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Posted: 5/16/2024 9:45:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is an interesting change of venue vs the woods. And I think picking the average man should be the obvious answer for all but a few completely batshit insane women. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Let's switch this up a little bit and change the venue. Would you rather ride an elevator up 20 floors with a random man, or a random bear? Bear in mind (chuckle) that the random man in the elevator could be just as psychotic as the random man you pictured in the woods. So which do you choose for your elevator companion? If you choose the man, is it because you know there are other men nearby in the building who might come to your rescue? They are men too. Is it because the bear is much more powerful than the man, and you might stand a better chance of surviving a fight with the man? Because that same logic applies in the woods as well. I'm really interested in hearing the answer to this. This is an interesting change of venue vs the woods. And I think picking the average man should be the obvious answer for all but a few completely batshit insane women. What is the difference though? Do they think they can outrun a bear in the woods, but not a man? Bears can run about 3 or 4 times faster than a woman. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 11:13:33 AM EDT
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0 children died riding alligators in 2023. 29 children died from being left in hot cars by women in 2023. I choose for my child to ride on alligators!
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Posted: 5/16/2024 11:43:28 AM EDT
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How about mountain lion vs man ladies?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13422429/young-girl-mom-mountain-lion-chased-pets.html |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 3:21:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about mountain lion vs man ladies? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13422429/young-girl-mom-mountain-lion-chased-pets.html I’ll take the man. The lion’s is faster, and head on, on all fours, a smaller target. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 5:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I said I was ok with that? Can you quote me? Because I cannot think of any instance where I would have said anything remotely like I was fine with such a thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's utterly illogical. If men were more dangerous than bears you'd be dead by now. You encounter men daily. Men are 4x times more dangerous to other men, and we don't chose the bear. Using things like this horrifying crime as an exemplar of men is letting emotion over ride logic. Like fearing air travel. We can go round and round..again...the bottom line is this meme does a disservice to women. It doesn't make the point you want it to make. It makes the good men (and we do exist) question the sanity of all women. Which I think was probably the point. We need to bridge the widening gap between men and women not make it worse. You're talking to woman that is fine with a man being raped, because historically it's women that were raped. This was said after I related how I was, by the textbook definition, raped by woman. And I said I was ok with that? Can you quote me? Because I cannot think of any instance where I would have said anything remotely like I was fine with such a thing. It's an archived thread, that I don't remember the name of. 2ish months ago. Struck me as odd for you to say, which is why I remember it. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 9:08:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not coming to that rescue. "Help, there's a bear in the elevator!" Yeah, right. Oldest trick in the book. That's a mugging waiting to happen. 
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Posted: 5/16/2024 10:10:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's an archived thread, that I don't remember the name of. 2ish months ago. Struck me as odd for you to say, which is why I remember it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's utterly illogical. If men were more dangerous than bears you'd be dead by now. You encounter men daily. Men are 4x times more dangerous to other men, and we don't chose the bear. Using things like this horrifying crime as an exemplar of men is letting emotion over ride logic. Like fearing air travel. We can go round and round..again...the bottom line is this meme does a disservice to women. It doesn't make the point you want it to make. It makes the good men (and we do exist) question the sanity of all women. Which I think was probably the point. We need to bridge the widening gap between men and women not make it worse. You're talking to woman that is fine with a man being raped, because historically it's women that were raped. This was said after I related how I was, by the textbook definition, raped by woman. And I said I was ok with that? Can you quote me? Because I cannot think of any instance where I would have said anything remotely like I was fine with such a thing. It's an archived thread, that I don't remember the name of. 2ish months ago. Struck me as odd for you to say, which is why I remember it. Would be very odd for me to say, as it is 180° from any position or statement I have ever made on the topic. Regardless, you may take it to the bank that that is not how I feel on the matter, nor any position I would support. As a matter of fact, I get extremely pissed when I see male rape victims being ridiculed by the people they’re supposed to be able to report to, and I have long held that male students raped by teachers shouldn’t be expected to shut up and enjoy it, but rather should be treated like the victims they are. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 10:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the difference though? Do they think they can outrun a bear in the woods, but not a man? Bears can run about 3 or 4 times faster than a woman. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let's switch this up a little bit and change the venue. Would you rather ride an elevator up 20 floors with a random man, or a random bear? Bear in mind (chuckle) that the random man in the elevator could be just as psychotic as the random man you pictured in the woods. So which do you choose for your elevator companion? If you choose the man, is it because you know there are other men nearby in the building who might come to your rescue? They are men too. Is it because the bear is much more powerful than the man, and you might stand a better chance of surviving a fight with the man? Because that same logic applies in the woods as well. I'm really interested in hearing the answer to this. This is an interesting change of venue vs the woods. And I think picking the average man should be the obvious answer for all but a few completely batshit insane women. What is the difference though? Do they think they can outrun a bear in the woods, but not a man? Bears can run about 3 or 4 times faster than a woman. I’m sure the answers to that are going to vary widely. In summary, it usually goes something like “the worst thing a bear could do is kill me”. Implying that a bear would do so out of natural instincts such as hunger/prey or defending its offspring/territory. Where as the things a man could do with malicious intent are far more broad and “worse than death” as some have put it. Doing, whatever they choose to do out of a desire to inflict pain and suffering to satisfy some twisted desire. I haven’t seen much discussion on the whole “who could I take on in a fight or flight situation” angle. I’m reminded of being much younger in the 80s and asking my dad if he was bringing his revolver in case of bears when we would go backpacking in the wilds of Colorado. His response was “Its more for trouble that walks on 2 legs, not 4” ETA: but in reality, most of the commentary isn’t rooted in any real logic or understanding of the situation. It’s parroted as a man hating bullshit war cry |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:35:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m sure the answers to that are going to vary widely. In summary, it usually goes something like “the worst thing a bear could do is kill me”. Implying that a bear would do so out of natural instincts such as hunger/prey or defending its offspring/territory. Where as the things a man could do with malicious intent are far more broad and “worse than death” as some have put it. Doing, whatever they choose to do out of a desire to inflict pain and suffering to satisfy some twisted desire. I haven’t seen much discussion on the whole “who could I take on in a fight or flight situation” angle. I’m reminded of being much younger in the 80s and asking my dad if he was bringing his revolver in case of bears when we would go backpacking in the wilds of Colorado. His response was “Its more for trouble that walks on 2 legs, not 4” ETA: but in reality, most of the commentary isn’t rooted in any real logic or understanding of the situation. It’s parroted as a man hating bullshit war cry Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let's switch this up a little bit and change the venue. Would you rather ride an elevator up 20 floors with a random man, or a random bear? Bear in mind (chuckle) that the random man in the elevator could be just as psychotic as the random man you pictured in the woods. So which do you choose for your elevator companion? If you choose the man, is it because you know there are other men nearby in the building who might come to your rescue? They are men too. Is it because the bear is much more powerful than the man, and you might stand a better chance of surviving a fight with the man? Because that same logic applies in the woods as well. I'm really interested in hearing the answer to this. This is an interesting change of venue vs the woods. And I think picking the average man should be the obvious answer for all but a few completely batshit insane women. What is the difference though? Do they think they can outrun a bear in the woods, but not a man? Bears can run about 3 or 4 times faster than a woman. I’m sure the answers to that are going to vary widely. In summary, it usually goes something like “the worst thing a bear could do is kill me”. Implying that a bear would do so out of natural instincts such as hunger/prey or defending its offspring/territory. Where as the things a man could do with malicious intent are far more broad and “worse than death” as some have put it. Doing, whatever they choose to do out of a desire to inflict pain and suffering to satisfy some twisted desire. I haven’t seen much discussion on the whole “who could I take on in a fight or flight situation” angle. I’m reminded of being much younger in the 80s and asking my dad if he was bringing his revolver in case of bears when we would go backpacking in the wilds of Colorado. His response was “Its more for trouble that walks on 2 legs, not 4” ETA: but in reality, most of the commentary isn’t rooted in any real logic or understanding of the situation. It’s parroted as a man hating bullshit war cry Do you believe your father was parroting a "man hating bullshit war cry" with his "trouble that walks on 2 legs, not 4" comment? |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:47:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would be very odd for me to say, as it is 180° from any position or statement I have ever made on the topic. Regardless, you may take it to the bank that that is not how I feel on the matter, nor any position I would support. As a matter of fact, I get extremely pissed when I see male rape victims being ridiculed by the people they’re supposed to be able to report to, and I have long held that male students raped by teachers shouldn’t be expected to shut up and enjoy it, but rather should be treated like the victims they are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's utterly illogical. If men were more dangerous than bears you'd be dead by now. You encounter men daily. Men are 4x times more dangerous to other men, and we don't chose the bear. Using things like this horrifying crime as an exemplar of men is letting emotion over ride logic. Like fearing air travel. We can go round and round..again...the bottom line is this meme does a disservice to women. It doesn't make the point you want it to make. It makes the good men (and we do exist) question the sanity of all women. Which I think was probably the point. We need to bridge the widening gap between men and women not make it worse. You're talking to woman that is fine with a man being raped, because historically it's women that were raped. This was said after I related how I was, by the textbook definition, raped by woman. And I said I was ok with that? Can you quote me? Because I cannot think of any instance where I would have said anything remotely like I was fine with such a thing. It's an archived thread, that I don't remember the name of. 2ish months ago. Struck me as odd for you to say, which is why I remember it. Would be very odd for me to say, as it is 180° from any position or statement I have ever made on the topic. Regardless, you may take it to the bank that that is not how I feel on the matter, nor any position I would support. As a matter of fact, I get extremely pissed when I see male rape victims being ridiculed by the people they’re supposed to be able to report to, and I have long held that male students raped by teachers shouldn’t be expected to shut up and enjoy it, but rather should be treated like the victims they are. 
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Posted: 5/20/2024 12:13:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m sure the answers to that are going to vary widely. In summary, it usually goes something like “the worst thing a bear could do is kill me”. Implying that a bear would do so out of natural instincts such as hunger/prey or defending its offspring/territory. Where as the things a man could do with malicious intent are far more broad and “worse than death” as some have put it. Doing, whatever they choose to do out of a desire to inflict pain and suffering to satisfy some twisted desire. I haven’t seen much discussion on the whole “who could I take on in a fight or flight situation” angle. I’m reminded of being much younger in the 80s and asking my dad if he was bringing his revolver in case of bears when we would go backpacking in the wilds of Colorado. His response was “Its more for trouble that walks on 2 legs, not 4” ETA: but in reality, most of the commentary isn’t rooted in any real logic or understanding of the situation. It’s parroted as a man hating bullshit war cry Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let's switch this up a little bit and change the venue. Would you rather ride an elevator up 20 floors with a random man, or a random bear? Bear in mind (chuckle) that the random man in the elevator could be just as psychotic as the random man you pictured in the woods. So which do you choose for your elevator companion? If you choose the man, is it because you know there are other men nearby in the building who might come to your rescue? They are men too. Is it because the bear is much more powerful than the man, and you might stand a better chance of surviving a fight with the man? Because that same logic applies in the woods as well. I'm really interested in hearing the answer to this. This is an interesting change of venue vs the woods. And I think picking the average man should be the obvious answer for all but a few completely batshit insane women. What is the difference though? Do they think they can outrun a bear in the woods, but not a man? Bears can run about 3 or 4 times faster than a woman. I’m sure the answers to that are going to vary widely. In summary, it usually goes something like “the worst thing a bear could do is kill me”. Implying that a bear would do so out of natural instincts such as hunger/prey or defending its offspring/territory. Where as the things a man could do with malicious intent are far more broad and “worse than death” as some have put it. Doing, whatever they choose to do out of a desire to inflict pain and suffering to satisfy some twisted desire. I haven’t seen much discussion on the whole “who could I take on in a fight or flight situation” angle. I’m reminded of being much younger in the 80s and asking my dad if he was bringing his revolver in case of bears when we would go backpacking in the wilds of Colorado. His response was “Its more for trouble that walks on 2 legs, not 4” ETA: but in reality, most of the commentary isn’t rooted in any real logic or understanding of the situation. It’s parroted as a man hating bullshit war cry What kind of revolver was your old man packing? |
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