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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:24:40 AM EDT
Obviously they copied all kinds of our stuff, albeit half-ass, I'm looking at you commie space shuttle.
What did the US copy? |
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Give our "leaders" a little more time and they will copy mass starvation.
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Quoted: Propaganda tactics against civilians. View Quote This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. |
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Socialism, surveillance, propaganda, election manipulation, elimination of political enemies, secret police tactics. You know, all the stuff that made the Soviet Union such a wonderful place to live
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We copied the VTOL system from the Yak-31. The F-35’s VTOL system is essentially the exact same system.Linkey.
They were also the first to use smooth bore tank cannons with APFSDS ammo. The Bradley is a response to the BMP and copies some of the concepts. There’s probably a few more in missile technology that are less obvious. |
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Quoted: This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Propaganda tactics against civilians. This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. I’m more worried about them giving a cobalt source to some terrorists and telling them to go have fun. |
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Quoted: I’m more worried about them giving a cobalt source to some terrorists and telling them to go have fun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Propaganda tactics against civilians. This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. I’m more worried about them giving a cobalt source to some terrorists and telling them to go have fun. Let me guess, we should 'fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here', or some other bullshit like what was shoved down our throats to justify trillions in military spending and a 25 year war after 911. |
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The M249 ripped off the AK/PK operating system, but the AK also ripped off the Remington Model 8 FCG. The TT-33 is a ripoff of Browning designs.
We copied Trotskyism, color revolutions, use of the word "Czar" for government officials, malicious government surveillance, pogroms, and use of federal LE to punish political opponents. Quoted: This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Propaganda tactics against civilians. This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. IMHO much of it is nostalgia, you see it in a lot of SM posts about Ukraine, and posts where people mention that they actually believe Russians facilitated the election of Donald Trump. A lot of people grew up in the wake of the Cuban Missile Crisis, with the looming specter of the USSR always on their mind; or joined the military at a time when it was expected that we'd go to war with the Russians, or at least expected that those who joined would. Instead, many of them got wrapped up in pointless ground occupations in the ME that traded American blood and wealth to replace the Taliban with the Taliban, and Saddam Hussein's regime with an Iranian puppet state. There are much more concerning threats that the United States should be focused on. Those who dwell on what was are showcasing a limited ability to critically process new information. |
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One type of our AT mine rollers is a Soviet design...at least Soviet inspired.
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Quoted: Election outcome control. View Quote Quoted: Propaganda tactics against civilians. View Quote The secret police |
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Insatiable desire to repeat Kremlin agitprop and view all advancement of Russian self-interest, even outright military invasion, as resistance to Western oppression and the decadence of Western life.
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Quoted: Obviously they copied all kinds of our stuff, albeit half-ass, I'm looking at you commie space shuttle. What did the US copy? View Quote |
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Quoted: Maybe not the same thing, but the hype and threat behind the MiG-25 was a strong influence on the development of the F-15: https://theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MiG-25-Propaganda.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmrTKeMacAAtLlM.jpg View Quote god damn that mig is FUGLY |
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Quoted: We copied the VTOL system from the Yak-31. The F-35’s VTOL system is essentially the exact same system.Linkey. They were also the first to use smooth bore tank cannons with APFSDS ammo. The Bradley is a response to the BMP and copies some of the concepts. There’s probably a few more in missile technology that are less obvious. View Quote Coaxial helicopter rotors. IRST - passive Infrared search & track. |
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Quoted: Maybe not the same thing, but the hype and threat behind the MiG-25 was a strong influence on the development of the F-15: https://theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MiG-25-Propaganda.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmrTKeMacAAtLlM.jpg View Quote After a bit of digging, it turns out there was a proposal for a fighter variant. Attached File |
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It seems to me we copied quite a few small arms concepts from them. Not so much mechanically copied, but ideas of use.
The RPD predated the M249 SAW by decades- but they have the same concept of being a belt-fed light machine gun in the same caliber as the infantry rifle. The RPK replaced the RPD, being a more heavy-duty variant of the infantry rifle, which could be seen as a sort of inspiration for the M27 IAR. The intermediate cartridge itself I think is a bit trickier to pin down. It seems to me the US, Germany, and Soviets all arrived at the concept in similar fashion. It could be argued the Russians had it first in the Federov, since although it does fire a rifle cartridge the 6.5x50mm Arisaka is a reduced power cartridge compared to 7.62x54mmR but I tend to think that’s a bit of a stretch. The thought was definitely there, though, so it could be argued. Although not popular opinion, I am probably most convinced the .30 Carbine cartridge is the first intermediate cartridge. Certainly the first to see mass issuance and success. I think calling it a “pistol cartridge” when from day one it was intended to be used in a shoulder-fired application is silly. Because it isn’t bottle-necked? Does that make .45-70 a pistol cartridge? It’s a primitive intermediate cartridge. |
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The USSR provided all the titanium needed to build our fleet of SR-71 Blackbirds. So in a roundabout sort of way, they gave us the fastest jet in the world.
(CIA set up hundreds of shell companies to stealthily buy up their supply of titanium). |
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Quoted: Maybe not the same thing, but the hype and threat behind the MiG-25 was a strong influence on the development of the F-15: https://theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MiG-25-Propaganda.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmrTKeMacAAtLlM.jpg View Quote Came here to post this. |
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Quoted: The M249 ripped off the AK/PK operating system, but the AK also ripped off the Remington Model 8 FCG. The TT-33 is a ripoff of Browning designs. We copied Trotskyism, color revolutions, use of the word "Czar" for government officials, malicious government surveillance, pogroms, and use of federal LE to punish political opponents. IMHO much of it is nostalgia, you see it in a lot of SM posts about Ukraine, and posts where people mention that they actually believe Russians facilitated the election of Donald Trump. A lot of people grew up in the wake of the Cuban Missile Crisis, with the looming specter of the USSR always on their mind; or joined the military at a time when it was expected that we'd go to war with the Russians, or at least expected that those who joined would. Instead, many of them got wrapped up in pointless ground occupations in the ME that traded American blood and wealth to replace the Taliban with the Taliban, and Saddam Hussein's regime with an Iranian puppet state. There are much more concerning threats that the United States should be focused on. Those who dwell on what was are showcasing a limited ability to critically process new information. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: The M249 ripped off the AK/PK operating system, but the AK also ripped off the Remington Model 8 FCG. The TT-33 is a ripoff of Browning designs. We copied Trotskyism, color revolutions, use of the word "Czar" for government officials, malicious government surveillance, pogroms, and use of federal LE to punish political opponents. IMHO much of it is nostalgia, you see it in a lot of SM posts about Ukraine, and posts where people mention that they actually believe Russians facilitated the election of Donald Trump. A lot of people grew up in the wake of the Cuban Missile Crisis, with the looming specter of the USSR always on their mind; or joined the military at a time when it was expected that we'd go to war with the Russians, or at least expected that those who joined would. Instead, many of them got wrapped up in pointless ground occupations in the ME that traded American blood and wealth to replace the Taliban with the Taliban, and Saddam Hussein's regime with an Iranian puppet state. There are much more concerning threats that the United States should be focused on. Those who dwell on what was are showcasing a limited ability to critically process new information. Spot on! Wish I could write so clearly and concisely. This site is lucky to have you. Quoted: Insatiable desire to repeat Kremlin agitprop and view all advancement of Russian self-interest, even outright military invasion, as resistance to Western oppression and the decadence of Western life. Also true. Honestly I’m kinda shocked you think this way. |
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Quoted: This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. View Quote Excellent point. 2023 Russia is not 1983 USSR. |
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.Gov Intel tactics, propaganda, capturing of media/education for state use (socialism), numerous weapons systems, rocket technology (I had a USSR defector physics teacher in college).
Seems like the USSR was beating us in space for a while......... but we landed on the moon. So we won the imaginary race to nowhere. Who do we ride to space with again? |
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Quoted: .Gov Intel tactics, propaganda, capturing of media/education for state use (socialism), numerous weapons systems, rocket technology (I had a USSR defector physics teacher in college). Seems like the USSR was beating us in space for a while......... but we landed on the moon. So we won the imaginary race to nowhere. Who do we ride to space with again? View Quote SpaceX? |
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Quoted: Quoted: .Gov Intel tactics, propaganda, capturing of media/education for state use (socialism), numerous weapons systems, rocket technology (I had a USSR defector physics teacher in college). Seems like the USSR was beating us in space for a while......... but we landed on the moon. So we won the imaginary race to nowhere. Who do we ride to space with again? SpaceX? Try harder |
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