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And like ambassador Taylor, it sounds like he is retelling conversations and actions to paint a picture of Trump acting dirty. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: He didn't agree with Trump’s policy. He complained. Because the leftist deep state is the organ that is supposed to make policy, not POTUS. Trump broke something. We already know that. The dude ought to be Court Martialed. Disloyalty, dare I say, treason. But he needs drummed out of the military. |
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so some O-5 got caught trying to edit things he didn't have permission to, and then ran to congress as a whistleblower to cover his ass
no wonder there were sudden articles complaining that Trump's conversations were on a secure server of course the Hillary Republicans on arfcom think that he's defending the constitution or some shit |
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New ‘Impeachment Inquiry’ Star Witness Admits Protecting the ‘Interagency’
Vindman says that he became concerned in the spring of 2019 about “outside influencers promoting a false narrative of Ukraine inconsistent with the consensus views of the interagency.” That concern for the fate of the “consensus views of the interagency” informed Vindman’s approach to the president’s contacts with Zelensky. He was pleased with Trump’s first congratulatory call to Zelensky in April 2019, but became alarmed in early July when the U.S. Ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, “started to speak about Ukraine delivering specific investigations in order to secure [a] meeting with the President.” Vindman does not identify those investigations. View Quote I don't understand how this is even any type of issue, even to those who don't like Trump. |
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Of course he is a double agent. Whom the other side is seems to be the only mystery.
The Ukraine he is loyal to is the Party of Regions/Putin Ukraine, which was basically Russia by a different name. The same one the dems were making all the deals with. After Poroshenko was elected with a promise to crack down on the oligarchs that was when Bidens, FBHO, and the crooked ambassador started turning the screws, because they wanted their old deals to continue. IMHO. Still waiting on those indictments. Any day now. |
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The LTC is influencing foreign policy that the President is entitled to dictate. It appears to be insubordination and usurpation of authority to me.
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There must be an Army Battalion in some desolate place that needs a new Commander.
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Benedict Arnold would be called a whistle blower today....just saying.
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You may recall that Zero removed every conservative Officer he could.
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The bigger picture is they tried to set him up with a charge of colluding with the Russians to throw the election - which was totally fabricated, with faked evidence planted in the news which was used to get a bought and paid for judge to approve a wiretap. That wiretap was supposedly meant to find actual conversations that could be twisted to substantiate the charges and provide more evidence. Trump moved out of Trump Towers and it all fell apart. From there, once in office, he investigated THEM and found evidence proving they were fabricating false charges, and in the process, committing high treason for their own personal interests. Since then it's become apparent why so many in politics were getting rich, how they were doing it, and who they were colluding with to make it happen. It's been a two year revelation of corruption, with El Chapo certainly icing the cake by saying in open court he bought and paid for Pelosi, Beto, and others in our government. Considering how they have been reacting to every opportunity to remove Trump from office, with some openly calling for his death, you have to wonder why things have moved so slowly. Welcome to the party, we've been watching this for quite some time. The latest chapter - to throw shade on Trump about anything Ukraine, because Ukraine has been a massive under the table payoff for most of the top Democrats, with payouts going to family, thru corporations and into their bank accounts. By making a lot of noise about it they are - once again - trying to confuse and misinform the voters. They do this with the complete collusion of the media, who is owned by 6 corporations now, and who has as a majority owner in all six a Saudi Prince who supports the Democrats agenda to oust Trump by any means possible. Don't be surprised when you see a consistent front of opposition from the major networks - it's ordered by the owner to do that regardless of the real facts. These are historic times and it's getting better every week. One revelation of corruption after another. View Quote Your posts recently have been on point 100%. Loving it, Thanks!! |
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Quoted: Vindman is saying if the sovereign government of Ukraine investigates democrats for looting their resources in the wake of the democrat backed coup, the democrat congress would not give Ukraine resources. That is what he is saying. Think about that! They are going to impeach Trump because democrats want to loot countries, and will withhold resources to those countries unless they can do so without legal consequences. View Quote |
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I'd like to know since everyone has the actual transcripts of the phone call - what witnesses claim they heard is largely about what? Just theatrics.
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Can you expand on the El Chapo connection? I hadn't heard of that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The bigger picture is they tried to set him up with a charge of colluding with the Russians to throw the election - which was totally fabricated, with faked evidence planted in the news which was used to get a bought and paid for judge to approve a wiretap. That wiretap was supposedly meant to find actual conversations that could be twisted to substantiate the charges and provide more evidence. Trump moved out of Trump Towers and it all fell apart. From there, once in office, he investigated THEM and found evidence proving they were fabricating false charges, and in the process, committing high treason for their own personal interests. Since then it's become apparent why so many in politics were getting rich, how they were doing it, and who they were colluding with to make it happen. It's been a two year revelation of corruption, with El Chapo certainly icing the cake by saying in open court he bought and paid for Pelosi, Beto, and others in our government. Considering how they have been reacting to every opportunity to remove Trump from office, with some openly calling for his death, you have to wonder why things have moved so slowly. Welcome to the party, we've been watching this for quite some time. The latest chapter - to throw shade on Trump about anything Ukraine, because Ukraine has been a massive under the table payoff for most of the top Democrats, with payouts going to family, thru corporations and into their bank accounts. By making a lot of noise about it they are - once again - trying to confuse and misinform the voters. They do this with the complete collusion of the media, who is owned by 6 corporations now, and who has as a majority owner in all six a Saudi Prince who supports the Democrats agenda to oust Trump by any means possible. Don't be surprised when you see a consistent front of opposition from the major networks - it's ordered by the owner to do that regardless of the real facts. These are historic times and it's getting better every week. One revelation of corruption after another. not tirod, but hope this helps. During El Chapo's trial, he testified he had bribed numerous politicians/people over the years...from all locations. He stated he gave ex-Presidente Pieto $100 million. Supposedly he then started blurting out the numerous American politicians he had also bribed, but was abruptly shut up and the courtroom cleared. "Rumors" are the CBP people immediately flew up to interrogate him and Additional DHS folks rushed in to get those politicians/others American names. BTW, there are photos of Pelosi & "Beto" where they seem quite close to Pieto who was/is quite close to El Chapo AND family. Hope this helps. |
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Quoted: Vindman is saying if the sovereign government of Ukraine investigates democrats for looting their resources in the wake of the democrat backed coup, the democrat congress would not give Ukraine resources. That is what he is saying. Think about that! They are going to impeach Trump because democrats want to loot countries, and will withhold resources to those countries unless they can do so without legal consequences. View Quote Read the above quoted statement and carefully think about it. Deserved repeating! |
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@tirod Your posts recently have been on point 100%. Loving it, Thanks!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The bigger picture is they tried to set him up with a charge of colluding with the Russians to throw the election - which was totally fabricated, with faked evidence planted in the news which was used to get a bought and paid for judge to approve a wiretap. That wiretap was supposedly meant to find actual conversations that could be twisted to substantiate the charges and provide more evidence. Trump moved out of Trump Towers and it all fell apart. From there, once in office, he investigated THEM and found evidence proving they were fabricating false charges, and in the process, committing high treason for their own personal interests. Since then it's become apparent why so many in politics were getting rich, how they were doing it, and who they were colluding with to make it happen. It's been a two year revelation of corruption, with El Chapo certainly icing the cake by saying in open court he bought and paid for Pelosi, Beto, and others in our government. Considering how they have been reacting to every opportunity to remove Trump from office, with some openly calling for his death, you have to wonder why things have moved so slowly. Welcome to the party, we've been watching this for quite some time. The latest chapter - to throw shade on Trump about anything Ukraine, because Ukraine has been a massive under the table payoff for most of the top Democrats, with payouts going to family, thru corporations and into their bank accounts. By making a lot of noise about it they are - once again - trying to confuse and misinform the voters. They do this with the complete collusion of the media, who is owned by 6 corporations now, and who has as a majority owner in all six a Saudi Prince who supports the Democrats agenda to oust Trump by any means possible. Don't be surprised when you see a consistent front of opposition from the major networks - it's ordered by the owner to do that regardless of the real facts. These are historic times and it's getting better every week. One revelation of corruption after another. Your posts recently have been on point 100%. Loving it, Thanks!! |
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This Lt Col is in serious legal jeopardy. He "shared" info about the call with his colleagues.
That's against the law. And one of his "colleagues" was likely the original "whistleblower." |
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A continuation of what was originally called The Resist Movement.
This is what we get for not voting for either Hillary or Little Jebbie like we were supposed to. |
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Read up on Lt Col Alexander Vindman and don't listen to the talking heads. It's the same tired story though. Doesn't matter if you've honorably served for decades in the military like Vindman, doesn't matter if you've received a Purple Heart in Iraq combat like Vindman, doesn't matter if you have an impeccable military record and personal life like Vindman....all it matters is ONE thing and ONE thing only: You say/do ANYTHING negative towards "Orange Man Good," you are instantly a communist deep state socialists. Everything positive and commendable you've done prior to this point in time is dismissed. If Chesty Puller's ghost appeared and said anything negative about Trump, he too would be instantly labeled a communist deep state traitor. It's a pretty easy rule to follow. There is literally not a single person on this planet that could go against Trump that wouldn't be instantly demonized by his worshippers. No one. Only thing that matters is how you treat the dear leader. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. View Quote I’m not one who puts a halo on someone and says great, you served, that means your opinion is gold and I should cower in a corner. This person had an agenda and I don’t think it’s honorable or him upholding his oath. Look into his family and that will explain a bit. |
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Reps. Steve Scalise, R-La., and Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, told reporters that Schiff shut down a Republican line of questioning toward Vindman.
"When we asked [Vindman] who he spoke to after important events in July -- Adam Schiff says, 'no, no, no, we're not going to let him answer that question,"' Jordan said. View Quote The latest witness, testifying yesterday, is Alexander Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council. He is also a lieutenant colonel who was wounded by an IED in the Iraq war and awarded a Purple Heart.
And he was on the famous July 25 call between Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky. In his opening statement, first leaked to the New York Times, Vindman says: “It is my sacred duty and honor to advance and defend OUR country, irrespective of party or politics.” Two weeks earlier, upon learning that to get a Trump meeting Ukraine would have to “deliver investigations into the 2016 election, the Bidens and Burisma,” Vindman says he told Trump ambassador Gordon Sondland that his statements “were inappropriate, that the request to investigate Biden and his son had nothing to do with national security, and that such investigations were not something the National Security Council was going to get involved with or push.” After the Zelensky call, Vindman says, he expressed his concerns to the NSC’s top lawyer because “I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine.” The lieutenant colonel, who was born in Ukraine and emigrated to the U.S. at the age of 3, quickly drew flak from the president, who tweeted that he is “today’s Never Trumper witness.” Former GOP congressman Sean Duffy, now a CNN contributor, said on that network: “I don’t know that he’s concerned about American policy, but his main mission was to make sure that the Ukraine got those weapons. He has an affinity I think for the Ukraine.” That is an accusation of dual loyalty against Vindman, who tried to get the military aid to Ukraine unfrozen. John Yoo, a former Bush Justice Department official, said on Fox last night: “Some people might call that espionage.” He was referring to a passage in the Times piece saying Ukrainian officials sought advice from Vindman on how to deal with Rudy Giuliani, who was leading the effort to dig up dirt on the Bidens. Vindman was reflecting what he thought was the official White House position. And that makes him a spy? (Yoo later said he had been misconstrued and that he meant the Ukrainians might be engaging in espionage.”) View Quote “I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine,” Vindman will say. “I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained.” View Quote This whole impeachment BS has a high potential to backfire on the Dems in a major way. |
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Read up on Lt Col Alexander Vindman and don't listen to the talking heads. It's the same tired story though. Doesn't matter if you've honorably served for decades in the military like Vindman, doesn't matter if you've received a Purple Heart in Iraq combat like Vindman, doesn't matter if you have an impeccable military record and personal life like Vindman....all it matters is ONE thing and ONE thing only: You say/do ANYTHING negative towards "Orange Man Good," you are instantly a communist deep state socialists. Everything positive and commendable you've done prior to this point in time is dismissed. If Chesty Puller's ghost appeared and said anything negative about Trump, he too would be instantly labeled a communist deep state traitor. It's a pretty easy rule to follow. There is literally not a single person on this planet that could go against Trump that wouldn't be instantly demonized by his worshippers. No one. Only thing that matters is how you treat the dear leader. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. View Quote You could literally put a transcript in front of their face and the would believe the accuser instead of their lying eyes. Facts don't mean anything, only orange man bad accusations |
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Read up on Lt Col Alexander Vindman and don't listen to the talking heads. It's the same tired story though. Doesn't matter if you've honorably served for decades in the military like Vindman, doesn't matter if you've received a Purple Heart in Iraq combat like Vindman, doesn't matter if you have an impeccable military record and personal life like Vindman....all it matters is ONE thing and ONE thing only: You say/do ANYTHING negative towards "Orange Man Good," you are instantly a communist deep state socialists. Everything positive and commendable you've done prior to this point in time is dismissed. If Chesty Puller's ghost appeared and said anything negative about Trump, he too would be instantly labeled a communist deep state traitor. It's a pretty easy rule to follow. There is literally not a single person on this planet that could go against Trump that wouldn't be instantly demonized by his worshippers. No one. Only thing that matters is how you treat the dear leader. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. View Quote |
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The LTC in his own words stated that he was concerned what the President wanted might result in a loss of bipartisan support for Ukraine.
Well no shit, LTC. If Ukraine helps uncover the Democrat effort to undermine Trump during the 2016 election, did he expect Democrat support? |
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Read up on Lt Col Alexander Vindman and don't listen to the talking heads. It's the same tired story though. Doesn't matter if you've honorably served for decades in the military like Vindman, doesn't matter if you've received a Purple Heart in Iraq combat like Vindman, doesn't matter if you have an impeccable military record and personal life like Vindman....all it matters is ONE thing and ONE thing only: You say/do ANYTHING negative towards "Orange Man Good," you are instantly a communist deep state socialists. Everything positive and commendable you've done prior to this point in time is dismissed. If Chesty Puller's ghost appeared and said anything negative about Trump, he too would be instantly labeled a communist deep state traitor. It's a pretty easy rule to follow. There is literally not a single person on this planet that could go against Trump that wouldn't be instantly demonized by his worshippers. No one. Only thing that matters is how you treat the dear leader. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. View Quote |
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View Quote 2. He forgot that he is not the one that sets policy, the President does. 3. Still no quid pro quo. |
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Hmmm.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/10/us-based-agent-bankrolled-ukraine-president-zelenskys-dc-lobbying/ Looks like there were some folks lined up trying to cash in on Ukraine and the new Ukrainian president including this Vindman guy and maybe even Rick Perry. I mean how’s a Lt Col supposed to make a buck on the side right? More: Schiff blocks questioning if NSC staffer to Protect him. Link to FARA. Filing inside. |
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Do you think just maybe, just maybe that he's working as a sense of duty FOR America and SERVING America...like he's been doing almost his ENTIRE life up to this point? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Read up on Lt Col Alexander Vindman and don't listen to the talking heads. It's the same tired story though. Doesn't matter if you've honorably served for decades in the military like Vindman, doesn't matter if you've received a Purple Heart in Iraq combat like Vindman, doesn't matter if you have an impeccable military record and personal life like Vindman....all it matters is ONE thing and ONE thing only: You say/do ANYTHING negative towards "Orange Man Good," you are instantly a communist deep state socialists. Everything positive and commendable you've done prior to this point in time is dismissed. If Chesty Puller's ghost appeared and said anything negative about Trump, he too would be instantly labeled a communist deep state traitor. It's a pretty easy rule to follow. There is literally not a single person on this planet that could go against Trump that wouldn't be instantly demonized by his worshippers. No one. Only thing that matters is how you treat the dear leader. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. |
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Read up on Lt Col Alexander Vindman and don't listen to the talking heads. It's the same tired story though. Doesn't matter if you've honorably served for decades in the military like Vindman, doesn't matter if you've received a Purple Heart in Iraq combat like Vindman, doesn't matter if you have an impeccable military record and personal life like Vindman....all it matters is ONE thing and ONE thing only: You say/do ANYTHING negative towards "Orange Man Good," you are instantly a communist deep state socialists. Everything positive and commendable you've done prior to this point in time is dismissed. If Chesty Puller's ghost appeared and said anything negative about Trump, he too would be instantly labeled a communist deep state traitor. It's a pretty easy rule to follow. There is literally not a single person on this planet that could go against Trump that wouldn't be instantly demonized by his worshippers. No one. Only thing that matters is how you treat the dear leader. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. View Quote How do you feel about this 'impeccable' Vindman leaking classified info ? Is he so impeccable now? |
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Read up on Lt Col Alexander Vindman and don't listen to the talking heads. It's the same tired story though. Doesn't matter if you've honorably served for decades in the military like Vindman, doesn't matter if you've received a Purple Heart in Iraq combat like Vindman, doesn't matter if you have an impeccable military record and personal life like Vindman....all it matters is ONE thing and ONE thing only: You say/do ANYTHING negative towards "Orange Man Good," you are instantly a communist deep state socialists. Everything positive and commendable you've done prior to this point in time is dismissed. If Chesty Puller's ghost appeared and said anything negative about Trump, he too would be instantly labeled a communist deep state traitor. It's a pretty easy rule to follow. There is literally not a single person on this planet that could go against Trump that wouldn't be instantly demonized by his worshippers. No one. Only thing that matters is how you treat the dear leader. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. View Quote Talk about ridiculous. Lol |
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Schiff holding Gestapo types of secret hearings is a nice touch also OP.
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Read up on Lt Col Alexander Vindman and don't listen to the talking heads. It's the same tired story though. Doesn't matter if you've honorably served for decades in the military like Vindman, doesn't matter if you've received a Purple Heart in Iraq combat like Vindman, doesn't matter if you have an impeccable military record and personal life like Vindman....all it matters is ONE thing and ONE thing only: You say/do ANYTHING negative towards "Orange Man Good," you are instantly a communist deep state socialists. Everything positive and commendable you've done prior to this point in time is dismissed. If Chesty Puller's ghost appeared and said anything negative about Trump, he too would be instantly labeled a communist deep state traitor. It's a pretty easy rule to follow. There is literally not a single person on this planet that could go against Trump that wouldn't be instantly demonized by his worshippers. No one. Only thing that matters is how you treat the dear leader. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. View Quote I repeat, the DOJ even concluded that for god's sake. Sorry. |
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As I said in another thread, I work with a lot of veterans, some recently separated or retired, and some (like me), been out for a while. We can definitely tell the difference in the two groups. Anyway, it has come to my attention that a majority of the current enlisted top-3, field-grade officers, and junior grade general officers all got their promotions during the FBHO era, many by dancing to the leftist tune of that administration, and many of that same lot still in uniform are still very loyal to the leftist agenda, and suffer from TDS. JMHO, YMMV. View Quote All the herpa derp nuttiness in here is the power of propaganda I guess (Fox) and maybe the natural tendency to want to believe. Like the guy said, the ghost of Chesty Puller could come down and dislike the color orange, and he'd be a commie. We should hope some wackadoodle doesn't take all the "coup" BS too seriously. |
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How did tubby deploy, get wounded, and NOT get a Bronze Star?
Convoy on the way into theater? Mortar hit the FOB? I’ve never seen a Field Grade Army officer with one but not the other. -unless they were blown up in the Khobar Towers. |
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Quoted: At the general officer level there may be an element of truth to this. Below that - "field grade officers" - this is an extremely kooky statement. That's just not how it works. All the herpa derp nuttiness in here is the power of propaganda I guess (Fox) and maybe the natural tendency to want to believe. Like the guy said, the ghost of Chesty Puller could come down and dislike the color orange, and he'd be a commie. We should hope some wackadoodle doesn't take all the "coup" BS too seriously. View Quote Back when they used national intelligence resources to spy on and try to setup his campaign to influence the election in favor of his opponent. There's been nothing legitimate about any of it. They've been attempting a coup the entire time. |
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How did tubby deploy, get wounded, and NOT get a Bronze Star? Convoy on the way into theater? Mortar hit the FOB? I’ve never seen a Field Grade Army officer with one but not the other. -unless they were blown up in the Khobar Towers. View Quote It was pretty standard to give all E6 and above a Bronze Star for a deployment, and E5 and below an ARCOM. Also, his rack is pretty small for an LTC, is this guy active duty? I had heard his twin is active duty as well, but he travels the globe for business. |
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