead of coming much later? How would that even have worked? Discuss if you like and provide as much or little evidence that you have to bolster your argument. Or just shit post I guess. I'm trying to wrap my mind around these concepts and theories after a couple of beers. Biblically based theory on dinosaurs View Quote That's an interesting angle targeted at biblical fundamentalists... |
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Nothing in the Bible, nothing, says how many times God has drawn on this chalkboard we call a planet and erased it
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lol, any time you see a thread with both 'Dinosaurs' and the 'Bible' in the topic, you know it's gonna be entertaining.
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No. Dinosaur were pre man. Don't get hung up on time lines, years, days etc. in the Bible. God will reveal all to you later. Enjoy a Christian Life of low worry and stress.
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Not everything in the Bible is meant to be taken literally. It’s a book of stories, the vast majority are either fiction or the truth has long since been lost in translation. It to help guide you on making good life decisions.
It doesn’t mean there was literally a flood and that there were 2 of each animal to repopulate the world. All animals would be inbred as fuck if this were true. Not to mention there is not realistic way the planet could entirely be covered in water. I like to focus on science and use religion and faith where science is lacking like how and why the Big Bang happened. Bigger picture stuff like why does the universe exist in the first place |
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Quoted: We homeschool our kids with a Christian-based curriculum. When it comes to stories about creation or the flood, we took that opportunity to explain the difference between literal and figurative meaning in the Bible. My 9 year old was skeptical about Adam and Eve right out of the gate. “daddy, if Adam and Eve were the first people, they had babies right? Who did their babies have kids with?” I like that we’re raising kids with faith but who are also critical thinkers. View Quote Wouldn't the answer to that be the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve had children together? |
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Quoted: The Bible never mentions how old the earth is. If you look at the first two verses of Genesis, in the original Hebrew, God created a perfect world in verse one. Verse two, the earth became void. A cataclysm happened around 12,000 years ago. It is a several hour study, but it can be documented. Science even documents this. View Quote This. Add to that the two creation stories. Genesis 1 and Genesis 3. Different events, the one in chapter 3 being our own little iteration of planet earth. Also, contrast creation with evolution. What, same picture? The animals came first, then man? Study the book. They didn't go into detail about what happened previous because it's not relevant. The earth, the solar system, everything was different the first time around. Concerning yourself with what happened before about 5000 years ago is a collasal waste of energy. None of it would be relevant to our existence. And if a day to God is 1000 years to us, then 12000-7000= you guessed it, 5000 years. That's pretty much the extent of our known history. Our oldest recorded literature. Our most accruate scientific calculations. Older than that, and things get sketchy, and people disagree. The people who were here before us are not here anymore. The world that was here no longer exists. So, take a deep breath and live your best life. |
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