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Posted: 10/29/2019 3:53:25 PM EDT
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Haven't people been waiting years for cheap 9x39 to become a thing? I'm pretty sure it's vaporware at this point.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 3:53:53 PM EDT
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I hope it happens, but I doubt it will.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 3:56:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Seems like the hype fizzled out.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 4:13:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Haven't people been waiting years for cheap 9x39 to become a thing? I'm pretty sure it's vaporware at this point. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 4:58:37 PM EDT
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I thought the Wolf/Tula ammo has only been here for about a year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Haven't people been waiting years for cheap 9x39 to become a thing? I'm pretty sure it's vaporware at this point. That said, only a handful of companies are starting to develop barrels and rifles so it may be a while. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:00:33 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm still waiting for cheap wolf 300blk
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:05:13 PM EDT
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Glad I didnt jump in on that bandwagon
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:05:33 PM EDT
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I'm still waiting to actually physically see any firearms in 9 x 39.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:06:22 PM EDT
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I'm still waiting to actually physically see any firearms in 9 x 39. Guy had several with ammo he was letting people burn up. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:09:01 PM EDT
[#10]
I just want to know when the cheap .510 whisper ammo is coming out!
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:17:29 PM EDT
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You can tell 9x39 is dead when the fact the one company building the first US made VSS Vintorez clone is offering it in multiple calibers EXCEPT for 9x39...which the original rifle was based on.
http://www.slaggamfg.com/products/viska-preorder Caliber: .300 BLK, 5.56x45, 7.62x39 |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:18:09 PM EDT
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I just want to know when the cheap .510 whisper ammo is coming out! |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:22:06 PM EDT
[#13]
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I'm still waiting for cheap wolf 300blk |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:29:40 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you basically limited to a custom bolt gun in that badass caliber? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:01:43 PM EDT
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I'm still waiting for cheap wolf 300blk |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:07:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm still waiting for cheap wolf 300blk 
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:12:00 PM EDT
[#17]
lol
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:21:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Why don't you ask that gunwriter fellow where its at? Oh wait...
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:23:06 PM EDT
[#19]
LOL
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:32:07 PM EDT
[#20]
I miss gunwriter
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:33:53 PM EDT
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Glad I didnt jump in on that bandwagon |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:39:44 PM EDT
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When someone sells a million rifles that use 9x39 so that the ammo companies can scale up production to lower the per cartridge cost.
Doubt this ever happens, wasn't 9x39 created by the Russians to be the equivalent of 300 Blackout - a subsonic rifle round for special forces to use in suppressed AK's? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:41:59 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryYou can't have someone knowing a lot about guns/gun industry posting on a gun website.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:52:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why don't you ask that gunwriter fellow where its at? Oh wait... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why don't you ask that gunwriter fellow where its at? Oh wait... Quoted:
When someone sells a million rifles that use 9x39 so that the ammo companies can scale up production to lower the per cartridge cost. Doubt this ever happens, wasn't 9x39 created by the Russians to be the equivalent of 300 Blackout - a subsonic rifle round for special forces to use in suppressed AK's? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:56:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What happened to gunwriter? Shot Show 2018, Wolf was stating that 9x39 price target was 30 cpr.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:02:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What happened to gunwriter? . |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:03:58 PM EDT
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I'm still waiting to actually physically see any firearms in 9 x 39.  Krebs Custom | 9x39 AK - The Bigger, Badder Subsonic Round |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:07:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: Caught the ban. It was terminal Quoted:
He’s locked. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:09:30 PM EDT
[#29]
I thought MAS Defense or KAK had some 9x39 uppers...
I’d rather see Wolf 300BO |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:12:12 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm still waiting for cheap wolf 300blk |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:12:34 PM EDT
[#31]
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You can tell 9x39 is dead when the fact the one company building the first US made VSS Vintorez clone is offering it in multiple calibers EXCEPT for 9x39...which the original rifle was based on. 
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:13:45 PM EDT
[#32]
I said in the thread about 9x39 it didn’t sound cheap.
Sounds even more expensive now. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:20:08 PM EDT
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It has. But all the combloc bois were hoping 9x39 would get imported and we all thought it'd be cheap like 7.62x39, and 5.45x39. That said, only a handful of companies are starting to develop barrels and rifles so it may be a while. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Haven't people been waiting years for cheap 9x39 to become a thing? I'm pretty sure it's vaporware at this point. That said, only a handful of companies are starting to develop barrels and rifles so it may be a while. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/So-fess-up-Who-s-on-the-list-for-a-TandE-9x39-upper-from-Wolf-shooting-vid-pg-5-/5-2074950/?page=1 https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/9x39-where-d-it-go-/5-2223816/ https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammo-sale/9x39-wolf-ammo DAY 646. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:21:58 PM EDT
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dont care.
MAKE MY 300BLK STEEL CASE WOLF. JUST. DO .ITTTTT. HOT DAMMIT KAREN. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:37:08 PM EDT
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I'm still waiting for cheap wolf 300blk 
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Posted: 10/29/2019 10:25:03 PM EDT
[#36]
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When someone sells a million rifles that use 9x39 so that the ammo companies can scale up production to lower the per cartridge cost. Doubt this ever happens, wasn't 9x39 created by the Russians to be the equivalent of 300 Blackout - a subsonic rifle round for special forces to use in suppressed AK's? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 10:47:02 PM EDT
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He’s locked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What happened to gunwriter? . 
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Posted: 10/30/2019 12:11:41 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's way better than 300aac |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 12:43:57 AM EDT
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This issue is close to my mind since I nearly have what I need to build my VZ58 in 9x39 -- the VintoreZ58. Just need to file a couple form 1s for the can and SBR, and order a crate of ammo. The mags arrive this weekend.
There's a chicken/egg economy of scale issue here, for people who want cheap ammo. CS Spec just introduced an AK mag that will feed the round properly (I'll soon find out if it feeds Grendel as well!) Besides that, the *only* functional option was 70$+ grey market VSS mags; fuck that. Specs are 50$, but at least the supply is increasing. You need a mag to justify building guns/uppers. Full stop. Won't happen, otherwise. So we've cleared hurdle #1. Hurdle #2 is much lower, and is barrels (also reamers & gages). I know Green Mountain tooled up for the round, which is its own special bore size (Makarov bore with a fast twist IIRC) you can buy blanks now. Hurdle #3 is finally getting to ammo; components. Starline now makes 9x39 brass, so high-end ammo can be made (I forget if anyone's making bullets just yet, but that's fairly easy by comparison) Once those things are dealt with, and the round takes off, cheaper ammo starts to become a possibility. But the initial Tula/Wolf imports are what spurred the rest of the industry into action, even if I means for now there isn't enough demand to scale prices down on FMJ ammo. It won't ever be as cheap as 7.62 or blackout --there's too much lead there for that-- but it will become affordable, likely over the next year as magazine availability improves (there's also an AR pattern mag in the works IIRC) If you want a round that will at least pass through a hog from most angles, 9x39 is the way to go. Especially once reloaders start playing with higher power supersonic loads. Ruskies never had reason to stretch the round's legs, but that's Americans' specialty. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 1:00:51 AM EDT
[#40]
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I'm still waiting for cheap wolf 300blk
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Posted: 10/30/2019 8:24:02 AM EDT
[#41]
i have a little build thread going too. Begin Shameless Plug
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Comrade-ARFCOMMERs-new-9x39-AR-build/121-743618/ 3d printer on the way to print follower to make AR pattern mags feed better there is not much support for AR pattern stuff, everyone i have connected with that worked on this at one point or another ran into some kind of hurdle and is stuck, Piedmont Cartridge, Slagga Manufacturing etc i did find out who has the ORIGINAL drawings for the reamers, and once its easier to ream the CORRECT chambers, we should see the AR barrel availability to pick up BTW, I have a little under 5k rounds, and I "shared" some with Craddock who is working on the actual barrels, his issue was finding ammo to test gas systems/barrels for reliable cycling before ramping up production |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 8:32:42 AM EDT
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I think as far as 9x39 goes, the calibers success or failure in the US is directly tied to AR9x39 availability and success.
With how custom the KREBS AK is, I don't see them making it much more affordable, and you should be able to put an AR upper together for well under $1k with custom parts, and once production ramps up closer to $5-600, with OTS parts, like the KAK one I don't see a lot of ARFCOM millionaires dropping $3k on a KREBS AK, and if they do, it will be for pictures on their husbands Instagram  , not to actually burn up some ammo and spend money to drive the demand forward.
This round has the capacity to become a HOG killing monster, and the cheap AR uppers will make it happen. Magazine availability and reliability is the biggest hurdle I think. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:09:24 AM EDT
[#43]
wish in one hand
crap in the other you know the rest |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:25:28 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryI want one, and I have no idea why as my liberal little state hates gun noise, but hates supressors more.
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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:27:54 AM EDT
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no, you can get the custom Noleen 338 LM AR pattern rifle and rebarrel it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Are you basically limited to a custom bolt gun in that badass caliber? |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:29:37 AM EDT
[#46]
9x39 is just about as dead as 6.5 Grendel is.
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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:37:38 AM EDT
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i have a little build thread going too. Begin Shameless Plug
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Comrade-ARFCOMMERs-new-9x39-AR-build/121-743618/ 3d printer on the way to print follower to make AR pattern mags feed better there is not much support for AR pattern stuff, everyone i have connected with that worked on this at one point or another ran into some kind of hurdle and is stuck, Piedmont Cartridge, Slagga Manufacturing etc i did find out who has the ORIGINAL drawings for the reamers, and once its easier to ream the CORRECT chambers, we should see the AR barrel availability to pick up BTW, I have a little under 5k rounds, and I "shared" some with Craddock who is working on the actual barrels, his issue was finding ammo to test gas systems/barrels for reliable cycling before ramping up production |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 10:29:55 AM EDT
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It's way better than 300aac Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When someone sells a million rifles that use 9x39 so that the ammo companies can scale up production to lower the per cartridge cost. Doubt this ever happens, wasn't 9x39 created by the Russians to be the equivalent of 300 Blackout - a subsonic rifle round for special forces to use in suppressed AK's? |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 10:43:53 AM EDT
[#49]
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You can tell 9x39 is dead when the fact the one company building the first US made VSS Vintorez clone is offering it in multiple calibers EXCEPT for 9x39...which the original rifle was based on.
http://www.slaggamfg.com/products/viska-preorder Quote HistoryQuoted:
You can tell 9x39 is dead when the fact the one company building the first US made VSS Vintorez clone is offering it in multiple calibers EXCEPT for 9x39...which the original rifle was based on.
http://www.slaggamfg.com/products/viska-preorder Caliber: .300 BLK, 5.56x45, 7.62x39 |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 10:46:27 AM EDT
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9x39 is just about as dead as 6.5 Grendel is. |
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