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Link Posted: 9/26/2019 9:07:58 PM EST
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It's ridiculous to claim Trump is trying to strong arm Ukraine and yet let Biden slide on what he did and bragged about it.

If he really had balls he'd announce he's going to be making a statement or whatever to get it on all the tv stations. No info leak on what he'll say
Go on tv and say I didn't strong anyone. I just asked them to look in to the wrong doings. Then grab his remote for the screen thats behind him and play a clip of Biden saying how he gave them 6hrs to fire the prosecutor, with holding aid and bragging about it. Turn the screen off.
That ladies and gentlemen is strong arming a country because they were looking into wrong doings by his son.
I did no such thing and it's shameful the way you willingly over look this but yet try to accuse me.
Continue to lie to the American people with hearsay, half truths and then out right lies. I presented the truth from the horses mouth.
and then leave without taking any questions.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 9:09:21 PM EST
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Well this destroys the narrative,  if true

Link Posted: 9/26/2019 9:17:17 PM EST
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"I hearby announce my candidacy for President of the United States of America"
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 9:40:32 PM EST
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"Ukrainian officials were asking for a meeting with Trump for along time. As I remember, it was a clear fact that Trump wants to meet only if Biden case will be included,” said Serhiy Leshchenko, an anti-corruption advocate and former member of Ukraine's Parliament, who had been a former adviser to Zelenskiy but has recently been distanced from the administration. "This issue was raised many times. I know that Ukrainian officials understood."
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 11:04:31 PM EST
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Crowdstrike
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 11:12:15 PM EST
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"Ukrainian officials were asking for a meeting with Trump for along time. As I remember, it was a clear fact that Trump wants to meet only if Biden case will be included,” said Serhiy Leshchenko, an anti-corruption advocate and former member of Ukraine's Parliament, who had been a former adviser to Zelenskiy but has recently been distanced from the administration. "This issue was raised many times. I know that Ukrainian officials understood."
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Ahhhhh too bad. Your talking point is a lie.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 4:51:47 AM EST
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No one is arguing that Biden's status as a candidate absolves him of an investigation, the argument is how Trump pursued an investigation.
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Pretty dang SERIOUS, the charges against Trump. Like THE MOST SERIOUS thing he has done yet!
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 4:54:09 AM EST
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Yes, and that inquiry should have been conducted by someone that does not stand to directly benefit from such a inquiry.
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Lol.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 4:55:14 AM EST
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What did he say?  'Hello, is the President of the United States calling...'
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:03:11 AM EST
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If he admitted to murder then that investigation should go to the appropriate agency and not be conducted by someone who has something to gain politically.
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I was unaware that Trump is conducting any investigation. He just asked for cooperation with the doj and Ukrainian officials.
If Biden broke the law, and it seems he did, and admitted as much on video, it is his actions, not the investigators who will torpedo his campaign.
Do nothing wrong, won't be any issues.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:09:44 AM EST
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If Biden isn't his opponent then why is Trump talking about him on Twitter?
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Because he is a career politician who is corrupt to the core?
If the primaries were over, and Trump had secret fisa warrants issued to spy on his campaign, you might have a point.
Right now, he is just in the field of folks running for the nomination, no one in that sorry pack has received a single vote as of yet.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:14:44 AM EST
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Where did I make the argument that Biden would get a pass?  The problem lies not with an investigation, but with how potentially Trump pursued it
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POTENTIALLY!!!!!
So you are admitting you have no evidence, only hope.
Pack it up boys, Trump POTENTIALLY did something wrong, if you squint and hold your mouth just right.
He should clean out the oval office, and let creepy joe move in.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:17:09 AM EST
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So there is evidence then?
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Third hand heresay, so no. Nothing that could be used in any proceedings by sane people.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:21:03 AM EST
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Whether the evidence is good or bad is mostly irrelevant here.  Personally, I think the evidence is not very good, but that was not the question posed.
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If by not very good you mean there is no evidence, then I would agree with you.
Bad evidence is the same as none.
Keep hoping, it is all you have at this point.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:26:05 AM EST
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Nothing.  McConnel announced they would sit a Supreme in an election year.  RBG is probably in worse health than is publicly known.  They realized that none of their candidates can beat President Trump next year.  Pelosi has lost control of her party to the socialists. At this point, they would accuse him of witchcraft if they thought it would stick.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:28:19 AM EST
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All the other accusations up to this point leveled by the left were baseless. It's different this time, I'm sure.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:34:16 AM EST
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Do contributions only constitute tangible contributions per the law?
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Lol, a world leader asked another world leader to have his doj get with our doj, to conclude an investigation started before either were in power.
It is a continuation of an existing investigation, not something Trump cooked up.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:34:24 AM EST
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Just curious.

I read the transcript and if impeachment Is solely on his call to the Ukraine President, what was the specific law broken?
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I quit watching the news.  I am sick of it all.  Nothing but negativity, hate, despair and bias.  Those very things are fueling the impeachment because people are being told by the MSM.

Now, that said the president could put down his twitter account and go to work.  A little is okay but tweeting nonstop like a crazy 19 yo girl is out of hand.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:39:44 AM EST
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No, there is a legal way of investigating political corruption by a past elected official that would not potentially run afoul of campaign finance law.  Perhaps you should seek some education on the matter.
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This is not a new investigation. It was initiated by obammy, and has yet to be concluded.

If a corrupt official has his plans to be president ruined by a criminal conviction, it seems to me everyone benefits not having a criminal elected president.
Your weak assed argument is weak, and you should be ashamed.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 5:48:41 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/27/2019 11:38:17 AM EST
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I quit watching the news.  I am sick of it all.  Nothing but negativity, hate, despair and bias.  Those very things are fueling the impeachment because people are being told by the MSM.

Now, that said the president could put down his twitter account and go to work.  A little is okay but tweeting nonstop like a crazy 19 yo girl is out of hand.
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His Twitter is out of hand at times
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:04:13 PM EST
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I quit watching the news.  I am sick of it all.  Nothing but negativity, hate, despair and bias.  Those very things are fueling the impeachment because people are being told by the MSM.

Now, that said the president could put down his twitter account and go to work.  A little is okay but tweeting nonstop like a crazy 19 yo girl is out of hand.
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With the MSM being the way it is, tweeting is probably one of the only avenues for Trump to communicate directly to the people, without leftist bias.

Trump could say 'It's a beautiful Day',and the left would turn it into Trump hates evenings!
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:12:29 PM EST
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Just curious.

I read the transcript and if impeachment Is solely on his call to the Ukraine President, what was the specific law broken?
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They don't know but if they keep trying they will figure something out. My guess is he will be out of office before they do.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:28:02 PM EST
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Ahhhhh too bad. Your talking point is a lie.
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Believe whatever you want to believe.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:34:20 PM EST
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Believe whatever you want to believe.
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Apparently what you believe is not realty

"Leshchenko rejected the ABC story just hours after it was published, telling Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty's Christopher Miller that he "DID NOT tell ABC insistence for leaders to discuss Biden probe was precondition for call."

ABC's Bombshell Ukraine Story Falls ApartReport incorrectly labeled former adviser to Zelensky, source now disputes story

https://freebeacon.com/politics/abcs-bombshell-ukraine-story-falls-apart/
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:39:23 PM EST
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Apparently what you believe is not realty

"Leshchenko rejected the ABC story just hours after it was published, telling Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty's Christopher Miller that he "DID NOT tell ABC insistence for leaders to discuss Biden probe was precondition for call."

ABC's Bombshell Ukraine Story Falls ApartReport incorrectly labeled former adviser to Zelensky, source now disputes story

https://freebeacon.com/politics/abcs-bombshell-ukraine-story-falls-apart/
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Meh...
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:41:14 PM EST
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The democrats very clearly stated that they would seek impeachment as early as 5 mins after the results of the election were available. They're just looking for any excuse to go through with it. Trump could put the toilet paper under instead of over and they'd appoint a special prosecutor over it.
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In that specific impeachment is the right answer.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:47:59 PM EST
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His Twitter is out of hand at times
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His twitter is about the only way he can get his message out without spin, and that, is sad as fuck.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:50:13 PM EST
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Apparently what you believe is not realty

"Leshchenko rejected the ABC story just hours after it was published, telling Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty's Christopher Miller that he "DID NOT tell ABC insistence for leaders to discuss Biden probe was precondition for call."

ABC's Bombshell Ukraine Story Falls ApartReport incorrectly labeled former adviser to Zelensky, source now disputes story

https://freebeacon.com/politics/abcs-bombshell-ukraine-story-falls-apart/
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Believe whatever you want to believe.
Apparently what you believe is not realty

"Leshchenko rejected the ABC story just hours after it was published, telling Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty's Christopher Miller that he "DID NOT tell ABC insistence for leaders to discuss Biden probe was precondition for call."

ABC's Bombshell Ukraine Story Falls ApartReport incorrectly labeled former adviser to Zelensky, source now disputes story

https://freebeacon.com/politics/abcs-bombshell-ukraine-story-falls-apart/
Well that's inconvenient.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:51:58 PM EST
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Meh...
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Apparently what you believe is not realty

"Leshchenko rejected the ABC story just hours after it was published, telling Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty's Christopher Miller that he "DID NOT tell ABC insistence for leaders to discuss Biden probe was precondition for call."

ABC's Bombshell Ukraine Story Falls ApartReport incorrectly labeled former adviser to Zelensky, source now disputes story

https://freebeacon.com/politics/abcs-bombshell-ukraine-story-falls-apart/
Meh...


Leshchenko later told a BBC reporter that he had learned of a possible precondition only through media reports.
ABC corrected the story to note that Leshchenko has also not been an adviser to Zelensky for months.

But ABC's initial story left out several key details about Leshchenko that would have raised questions about his thoughts on U.S.-Ukraine relations, and of Trump.

Nellie Ohr testified to Congress on Oct. 19, 2018, that Leshchenko was a source of information for Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm that gathered dirt on Trump on behalf of the DNC and Clinton campaign. Ohr, who worked as a contractor for Fusion GPS, was unable to describe how the information made its way from Leshchenko to Fusion GPS.

Author credit    Chuck Ross

Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:57:20 PM EST
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His Twitter is out of hand at times
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I quit watching the news.  I am sick of it all.  Nothing but negativity, hate, despair and bias.  Those very things are fueling the impeachment because people are being told by the MSM.

Now, that said the president could put down his twitter account and go to work.  A little is okay but tweeting nonstop like a crazy 19 yo girl is out of hand.
His Twitter is out of hand at times
Honestly I think his most impeachable offense was when he said “I don’t like (suppressors)”
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 3:02:52 PM EST
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His Twitter is out of hand at times
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Respectfully I disagree. It's an asymmetrical attack, he has them lunging wildly into unwinnable positions with tiny little barbs here and there, they are wildly off foot and reacting to fient after feint.
His Twitter posting infuriates them and he is controlling the fight, he is taking their biggest weapon (the media) and reducing it's effectiveness by having them burn up credibility while chasing ghosts and obvious to the casual rational observer falsehoods.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 3:04:21 PM EST
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Yes, and that inquiry should have been conducted by someone that does not stand to directly benefit from such a inquiry.
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I fail to see how any of that is relevant to the potential violation.

If you are really bereft of a tangible argument that you have to make a personal attack against me, then maybe you should not engage in debates that are beyond your ability to understand sweatheart.
Discussion of such things is via the executive branch. It makes sense for the executive branch to work with foreign powers when it comes to the corruption of US officials.
Yes, and that inquiry should have been conducted by someone that does not stand to directly benefit from such a inquiry.
Does an investigation of Trump's actions benefit the Democrats, or do they believe such a thing would benefit them?

Should any investigatory committee be run by the opposing political party?
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 3:06:42 PM EST
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Respectfully I disagree. It's an asymmetrical attack, he has them lunging wildly into unwinnable positions with tiny little barbs here and there, they are wildly off foot and reacting to fient after feint.
His Twitter posting infuriates them and he is controlling the fight, he is taking their biggest weapon (the media) and reducing it's effectiveness by having them burn up credibility while chasing ghosts and obvious to the casual rational observer falsehoods.
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His Twitter is out of hand at times
Respectfully I disagree. It's an asymmetrical attack, he has them lunging wildly into unwinnable positions with tiny little barbs here and there, they are wildly off foot and reacting to fient after feint.
His Twitter posting infuriates them and he is controlling the fight, he is taking their biggest weapon (the media) and reducing it's effectiveness by having them burn up credibility while chasing ghosts and obvious to the casual rational observer falsehoods.
This.   I love me some T$witter.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 3:14:35 PM EST
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This.   I love me some T$witter.
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Trump shouldn't spend 5 minutes a day refuting a 3 year bombardment of lies against him and his supporters! He could use those 5 minutes a day to sit in the corner like a little bitch and let liberals run rough shod all over him!!!
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