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Posted: 3/19/2014 1:44:08 PM EDT
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![Discussion Forums](/images/2016/spacer.gif) Quote HistoryQuoted:Europe and Asia are the same land mass. The western civilization concept of a "Europe" as a continental land mass distinct from an "Asia" dates back to when we thought the world looked like this: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=61947We now know better. Continental dividing lines used by custom are arbitrary, about as scientific as dividing lines between "races," so maybe you are trying to show solidarity with that crowd by being stuck in another era. If there is any benefit in maintain a concept of a Europe separate from an "Asia" it is one of culture. Russia represents savage nothingness that was settled by Europeans before it was conquered by Mongols, and now it has become its own special derplandia. Peter the great knew Russia was not European, and tried to pull the culture that way. Yet, Russia has a way of taking only the worst from other cultures, and rejecting the good. This is a map that might allow for more clear dividing lines between Europe and Asia, FWIW. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=61948 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes ![Discussion Forums](/images/2016/spacer.gif) Quote HistoryQuoted:Quoted:Quoted:Quoted:Quoted:
So, Russia is Europe because an insignificant Mountain range that doesn't even reach all the way down the land mass is a clear, non disputable definer of what is Europe?
Russia is the bastard mongrel cultural offspring of the Mongols and Kieven Rus (and possibly some Orcs), with a weird love/hate thing for Europe, and no concept of the shared heritage and cultural understanding of actual Europeans.
The geographical borders of Europe have been defined for centuries, the Urals are what separates Europe from Asia. Arguing otherwise is silly. Culturally, the Russians are a mix between influences from Central and Northern Europe, as well as from the peoples of the steppe. The Russians are the red-haired step children of Europe, but they're still European. People used to think the sun revolved around the Earth. Only on Arfcom have I encountered people who try to redefine European geography. ![](/images/smilies/anim_lol.gif) This is grade-school geography. Europe and Asia are the same land mass. The western civilization concept of a "Europe" as a continental land mass distinct from an "Asia" dates back to when we thought the world looked like this: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=61947We now know better. Continental dividing lines used by custom are arbitrary, about as scientific as dividing lines between "races," so maybe you are trying to show solidarity with that crowd by being stuck in another era. If there is any benefit in maintain a concept of a Europe separate from an "Asia" it is one of culture. Russia represents savage nothingness that was settled by Europeans before it was conquered by Mongols, and now it has become its own special derplandia. Peter the great knew Russia was not European, and tried to pull the culture that way. Yet, Russia has a way of taking only the worst from other cultures, and rejecting the good. This is a map that might allow for more clear dividing lines between Europe and Asia, FWIW. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=61948
You missed Kaliningrad. ![](/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif)
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