Let me guess, you fell out of the idiot tree and hit every branch on your way down.

It started going Full Retard (But was pushed back in 1976) then it stuck in 1979

Recent (like past 60 years) imports.

More or less this.  How it came to be this way?  I don't really know.  Like all things probably a complex mix of many of the theories in this thread.

The analysis of such things is far beyond the "Herp Derp" of GD so lets just say CA is all gay librals and move on to a poop thread.

The foundation was put down in the 1960s when all the hippies and other similiar types all congregated there, espc. in San Fran. Once those hippies grew up, started having kids and running things...it all turned to hell.

And yes, there are loads of conservatives there(I was one of them..left 8 years ago..never have looked back), BUT they are outnumbered by the leftist/entitlement types in the ctiies. The San Fran bay area and the LA basin control the state elections with a iron fist...they also both contribute to things like how expensive auto and health insurance is there.

CA would be an awesome state if it was even just middle of the road. I miss many things about the state (as I was born there) but the level of full retard there reminds me why I left.

Good point.  A big selling point of California is that it is a bastion of multi-culturalism.  There aren't many places where one can interact with such a diverse population.

If I ever decided to leave my beloved state of Illinois then I would seriously consider California.

It really started to fall apart in the '70s when public employees were given the "right" to unionize.

How much of that stuff holds up since late 2008?

More people leave California than move to California:
http://jan.ocregister.com/2010/09/05/more-people-leave-california-than-arrive/44597/

Expect this to continue with massive tax increases on the horizon, loss of services due to cuts that have to come and home prices still way too high for what you get.

From the hippies of the 60's to Fienstien, later on Boxer,Davis, It's about feelings.

Serious question?

Multiculturalism can be taken too far. I want to "experience" other cultures, not be oppressed by them or forced to make changes to my life for the sake of political correctness. If you want to see people of diffrent cultures coexist as true equals, modern Texas is a better example than California.

I have been told it was a paradise, but started going to shit 30+ years ago when tons and tons and tons of liberals took over and started ruining it.

It scares me that I understand this post

You do realize that randomhero & that other guy are more than likely the same person, right?

1950s. Men returned from WW2 to women who were much more independent, having worked harder, were now sending sons or having ot go back to fight in Korea. Beatnick mentality really started to take root, rejecting the old norm. Family fabric falls into disarray because of divorce from hurried WW2 marriages. Large influx to the cost away from extended family support due to military needs from WW2 and Korea.

The same Troll? As I understand it, posting under two accounts is trolling. I still say California isn't a particularly great an example of multiculturalism.

They sure do seem to have the same style, but without an IP check, who knows? And I happen to agree with you on the multiculturalism thing- the People's Republic of Commifornia seems to focus more on the Hispanic than the American

One of the reddest necked rednecks I've ever known was a guy from outside Temecula, his parents had an avocado ranch or some shit. Now I'm considered a Redneck but damn sometimes Moore would make even my country ass go......

I am surprised that parts of california have not seceded forming their own state.  California is almost too big to be a state.  I know for fact that northeast Cali has had grumblings in the past.

There has been votes before to break the state up...failed every time. The large cities don't want all the more rural counties breaking off..it would mean a loss of a tax base that feeds the entitlements.

Little thing called WW2 stoped the State of Jefferson

In all fairness, Cali basically functioned like a nation-wide douchebag magnet.  I think a huge proportion of the leftards are transplants, but I also think it's one of the most over-rated places to live on the entire planet.

if by under control you mean  that you let them have whatever they want which is bankrupting your state then no thanks.  

The only thing this shit hole has going for it is the weather and the beaches.

Oh wait, I've been to the beach a whopping 5 or so time in the last 6 years because when you go to the beach there is no where to park. Scratch the beaches.

Id rather deal with shoveling 6 feet of snow that to have to live around a metric shit ton of illegal mexicans. Been to santa ana lately? Might as well be tijuana.

Gas is $3.70 for premium, and will hit $4+ by summer. The housing market is a joke. I pay $1350 for a 900sq ft apartment, and to pay less would put me in a horrible area of town.

Job market is a joke for me right now. Every other day some new firearm legislation is trying to get passes, meanwhile the illegals run rampant but no one cares. Apparently its more of a threat for me to be able to order some handgun ammo off the internet than to have paco and his family of 15 living in a one bedroom house and funnel all their home depot parking lot wages back to mehico.

Fuck this place and fuck all the illegal mexicans here.

Late 60's early 70's...

Vietnam, hollywood going liberal, cali becoming the home of choice for the hippies, etc.

Mexico is not a race. It is a country.  You fail to understnad the reason people are against mexicans and other southern illegal imports has nothing to do with skin.  yes they are socialy conservative most of the time but they are POOR and they support liberals for the free shit. THey raise their children to vote democrat for the free shit.  



This isn't about color it's about the invasion of POVERTY that creates the socialist bullshit that is collapsing your state.  If they were all white down in mexico we would still be saying "fucking mexicans are coming here and fucking shit up"



one third of Arizona is brown people and none of the white people here want them expelled.  They want ILLEGALS expelled.  I would think that maybe you have observed in california that brown and white people are friends family and get along like they do in our state.  There is only racism from a very small percentage of the population and there is just as much anti white racism as there is anti brown racism.  Either way it is a very small portion of the population.



Maybe you are one of the white hating hispanics or maybe you are just ignorant of what is going on around you . I can't figure out why you can't see anything other than skin color.





THIS IS NOT ABOUT COLOR. STOP MAKING  IT ABOUT COLOR.

well break off from the coast and give us two more senators then.

The hippie culture of the 60s led to a lot "Free Spirits," i.e. people who were jobless and homeless by choice. Since it sucks ass being homeless in places that snow, they wound up in CA, and embedded themselves deeper than a wood tick. Then, they infected the school system and churned out more of their air-headed kind, and put them into government...

More of an example of Balkanization. People live in segregated communities... like Chicago.

A Proclamation from the Order of the Templar Ignarus Fossor to big shitty:



tace atque abi


 

I've lived in California for 23 years, so I would say I have personal experience living here.  I have also worked in heavily hispanic communities and come from a hispanic family.  I am also a devout Catholic.  There is no way you are going to portray me as racist against hispanics or anti-Catholic.  Hispanics from more heavily aboriginal countries (like Mexico) don't practice true Catholicism (and the churches are in part to blame for not trying to correct this).  They inserted their own aboriginal/pagan beliefs and superstitutions into Catholicism.  That is what most outside of the upper classes or the more European hispanics tend to believe.  Why do you think hspanics socially can be such a contradiction.  There is a reason for exceedingly high illegitimacy rates and how violent hispanics can be while they still claim devoutness.  It's the equivalent of talking the talk but not truly walking the walk.  

Culturally, the influence of Christianity is not what it is in Western populations.  Even to the extent they may be verbally socially conservative this does not translate at all into other aspects of their politics.  They are predominantly progressives and socialists and simply have some socially conservative views to go with such beliefs.  It is part of why leftism is so rampant in hispanic countries.  Moving to the U.S. doesn't really change that; it is odd to think a change in geography would.

This is part of why having to manny unassimilated or partially assimilated hispanics is a bad thing.  The culture.  It is not conducive to the Western conception of good or liberal governance.  It also turns nice communities into looking like someting from a 3rd world country. My obbservation has been that most hispanic immigrants do not assimilate.  The majority of their children and grandchildren do not assimilate much either, and sometimes not at all.  It is a real problem which is why I favour ending most immigration from hispanic countries temporarily, oppose amnesty for illegals, and expanding immigration quotas from Western countries or of major Western populations of non-Western or formerly Western countries (like, say, South Africa).  

The cultural shift is not a positive one and it needs to be dealt with, whether it is politically correct to say so or not.  It does impact California and its political or social problems regardless of how loudly some people scream racist or xenophobe.  The West is in decline after decades of haing been under attack from without and within and if the West including the U.S. wants to survive as such it needs to change its course.  Same goes for Europe; in their case they're dealing with a different alien culture.

Do not acknowledge the troll, dammit...it's in the contract.

I stated on page two this guy is not me, mods can IP check all they want. I am still in Burbank right now but I normally post from the SF Bay Area.

 

I am no political genius nor do I profess to be. These maps are part of the problem with the Electoral College though IMO. They should be weighted by states. If a candidate wins a certain party in California by 60% for example, that state puts all of its 55 Electoral votes towards him, even though a great many in the state feel differently. This by default makes the candidates focus on the larger population centers that do not always reflect the sentimant on other parts of the state. Illinois and New York are two that come to my mind.

I can OTOH understand how certain states carry more votes due to their population, i.e.South Dakota vs. California. All I am trying to say is the Electoral votes within the states should be weighted by their populations wishes overall, rather than an all or noneapproach they currently have. JMHO, don't rag me too hard.

win

Instead of trying to blame race you will find that the link is actually lack of education and Mexico is pretty much a oligarchy were the Spaniards still run things, appear on TV in media, etc... I understand that their own culture can be racist and xenophobic but its better not to stoop to that level.

Liberals are nuts.

Middle left Athiests are only a little off .

Water cut to the central valley.

I really like the cut of your jib my good man.





 

You didn't get anything under control. The border fence was completed here, AZ is still open.

Rahm Emanuel will poke you while you are naked in the shower, he did it to Eric Messa don't think he wont do it to you.





 

Thank you sir.  It's good to know that a few here can post with reason instead of blind emotions.

They are socialists. They tend to be social conservatives, but anti free market.

Let me shed another tear for AZ... oh wait fresh out.

Yup. And nancy pelosi is a bible thumpin gun totin preacher from Biloxi.

"They" you mean "Mexicans"?