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Posted: 10/19/2021 1:25:17 PM EDT
It is not just here in the US the majority of countries heavily regulate machine guns for decades , I never understood the reasoning behind it.
They are in fact, less effective than semi auto only counterparts in actually defending yourself against attackers then mag dumping in their direction. It just shoots faster than semi auto's that is the only difference no difference in lethality just more likely to overheat gun and waste ammo. |
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We only do semi-fully automatic with shoulder things that go up here pal!
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They’re not worried about someone defending their own life. They’re worried about someone defending everyone else’s rights.
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SUPPRESSING FIRE!
-cyril But, in on this thread. Mr atf op, you're wrong |
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This is your first post?
This is AR15 dot com. Let's talk about your ar15. |
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An automatic is a indicator of the ability to project power. Some believe that power must be centralized within government.
It’s almost like they want to ban guns too….. |
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Most countries heavily regulate all firearms, not just automatic ones.
Here they were banned after they got a reputation as gangster weapons during Prohibition, just like "Saturday Night Specials" were banned as being popular with criminals. |
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View Quote Op is blindingly bright |
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Welcome fellow Virginia based firearms enthusiast !
Suppressive fire is very scary and spray and pray is very dangerous for normal untrained citizens to have. |
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Full autos lead to freedom boners and the government wants us to all be impotent cucks!
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Because you can judge a society by which way the machine guns face and commies know theirs face inwards….
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Knee jerk reaction to a point.
Lack of readily available precision rifles and accurate return fire to combat the gangsters of the 20’s Everybody else followed suit. |
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In before OP says he's having a third hole drilling party and everyone is invited.
Also he might have a few good ideas on which governor to kidnap. |
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I did a half a mag dump on 8-10 hogs from around 40 yards at night and didn't make one hit.
Two nights ago I killed a hog at 250 yards in my underwear and boots with a 308. |
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Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University was a mentor of Bill Clinton and documented his thoughts on the private ownership of military arms and democracy in his book Tragedy and Hope:
In Western Civilization, however, the Agricultural Revolution after 1725 raised standards of living, while the Industrial Revolution after 1800 so lowered the cost of firearms that the ordinary citizen of western Europe and of North America could acquire the most effective weapon existing (the musket). As a result of this, and other factors, democracy came to these areas, along with mass armies of citizen-soldiers. ...In 1830 democracy was growing rapidly in Europe and in America. At that time the development of weapons had reached a point where governments could not get weapons which were much more effective than those which private individuals could get. Moreover, private individuals could obtain good weapons because they had a high enough standard of living to afford it (as a result of the Agricultural Revolution) and such weapons were cheap (as a result of the Industrial Revolution)...As a result, governments in Europe in 1830 hardly dared to oppress the people, and democracy was growing; but in the non-European world by 1930 (and even more by 1950) governments did dare to, and could, oppress their [unarmed] peoples, who could do little to prevent it. ...We have already mentioned that effective weapons which are difficult to use or expensive to obtain encourage the development of authoritarian regimes in any society. ...In a period of specialist weapons the minority who have such weapons can usually force the majority who lack them to obey; thus a period of specialist weapons tends to give rise to a period of minority rule and authoritarian government. But a period of amateur weapons[i.e. firearms] is a period in which all men are roughly equal in military power, the majority can compel a minority to yield, and majority rule or even democratic government tends to rise. . . . But after 1800, guns became cheaper to obtain and easier to use. By 1840, a revolver sold for $27 and a Springfield musket for not much more, and these were about as good weapons as anyone could get at that time. Thus, mass armies of citizens, equipped with these cheap and easily used weapons, began to replace armies of professional soldiers, beginning about 1800 in Europe and even earlier in America. At the same time, democratic government began to replace authoritarian governments (but chiefly in those areas where the cheap new weapons were available and local standards of living were high enough to allow people to obtain). View Quote Oppressors don't want the oppressed to have equal arms... as it's fatal to their "authority". The AWB was never about crime. Bill Clinton aways knew exactly what it was about. |
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It's like the glowies aren't even trying to hide their glare any longer.
My theory is these threads are to: (1) Remind us that we are being watched, and (2) Get the less brilliant of us to say something stupid to use against us Have a nice day occifer |
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Officer Steven? Is that you?
I told you that you needed to shit post for a few days first. Maybe sell something on the EE. Your post is way too obvious. Shit, this is a PM right? Can other people see this? Oh crap. How do I edit this? |
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Officer Byrd teaches about Strangers |
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So glowing is asking why the government fears machine guns so much?
I will ask this same question on several other gun forums and see if they start posting that I am glowing or if that it is only a thing here. |
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Quoted: It is not just here in the US the majority of countries heavily regulate machine guns for decades , I never understood the reasoning behind it. They are in fact, less effective than semi auto only counterparts in actually defending yourself against attackers then mag dumping in their direction. It just shoots faster than semi auto's that is the only difference no difference in lethality just more likely to overheat gun and waste ammo. View Quote 1. They are scary as fuck to go up against on a primal level. 2. From that they are fantastic for fire suppression. Look at ancient combat tactics vs modern. Pre-machinegun the winning strategy was to get as many dudes in a mass as you could. Post-machinegun that is called a dream target. |
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It's not about machine guns, suppressors and AOW's etc. It is about control. First start with regulation of certain firearms, then regulate who and how to buy, then start to eliminate categories of firearms. They now have regulation of NFA firearms and devices. They control who can and can't buy. They controlled the flow of machine guns. Now they are are trying to further sub-divide categories of firearms and devices, semi auto, binary triggers, braces, 80%'s ect. The faster you realize it not about controlling one or two types of objects, it's about control.
If it ever comes up I say we eliminate all controls including the ban on metal lawn darts. |
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Quoted: Most countries heavily regulate all firearms, not just automatic ones. Here they were banned after they got a reputation as gangster weapons during Prohibition, just like "Saturday Night Specials" were banned as being popular with criminals. View Quote You mean after they were *made* to have a reputation.... |
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They aren't afraid of them, they love them, they just don't want you having an equal weapon.
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