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Posted: 2/13/2018 1:20:35 AM EDT
Seems like up until 2006-2009 time frame that if you wanted at new hunting rifle in the sub-$400 range you were buying either a Winchester 94 or a Marlin 336.
Now since then we've seen the rise of then inexpensive bolt action Rifles like the Savage Axis, Ruger American, Remington 710/ 770---now discontinued thank God, and the Remington 783. My grandfather's local shop back in PA always seemed to have a used Marlin 336 or two in stock at all times. Now it's not the case anymore. Also a large PA deer hunting group I'm a member of on Facebook seems to have a lot of guys using the newer inexpensive bolt guns than lever guns or even the PA favorite the Remington 760/7600 Could it be said that the .30-30's popularity is starting to wain? |
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Love my Marlin 336...Also have a Ruger American .308, just depends on my mood which one I take to the woods with me.
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Seems like up until 2006-2009 time frame that if you wanted at new hunting rifle in the sub-$400 range you were buying either a Winchester 94 or a Marlin 336. Now since then we've seen the rise of then inexpensive bolt action Rifles like the Savage Axis, Ruger American, Remington 710/ 770---now discontinued thank God, and the Remington 783. My grandfather's local shop back in PA always seemed to have a used Marlin 336 or two in stock at all times. Now it's not the case anymore. Also a large PA deer hunting group I'm a member of on Facebook seems to have a lot of guys using the newer inexpensive bolt guns than lever guns or even the PA favorite the Remington 760/7600 Could it be said that the .30-30's popularity is starting to wain? View Quote |
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Really that's one of the most common in to the shop. Lots of Win and Marlins, hell even some Rossi's..
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I’d say it’s more a matter of Winchester being an expensive Japanese Gun now, and Remington ruining Marlin. Henry makes a lot of models, but all I ever see are the 22s.
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This must mean it's .30-30 picture time. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4620/25365881727_59ed2d1995_b.jpg View Quote |
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Old ones are appreciating in value, new ones generally aren’t very good, and those budget bolt guns you talk about offer better bang for buck for the people that are looking for tool for a job.
Most standard short action rifle cartridges outperform .30-30, and you get a rifle that’s easy to mount a scope to. |
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Here in my part of the country, they are still the most prevalent gun you see during deer season, I have not seen an AR in the field for the last couple of years, during elk season I see bolt guns, but during deer season it seems as if almost everybody has a lever action with them.
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Never was all that interested in them.
No real interesting history (family stories excluded), and there are better guns for hunting today. |
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I think in PA, a lot of it has to do with Point Restrictions on Bucks and the fact that most lever actions don't take scopes easily without being offset. I know that isn't the case with all of them, but a lot of them. View Quote Without a scope to absolutely identify each little point on each side, a rifle is damned near useless with the new rules. And while Marlins can accept scopes, a bunch of us middle-aged guys who bought them up aren't selling them. |
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I have an early 60's Win 94 30-30, but I prefer hunting with my 2 year old Ruger American Walmart clearance bolt .308.
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30-30 is more popular than 35rem thing is I never seen a deer go very far hit with 35rem within 100 yards
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There's still a bunch of lever 30-30s out there. I bought a 1965 Win '94 30-30 in 2016 for around $400. It would have been more but a prior owner somehow wore all the finish off the receiver without damaging the barrel, bolt, and other parts. |
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I don't know anyone who's purchased a NEW 30-30 in this century.
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In all my years as a guide I have only seen on 30-30 and the guy wanted to kill a turkey with it.
I love 30-30’s good brush guns, but most want.300 Win Mags.m My 30-30 was bought new in 1978 by my FIL, I killed a few hogs with it. |
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I traded for 80's model 94 30-30 last summer and actually bought a new lever 30-30 right before Christmas a couple of months ago.
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with the advent of cheapass bolt actions like the ruger american while the leverguns stay around the same price or go up while the quality of some(marlin) goes down...i can see it becoming less popular.
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In all my years as a guide I have only seen on 30-30 and the guy wanted to kill a turkey with it. I love 30-30’s good brush guns, but most want.300 Win Mags.m My 30-30 was bought new in 1978 by my FIL, I killed a few hogs with it. View Quote |
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Considering most of the deer killed across the country are probably killed within 150 yards, the 30/30 would be perfectly adequate for most hunters. The rifles and ammo are cheap, cup and core bullets at moderate velocities drop deer like a hammer.
I do laugh at all the assclowns who think they need a 7 Mag or 300 Win Mag for deer though. Especially in area where their shots will rarely exceed a hundred yards. |
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Honestly it's hard to say whether the 30-30 popularity is waning or it's just there are so many more choices out there. Especially with so many choosing to go the AR-15/10 route to hunt with and all the calibers being offering in that frame. More hunters, more choices.
The Hornady LeveRevolution ammo has stretched the 30-30 legs a little bit. |
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Plenty of pre-Remington Marlin 336's in pawnshops. Everyone should own one.
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I’d say it’s more a matter of Winchester being an expensive Japanese Gun now, and Remington ruining Marlin. Henry makes a lot of models, but all I ever see are the 22s. View Quote |
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Not sure about prior, but even as late as the late 80s, $159 would get you your choice brand new. Most kids I knew had one as a first centerfire rifle.
They do not seem near as popular or affordable now. |
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I'd say with all the variety the AR platform brings, the 30-30 is less popular, but I don't see it going away.
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...much like I would say the carrier pigeon is not as popular as it once was.
A.W.D. |
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Never was all that interested in them. No real interesting history (family stories excluded), and there are better guns for hunting today. View Quote |
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A few guys at my hunting club use .35 rem only one shoots 30-30.
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Old ones are appreciating in value, new ones generally aren’t very good, and those budget bolt guns you talk about offer better bang for buck for the people that are looking for tool for a job. Most standard short action rifle cartridges outperform .30-30, and you get a rifle that’s easy to mount a scope to. View Quote |
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They get a lot of hate for some reason.
They are one of the best deer rifles you can buy though if you are shooting under 200 yards. |
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Considering most of the deer killed across the country are probably killed within 150 yards, the 30/30 would be perfectly adequate for most hunters. The rifles and ammo are cheap, cup and core bullets at moderate velocities drop deer like a hammer. I do laugh at all the assclowns who think they need a 7 Mag or 300 Win Mag for deer though. Especially in area where their shots will rarely exceed a hundred yards. View Quote Most of the time he practically blows the shoulder near the exit wound right to pieces, it's entirely too much gun for hunting around here. I've got to shoot one a few times, we were hitting steel at 300 yards without a problem, cool guns, but definitely overkill. |
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Henry’s .308 is the future of lever guns in every way. The action is insanely smooth. Quality is awesome. And .308 cased ammo is all the rage.
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AH YA! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14562/IMG_1868_JPG-407759.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14562/IMG_1865_JPG-407603.jpg View Quote Nice. Did you tig it? |
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Henry’s .308 is the future of lever guns in every way. The action is insanely smooth. Quality is awesome. And .308 cased ammo is all the rage. View Quote They are an abomination. I see a lot of them for sale cheap because people are embarrassed to be seen in public with them.....like fucking a fat chick. |
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I found a nice looking older 336 the other day to replace one that was stolen. I may never shoot it but it felt funny not owning one for the first time in 50 years.
I hunt with bolt guns Gotta have a nice scope on a hunting rifle also. |
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Seems like up until 2006-2009 time frame that if you wanted at new hunting rifle in the sub-$400 range you were buying either a Winchester 94 or a Marlin 336. Now since then we've seen the rise of then inexpensive bolt action Rifles like the Savage Axis, Ruger American, Remington 710/ 770---now discontinued thank God, and the Remington 783. My grandfather's local shop back in PA always seemed to have a used Marlin 336 or two in stock at all times. Now it's not the case anymore. Also a large PA deer hunting group I'm a member of on Facebook seems to have a lot of guys using the newer inexpensive bolt guns than lever guns or even the PA favorite the Remington 760/7600 Could it be said that the .30-30's popularity is starting to wain? View Quote Attached File ...is waning. |
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with the advent of cheapass bolt actions like the ruger american while the leverguns stay around the same price or go up while the quality of some(marlin) goes down...i can see it becoming less popular. View Quote |
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I really have no interest in lever guns. Iowa sucks and we can (just recently) use only straight-walled rifle cartridges for deer. I usually use a .50 cal for deer anyway. Mine looks just like this, although this isn't my pic.: https://i.imgur.com/mrC5GFa.jpg View Quote |
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I had a Marlin 336 some years ago, really liked it.
I used it for dear hunting until I sold it for a Remington 700. |
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My cousin shoots a 300 Win Mag, he's never shot a deer over 100 yards. Most of the time he practically blows the shoulder near the exit wound right to pieces, it's entirely too much gun for hunting around here. I've got to shoot one a few times, we were hitting steel at 300 yards without a problem, cool guns, but definitely overkill. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Considering most of the deer killed across the country are probably killed within 150 yards, the 30/30 would be perfectly adequate for most hunters. The rifles and ammo are cheap, cup and core bullets at moderate velocities drop deer like a hammer. I do laugh at all the assclowns who think they need a 7 Mag or 300 Win Mag for deer though. Especially in area where their shots will rarely exceed a hundred yards. Most of the time he practically blows the shoulder near the exit wound right to pieces, it's entirely too much gun for hunting around here. I've got to shoot one a few times, we were hitting steel at 300 yards without a problem, cool guns, but definitely overkill. |
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