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Quoted: Just an observation. If you wouldn't hunt any of those animals with a 10mm, why would you carry a 10mm? View Quote There's a video of a guy snowmobiling who shot a moose with a Glock fotay and Mr. Moose flopped right over. My kids are small enough to be predator snack size. I've pointed a few guns at black bears but never had to shoot. I've never seen a moose in the wild but they seem like giant mean horses. |
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Quoted: Rattlesnakes. View Quote She's really scared of snakes. My son said it wasn't a rattlesnake and didn't seem to care. |
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Quoted: I was kind of joking at the ubiquity of Glock 10mm as the "outdoorsman's pistol" these days. There's a video of a guy snowmobiling who shot a moose with a Glock fotay and Mr. Moose flopped right over. My kids are small enough to be predator snack size. I've pointed a few guns at black bears but never had to shoot. I've never seen a moose in the wild but they seem like giant mean horses. View Quote They're cheap, big and hold a lot of ammo. They generally work, but occaisionally blow up, not very often though. You know you're going to get one plus a chest holster, so why fight it? |
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I consider a G20 a minimum caliber for a woods gun in remote areas. My go to is a Ruger Alaskan and after carrying that you will appreciate the Glock.
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Quoted: I have a 10mm Sig but I'd rather be eaten than lug it around. View Quote Down here we have the deadliest snake known to man, the RattleCobraCopperMocassin. LC |
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Methed out in individual followed by bear and a close 3rd of moose.
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moose will stomp a mudhole in you. we lived in Park City for a while and had one in the backyard. really big and really dgaf about you. thay're particularly surly when they have calves or it's breeding season or it's daylight or dark. i'd stay away from horses, too.
cougars, both 2 and 4 legged, abound, as well and the mexican food and barbeque sux there, too. |
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Quoted: Quoted: You will see exactly zero of those listed in Utah. Cougars will see you though. I've seen a bear in Utah. I have trail cam footage of Bear , Cougar , Bobcat , Moose , all with in 200yards of my house |
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Quoted: I’d like to hear more about Danger Moths. View Quote Up in the NWT of Canada. I had never had an allergic reaction to an insect bite/sting prior to this, or since. My airway started closing in. I could still walk and manage the pack, but for a half hour or so, it was notable. Cleared up, though. Fucking weird. I mean, who gets attacked by a moth? Ok, who besides Godzilla? We already had one guy down with a terrible fever, a really scary fever. The next day, I had a massive histamine attack - my skin was bright red, I felt like I was on fire, uncontrollable itching and burning for the better part of a half hour, even after soaking in cold water for twenty minutes or more. So, maybe it was the same infection that brought down our other team member, or the moth that bit/stung me as we were descending down into treeline. Who knows. What I do know is that I would have totally fucked that moth's day if I got a round on target with a 10mm, assuming I didn't shoot myself, or my friends in the process. |
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9mm is the handgun caliber with the most documented bear kills
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Quoted: Up in the NWT of Canada. I had never had an allergic reaction to an insect bite/sting prior to this, or since. My airway started closing in. I could still walk and manage the pack, but for a half hour or so, it was notable. Cleared up, though. Fucking weird. I mean, who gets attacked by a moth? Ok, who besides Godzilla? We already had one guy down with a terrible fever, a really scary fever. The next day, I had a massive histamine attack - my skin was bright red, I felt like I was on fire, uncontrollable itching and burning for the better part of a half hour, even after soaking in cold water for twenty minutes or more. So, maybe it was the same infection that brought down our other team member, or the moth that bit/stung me as we were descending down into treeline. Who knows. What I do know is that I would have totally fucked that moth's day if I got a round on target with a 10mm, assuming I didn't shoot myself, or my friends in the process. View Quote Nuts! I guess I didn't even know that moths could bite. Gonna have to add that to the list of ways that I could die. |
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Quoted: I have had multiple, scary, dangerous run ins with moose. I have never had any dangerous encounter with a bear. View Quote Yep, we've got a huge bull moose that walks by the house daily, we named him Marty, but he scares the shit out of me when I don't see him and then there he is staring at me. Yesterday I was working in the field with the tractor and I turned around to do the next row and there he was staring at me, and that bastard is 3ft taller than me on my big ass tractor. There's no way in hell I'm out running a moose on a tractor, or my feet so I just hoped he'd go away while I drove away slowly. |
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Quoted: Yep, we've got a huge bull moose that walks by the house daily, we named him Marty, but he scares the shit out of me when I don't see him and then there he is staring at me. Yesterday I was working in the field with the tractor and I turned around to do the next row and there he was staring at me, and that bastard is 3ft taller than me on my big ass tractor. There's no way in hell I'm out running a moose on a tractor, or my feet so I just hoped he'd go away while I drove away slowly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I have had multiple, scary, dangerous run ins with moose. I have never had any dangerous encounter with a bear. Yep, we've got a huge bull moose that walks by the house daily, we named him Marty, but he scares the shit out of me when I don't see him and then there he is staring at me. Yesterday I was working in the field with the tractor and I turned around to do the next row and there he was staring at me, and that bastard is 3ft taller than me on my big ass tractor. There's no way in hell I'm out running a moose on a tractor, or my feet so I just hoped he'd go away while I drove away slowly. Moose are no joke. But that’s not a big ass tractor, either. |
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Quoted: I have had multiple, scary, dangerous run ins with moose. I have never had any dangerous encounter with a bear. View Quote I have. It's funny, because I've encountered dozens of grizzly and black bear on the roadside and while hiking and never had a dangerous encounter there...both times I have had dangerous encounters were inside campgrounds. |
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I've come close to shooting dogs a couple of times and I had a rifle out once with a bear but he/she wasn't really threatening and I didn't need the trouble of shooting a bear in the middle of summer in NY.
My wife and I were hiking in western Canada once and we came down off a mountain and were in a dark area where trees over grew the path. Something or other stood up on it's hind legs on the path. It wasn't very big, but bigger than a squirrel, maybe skunk size? It was hard to tell as it was pretty dark under the trees. It blocked the path so I pulled out bear spray and told my wife maybe it was a wolverine and I was going to blast it. My wife was all like "That's a squirrel don't do it" and similar unhelpful girl talk. It got suspicious that I might be a dick about the whole situation and ran off before I had to a chance to blast him. At dinner my wife told the waiter I had been trying to shoot a marmot with pepper spray "Oh tee hee monsiour there are no wolverines around here" Oh we were hiking in the Alps and my wife went running past me. She had wandered between a sheep or ram or whatever and a baby sheep. The adult sheep decided to kick wifey's ass, and let me tell you, for a egghead who works inside all day that girl can fucking run like a greyhound when she thinks the end is near. She ran past and I saw this stupid farm animal barreling down on me and thought "Well I can't run too" (don't get married) so I stood there as it got closer then thought "This fucker is going to Brownells me" (okay this was pre brownells) so I brought up one of my aluminum hiking sticks and braced myself with the sharp end pointed towards the enemy. She (the sheep I think it was) did stop when it realized I was going to ram (or bend anyway) and aluminum rod into her head. edit afterwards I said "You ran past me so the stupid sheep would go after me!' "I'm a girl, you have to handle animals" We passed through some pastures with some fucking terrifying bulls in Switzerland. I walked between them and my wife but boy I was not convinced this was a good idea. I read a few years afterwards that a french lady was killed by one of them. |
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Quoted: Not a very good observation. I'm not going to carry a 45-70 on a casual hike. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just an observation. If you wouldn't hunt any of those animals with a 10mm, why would you carry a 10mm? Not a very good observation. I'm not going to carry a 45-70 on a casual hike. Why not? 45-70 master race signaling is a good thing. I’ve never had a bad bear encounter, but I’m still beat phobic. My dad was once chased up a tree by a moose. It was before my time, and before everyone had a camera, but I would love to have a video of that event. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just an observation. If you wouldn't hunt any of those animals with a 10mm, why would you carry a 10mm? Not a very good observation. I'm not going to carry a 45-70 on a casual hike. Why not? Because it's fucking heavy. |
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Just use 9mm and Buffalo bore hard cast bullets and you’re good.
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Get a G29 and add a 4.5" KKM barrel. Carries like a G19, hits like a G20.
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I’ve seen bears there, I’d want a 10mm if I was in the backcountry a lot. A hot 9mm would work in a pinch but I wouldn’t want to have to test that.
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I'd say you failed to add Buffalo, but they would kill you for having a 10mm.
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View Quote I meant OP would see none of them. |
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Deer by FAR.
And there's very little you can do about it, no gun will save you period. Hardly anybody I know doesn't at least know somebody who hit a deer while driving at night, the lucky ones lived to tell about it. |
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