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Then why hasn't the housing market crashed? If everyone is now cramming into one house, we should have a massive surplus of homes. But we don't. People are buying more homes than ever at higher prices than ever.

If we just went from 4 people each owning a car to 4 people now sharing a car, the used car market wouldn't be anywhere near as high as it is. But again, that's not the case.

Your theory would make sense (and would be my first guess too) if the markets reflected it. But they don't, they're the exact opposite.

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Retired local carpenter near me probably makes more on his YouTube fishing adventures than he ever did as a carpenter.

The guy can flat out fish and he just wears a gopro chest rig. Doesn't even hide where he's fishing. If you know the lake you can figure out where he's at.

Doesn't have a fancy boat or anything special.

He probably never realized it would blow up like it did, but I'm happy for him.

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Amen brother.


I see it all the time at work now. The reality isn't that the workforce doesn't want to work, its that people are burned out and hate their lives, and their jobs.

The boomer hate I feel comes from a majority of Millennials working under a Boomer at the beginning of their career. When they were bright eyed and bushy tailed. And the middle manager Boomer or Gen Xer decided that instead of working to create good employees they would create extra capital for an atta boy from upper management and thought the only way to do that was "cracking the whip". And instead of treating them as people they were treated as a number, as a unit of production that can be removed at a whim, abused and underpaid. It created resentment and ruined a generation.

I see kids who are now 18-21 working 10+ hour days 6 days a week producing like it was peak wartime, being paid 13-15 bucks an hour for skilled work. Then being told "well when I started I made 7 bucks an hour" while refusing to acknowledge that 7 bucks an hour in 1973 was worth the equivalent of 43 an hour today. Then they tell you that its your fault you can't own a home, meet a woman and have kids and drive a new car. All while bragging about setting record profits and making record sales while posting cringe boomer memes from their Iphone in the office.

Then you factor in the inflation eating away those "high new wages for unskilled work" and most people in a year are bringing home less then they did 3-4 years ago all while being told that they are lucky to have such a grand time of opportunity. And the fucking ridiculous part is the wages for skilled labor is are somehow still stagnate. You get those Millennials who have been working for 10 years being paid within 2 bucks of the new guy, and then the bitterness comes, when in reality both are being fucked.

I watched a kid get fired 2 weeks ago because "he failed to meet production quotas". His parents had just moved across the country and he just got his first apartment with his fiancee. He had just finished a crash course in the trades and got a basic cert, and was basically taken, set up at a table and given a cumulative hour of instruction in 90 days and told to produce. After 90 days he hadn't made significant progress because no one was there to teach him. He was always on time, he worked his full shift and was a generally friendly guy who wasn't afraid to work hard. The guy who is a minority who is also terrible at his job, and who in 6 months as gotten to within one point (we use a point system) of being fired from being absent, chronically late, and who also spends more time in the shit house then the rest of the shop combined is still working there. The Gen X/Boomer who fired the white kid literally told me he had the wrong skin color.

Merit means nothing anymore. The "work harder and faster and better and you'll be at the top" bullshit means nothing. Day after day you come to realize the only thing hard work gets you, is more hard work. All while those who pop out kids or who jump the border live like kings.

And social media leads to more depression because all those fuckers who are also miserable, show only the highlights of the very best moments of their lives which convince you that your life is never going to be worth anything. Your absurd schedule of mandatory OT means that your chances of meeting a girl at the bar are all but dead, not that those are open anyways. So you spend your time not at work, drinking and playing video games to escape the misery that is your life. All while staring at the same wall you first stared at when you got your first chubby. And sooner then later you start wondering if suicide isn't an option. And for a depressing number of Millennials it is. And for the rest they seek help and are now saddled with prescriptions they hate, for a price they can't afford and have to keep working the same shit job that made them depressed in the first place to keep what shitty coverage they can afford. Then you factor in the student loan debt for a career you hate or were forced into by your parents, the car payment for a 10 year old beater that's falling apart and a rent for an apartment you share with 3 other fucking dudes.

All while being told to suck it up, and pull yourself up by your bootstaps. You just needed a firm handshake etc.

Is it any wonder people have given up? Is it any wonder why people don't want to work anymore and would rather live on a razors edge? I mean its not like they have ever been living high on the hog anyways.

Depression is whats killing the work force and Millennials in particular.

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Haha I have 2 girls also.  I am getting the top end of the median salary for my skill set so there isn't much wiggle room there.  I don't make arfcom millionaire money.  I will never own a Rolex or a Mercedes.  I probably won't get to retire.  But I will leave my kids 2 paid off houses, and I hope I can convince them to go into some kind of jobs that will pay well enough to be independent.  I really am reluctant to encourage college because we can't afford it and I don't want them saddled with the debt.

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We're doing our best to make sure we have ourselves another Lost Generation.

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Reagan boomers used to say liberals were dumb for thinking the economic pie was static, when capitalism showed it could grow. Neither side in that distant summer-world envisaged the pie shrinking.