User Panel
View Quote |
|
|
Quoted:
They took his photo by Occident |
|
Quoted:
Probably think what’s the point. They’ve already got enough of a military to be a serious speedbump and deterrent. What else is there to do? They can’t afford enough of a military to directly engage and defeat China without reverting to a KMT dictatorship run by efficient militarists hellbent on wrecking Beijing, with all other financial concerns secondary. At this point, if China decides to force the issue, they hold off China long enough for the USN to arrive and China gets buttfucked. Or, the US decides not to intervene and Taiwan gets buttfucked. And there’s not much Taiwan can do about it except preemptively surrender. View Quote |
|
Quoted:
I would not be at all surprised to learn that Taiwan has some secret cans of sunshine, and a plan to make a PRC invasion quite pyrrhic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Probably think what’s the point. They’ve already got enough of a military to be a serious speedbump and deterrent. What else is there to do? They can’t afford enough of a military to directly engage and defeat China without reverting to a KMT dictatorship run by efficient militarists hellbent on wrecking Beijing, with all other financial concerns secondary. At this point, if China decides to force the issue, they hold off China long enough for the USN to arrive and China gets buttfucked. Or, the US decides not to intervene and Taiwan gets buttfucked. And there’s not much Taiwan can do about it except preemptively surrender. |
|
Quoted:
My gut feeling is that if Taiwan had nukes and used them against the mainland, it would merely piss them off and the result would be scorched Taiwan in return. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Probably think what’s the point. They’ve already got enough of a military to be a serious speedbump and deterrent. What else is there to do? They can’t afford enough of a military to directly engage and defeat China without reverting to a KMT dictatorship run by efficient militarists hellbent on wrecking Beijing, with all other financial concerns secondary. At this point, if China decides to force the issue, they hold off China long enough for the USN to arrive and China gets buttfucked. Or, the US decides not to intervene and Taiwan gets buttfucked. And there’s not much Taiwan can do about it except preemptively surrender. And as for “just pissing them off”... gotta disagree there. China’s economy is ridiculously centralized and concentrated. As few as a half dozen moderate-yield thermonuclear devices could take the PRC back to 1950 or so in the blink of an eye. Sure, a billion people would still survive, but they’d likely be eating each other in 3-6 months. |
|
Quoted:
Possibly, but since we’re just speculating here anyway: Think of a Taiwanese “Samson Option”. IOW, Taiwan is already scorched (conventionally) the government is about about to go down, and the “might as well take a few of them with me” mentality (historically fairly common among Asian fighters) prevails. And as for “just pissing them off”... gotta disagree there. China’s economy is ridiculously centralized and concentrated. As few as a half dozen moderate-yield thermonuclear devices could take the PRC back to 1950 or so in the blink of an eye. Sure, a billion people would still survive, but they’d likely be eating each other in 3-6 months. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Probably think what’s the point. They’ve already got enough of a military to be a serious speedbump and deterrent. What else is there to do? They can’t afford enough of a military to directly engage and defeat China without reverting to a KMT dictatorship run by efficient militarists hellbent on wrecking Beijing, with all other financial concerns secondary. At this point, if China decides to force the issue, they hold off China long enough for the USN to arrive and China gets buttfucked. Or, the US decides not to intervene and Taiwan gets buttfucked. And there’s not much Taiwan can do about it except preemptively surrender. And as for “just pissing them off”... gotta disagree there. China’s economy is ridiculously centralized and concentrated. As few as a half dozen moderate-yield thermonuclear devices could take the PRC back to 1950 or so in the blink of an eye. Sure, a billion people would still survive, but they’d likely be eating each other in 3-6 months. |
|
??????LIVE ???? ???? ?????? |
|
Quoted:
My gut feeling is that if Taiwan had nukes and used them against the mainland, it would merely piss them off and the result would be scorched Taiwan in return. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Probably think what's the point. They've already got enough of a military to be a serious speedbump and deterrent. What else is there to do? They can't afford enough of a military to directly engage and defeat China without reverting to a KMT dictatorship run by efficient militarists hellbent on wrecking Beijing, with all other financial concerns secondary. At this point, if China decides to force the issue, they hold off China long enough for the USN to arrive and China gets buttfucked. Or, the US decides not to intervene and Taiwan gets buttfucked. And there's not much Taiwan can do about it except preemptively surrender. |
|
Quoted:
China has always had those internal divisions, they've just used an overpowering central government to clamp down on it, even before the PRC. The problem is that those people are starting to see there's an outside world. The Uighars are just the most visible, since they're a more distinct different ethnicity. China's economy is reliant on trade, and they can't feed their own people. That's a large part of why they're starting to make concessions to Trump - the Army worm and African swine fever are doing serious damage to their food supply, likely a lot more than they're admitting. Someone already noted that they fudge their economic numbers, just like the Soviet Union did. At a certain point, you can't hide the discrepancies anymore, and there are some signs that China is rapidly approaching that point. Just like in the Soviet Union, everybody is lying about how productive they're being, because NOT meeting production targets can be fatal. They've got a similar cultural resistance to saying anything negative to a superior that the Japanese do, but the Japanese have found a way around that - they hire some token Westerners, usually Americans, who are willing to tell them when an idea sucks. The Chinese don't have that. View Quote China: Chinese boss, who is stealing money from the company, will not report legitimate losses, because it wouldn't take a genius to figure out he is stealing. "White Monkey Job Holder", who only has visibility on the business side, has reported the legitimate losses. His Boss' Boss was surprised that a white guy, who has a accounting degree, could do simple math. Chinese boss is planning "a long vacation" to Canada very soon. White guy is planning on leaving soon, with full documentation of his boss' embezzlement, so he doesn't get blamed for stealing. Japan: White guy was hired "specifically to call the baby ugly, if the baby is ugly". White guy, in an international meeting, does exactly that. His boss gets the window seat, and he gets a raise for "discovering the problem". |
|
Quoted:
Incrementalism works both ways. Riots and protests are the new normal in HK...how much longer can the CCP keep this from the bulk of China, which they have to this point. But, if the protestors go all in Tet-style, what do to they get and what are they risking? View Quote They do not know of most websites and web services outside of china. "Internal Internet Routing". Getting to foreign websites is difficult/impossible for most mainland chinese, and this includes websites in HK. "Great Firewall of china". Most websites outside of china are not written in chinese. "Can't read; won't visit; not worth the hassle to visit". Almost all 'written-in-chinese' websites that provide ANY foreign news are very difficult/impossible to access via mainland china. The entire culture is competent with a smart phone, however, the government heavily regulates what apps are available. Only government approved apps work. "Tet-style" means the ccp military, which ccp membership and party loyalty is required to be an officer, will be deployed immediately. The border crossings, airport, and ports will be closed. Left with literally no-where to run, Hong Kong becomes a prison camp at best and Sobibor at worst. |
|
Quoted:
It might get sporty if they had a way to hit the 3 gorges dam w/ one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Probably think what's the point. They've already got enough of a military to be a serious speedbump and deterrent. What else is there to do? They can't afford enough of a military to directly engage and defeat China without reverting to a KMT dictatorship run by efficient militarists hellbent on wrecking Beijing, with all other financial concerns secondary. At this point, if China decides to force the issue, they hold off China long enough for the USN to arrive and China gets buttfucked. Or, the US decides not to intervene and Taiwan gets buttfucked. And there's not much Taiwan can do about it except preemptively surrender. |
|
Quoted:
It's easy when you control the media and the flow of information. They do not know of most websites and web services outside of china. "Internal Internet Routing". Getting to foreign websites is difficult/impossible for most mainland chinese, and this includes websites in HK. "Great Firewall of china". Most websites outside of china are not written in chinese. "Can't read; won't visit; not worth the hassle to visit". Almost all 'written-in-chinese' websites that provide ANY foreign news are very difficult/impossible to access via mainland china. The entire culture is competent with a smart phone, however, the government heavily regulates what apps are available. Only government approved apps work. "Tet-style" means the ccp military, which ccp membership and party loyalty is required to be an officer, will be deployed immediately. The border crossings, airport, and ports will be closed. Left with literally no-where to run, Hong Kong becomes a prison camp at best and Sobibor at worst. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Incrementalism works both ways. Riots and protests are the new normal in HK...how much longer can the CCP keep this from the bulk of China, which they have to this point. But, if the protestors go all in Tet-style, what do to they get and what are they risking? They do not know of most websites and web services outside of china. "Internal Internet Routing". Getting to foreign websites is difficult/impossible for most mainland chinese, and this includes websites in HK. "Great Firewall of china". Most websites outside of china are not written in chinese. "Can't read; won't visit; not worth the hassle to visit". Almost all 'written-in-chinese' websites that provide ANY foreign news are very difficult/impossible to access via mainland china. The entire culture is competent with a smart phone, however, the government heavily regulates what apps are available. Only government approved apps work. "Tet-style" means the ccp military, which ccp membership and party loyalty is required to be an officer, will be deployed immediately. The border crossings, airport, and ports will be closed. Left with literally no-where to run, Hong Kong becomes a prison camp at best and Sobibor at worst. |
|
Quoted:
Not possible or even worth it. If HK magically disappeared from all communication, people would think China nuked it, how does that help them? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
When it does go down, the Chinese will cut ALL comm links, even satellite. The outside world won't have a clue as to what is going on. If HK magically disappeared from all communication, people would think China nuked it, how does that help them? |
|
I remember there was an American Police woman who openly posted on her Social Media, that she stood with the Hong Kong Police.
|
|
I bet if China literally did Nuke Hong Kong... the Neo-Liberal faggots would be out in force telling us how we need to resume "Free Trade" with China, because it will export "American Freedom!" to China. LOL.
"If we give China more money, they will be more FREE!!! LOOK HOW MUCH PROGRESS WE'VE HAD! " - Retards |
|
|
Quoted:
No country devotes as much of their defense spending to internal security as China does because it's a stable country. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Heard there's at least 10 or 11 provinces inside China right now that want to break away as well. We're only hearing about HK right now, everything else is being heavily suppressed in China. China has its hands full.. |
|
Quoted:
China has always had those internal divisions, they've just used an overpowering central government to clamp down on it, even before the PRC. The problem is that those people are starting to see there's an outside world. The Uighars are just the most visible, since they're a more distinct different ethnicity. China's economy is reliant on trade, and they can't feed their own people. That's a large part of why they're starting to make concessions to Trump - the Army worm and African swine fever are doing serious damage to their food supply, likely a lot more than they're admitting. Someone already noted that they fudge their economic numbers, just like the Soviet Union did. At a certain point, you can't hide the discrepancies anymore, and there are some signs that China is rapidly approaching that point. Just like in the Soviet Union, everybody is lying about how productive they're being, because NOT meeting production targets can be fatal. They've got a similar cultural resistance to saying anything negative to a superior that the Japanese do, but the Japanese have found a way around that - they hire some token Westerners, usually Americans, who are willing to tell them when an idea sucks. The Chinese don't have that. View Quote Or would it be more like the USSR? Where they lost some not-so-insignificant chunks of their territories, but still managed to maintain the majority of their territory which is now Russia albeit with a different political system. |
|
Quoted:
The Confucius Institutes need to be looked at. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted: Since we're revisiting history...maybe Trump will go all Berlin airlift... And, I'd make a bunch of Taiping Rebellion references. |
|
WTF!? What is a white guy doing, fighting alongside the HK Police?!?!
|
|
|
Quoted:
Now that's a thought! View Quote |
|
Quoted:
Lets say the PRC actually collapses. What would the Geographical area formerly known as "China"... look? Would China likely break up into a bunch of smaller Asian countries to the point that Asia looks unrecocnigzeable? Or would it be more like the USSR? Where they lost some not-so-insignificant chunks of their territories, but still managed to maintain the majority of their territory which is now Russia albeit with a different political system. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
China has always had those internal divisions, they've just used an overpowering central government to clamp down on it, even before the PRC. The problem is that those people are starting to see there's an outside world. The Uighars are just the most visible, since they're a more distinct different ethnicity. China's economy is reliant on trade, and they can't feed their own people. That's a large part of why they're starting to make concessions to Trump - the Army worm and African swine fever are doing serious damage to their food supply, likely a lot more than they're admitting. Someone already noted that they fudge their economic numbers, just like the Soviet Union did. At a certain point, you can't hide the discrepancies anymore, and there are some signs that China is rapidly approaching that point. Just like in the Soviet Union, everybody is lying about how productive they're being, because NOT meeting production targets can be fatal. They've got a similar cultural resistance to saying anything negative to a superior that the Japanese do, but the Japanese have found a way around that - they hire some token Westerners, usually Americans, who are willing to tell them when an idea sucks. The Chinese don't have that. Or would it be more like the USSR? Where they lost some not-so-insignificant chunks of their territories, but still managed to maintain the majority of their territory which is now Russia albeit with a different political system. |
|
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
When it does go down, the Chinese will cut ALL comm links, even satellite. https://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_640x430/public/pigeon-carrier_6.jpg |
|
Quoted:
That has to be one of the highest value targets in China. Look at how they moved people and how their economy is setup around the shipping it provides. Blow the dam and suddenly the water goes down and the ships can't move anymore. Not only does it go down it floods everything down river. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Now that's a thought! |
|
Quoted:
WTF!? What is a white guy doing, fighting alongside the HK Police?!?! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
WTF!? What is a white guy doing, fighting alongside the HK Police?!?! |
|
Quoted:
They took his photo by Occident |
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.