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What is it with millennials and their infraction with cars, guns and drinks that are garbage?
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Yeah... but I really would prefer a AK like gun. Though I may settle for the SKS, simply because I dont know when IWI will put out more x39 chambered Galils...
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Bought a couple at $89. Always seemed to find a reason to trade or sell 'em off. So not fun enough to keep at $89, I guess.
Bought a Yugo M59/66 years later, for $189. Kept that. Ironically it's the only SKS I owned that didn't run well, right out of the box. Had to keep cleaning cosmo out of the gas system until it was FINALLY clear of the stuff. That was after several cleanings that I considered thorough. Dunno where the stuff was coming from. I'll also add that I had to get a chamber brush for both Chinese I owned, in order to keep them running. Other wise I'd get stuck cases every other time I took it out. Dunno if that had to do with whatever ammo I was using at the time or not, but I suspect it was. I've not had that problem with the Yugo. A buddy of mine's kid bought one of these a few months back. It's rough, but reliable and fairly accurate. Shoots about as well as my Yugo. I'd buy one of these, but I really don't know what I'd do with another SKS. Might buy one anyways. |
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Quoted: Some Vietnam bring-back porn: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/DSCN0280__2__JPG-1521165.JPG "Sanitized" Chi-Com M21 SKS. It was found in a cache, you seldom see them in that good of shape. They were sent to client countries (in this case Vietnam) on the sly till they said to hell with it and openly supplied the Factory 26 SKSs. The M21 is one of the "Holy Grail" SKSs for collectors. 1936 Tula TT-33 Refurbed Soviet M44 sent to Vietnam and captured.....One of my personal favorites. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/tumblr_m36ts1_N5_HE1qg5z8jo1_500_png-1521167.JPG View Quote The M21 is worthy of holy grail status? Perhaps but it seems like a case of grail inflation lessening the special nature of what makes a grail a grail. Because the grail characterization is very much a subjective determination I won’t try to talk you out of your opinion. I just don’t regard it as such but that’s OK. |
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I have to assume that people saying the SKS isn’t worth more that $79 also think a 1969 Camaro is worth $2k, right?
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Takes a lot of time to clean off the cosmoline and refinish the stock. But I’m happy with mine!
All matching numbers. Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: Updated with link because AzAgLover is the only person on Arfcom who can’t find PSA Here’s why: 1. PSA is a site sponsor, and that’s the best kind of sponsor. Support PSA. 2. Bored with ARs and AKs? Want a different and interesting gun? 3. Fewer and fewer milsurp rifles hit the market every year and the US may have reached peak gun ownership (at least within the past few generations). Your kids may never get to experience cosmoline! 4. They’re Chinese rifles and there’s been a moratorium on importing Chinese arms for about 30 years. 5. As China and domestic Marxists continue to attract our attention over the coming years, a quintessential Chicom gun may have some appeal, kind of like K98 after WWII. 6. They’re old school fighting carbines! Hard wood, blued steel, and milled parts. They’re stout like an M1 Garand but in a small package. 7. Much nicer than an AK47. The trigger housing, dust cover, receiver, and gas tube are all milled steel, not sheet metal. Hammer forged, chrome lined barrel. Chromed bayonet. Unless you mess something up “gunsmithing,” the only part that should ever need replacing is the recoil spring. 8. Unlike other milsurp rifles you might find (like the currently available 6.5 Carcano), these use Ammo that’s still in production, inexpensive, and widely available. (7.62x39) 9. It’s an auto-loader that holds 10 rounds. Stripper clips are fuckin cool. Bolt actions are boring and AK mags and STANAG mags are so overplayed. 10. For under $400 shipped, this is probably the only bargain gun currently available. You won’t find a cooler gun for anywhere near this price. 11. You need more bayonets in your life. 12. Even though this is a “cool” and “fun” and “cheap” gun, you could legit war with this gun. 13. Good lord, that spiker bayonet does not fuck around. There is no way that thing isn’t going all the way through. 14. It is, in fact, pleasant to shoot. It could easily become one of your “range regulars.” 15. Of the 3 I purchased, they were all matching numbers (other than 1 dust cover that didn’t match). 16. Albania’s loss is your gain. 17. “But I remember when these were $89 when George HW Bush was President.... I’ll pass.” With inflation, these are cheaper now than they were then. Also, they were much more plentiful then. Also, these will only appreciate in value. 18. Perfect if you live in a shithole state that prohibits things like standard capacity magazines, drinking straws that work, and meritocracy. 19. There is no cheaper, more reliable rifle on the market today. View Quote I’m not gonna buy Chinese shit! |
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No C&R, no care. I’m sure as shit not paying a transfer fee for an SKS.
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Quoted: Item 10 is the only one that beats a field grade from CMP. ETA: buying from the CMP isn’t providing a market for chicoms. View Quote NOT a market for Chicoms, these were made decades ago. PW Arms (the importer) bought them from Ethiopia. So you are at worst supporting Ethiopia and PSA. |
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Quoted: The M21 is worthy of holy grail status? Perhaps but it seems like a case of grail inflation lessening the special nature of what makes a grail a grail. Because the grail characterization is very much a subjective determination I won’t try to talk you out of your opinion. I just don’t regard it as such but that’s OK. View Quote LOL....To be honest I did not know what it was when I bought it many years ago till I posted it up and SKS aficionados went ga-ga over it. Perhaps you are thinking of the later M21 with the "grooved for her pleasure" plastic hand-guard. Those were spikers and while desirable in and of themselves were not the same as the early M21s. |
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Quoted: I have to assume that people saying the SKS isn’t worth more that $79 also think a 1969 Camaro is worth $2k, right? View Quote Bought a 1967 RS Camaro for $50. In 1977. Spun main. Bought another '67 in around '82 for $250. So ain't paying more than $100 for a SKS, nor more than $1000 for a first gen Camaro! Boomer out! |
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Had one.
Completely refinished because it was terrible on the outside. Shot it on 2 or 3 range trips. Unimpressed. I wanted to like it but didnt. Traded for a swiss k31 and been much happier. |
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No, It's a gun I do not want from a mega store that couldn't give a crap less about it's customers.
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I bought one in 1993 for $89. Sold a week later for $100. Don't need another one
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Quoted: Takes a lot of time to clean off the cosmoline and refinish the stock. But I’m happy with mine! All matching numbers. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/495479/28F73C05-989C-42F6-8A7C-E54133B1E516_jpe-1521206.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/495479/3B289D90-FC48-46D2-9558-2F636419B529_jpe-1521208.JPG View Quote If you paid $400 for that you paid too much. Sorry I bought better looking ones that were pick and pay from a barrel for less and yes I know they aren't around anymore but that is a lot of money for a gun that looks like that. |
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I remember people saying the same thing about Russian SKS rifles, they sell for $600 to $800 easy these days.
However the Chinese gun is well used, the Russians that came in were often in new unfired condition. Eh... its not the deal they once were. |
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Quoted: I remember people saying the same thing about Russian SKS rifles, they sell for $600 to $800 easy these days. However the Chinese gun is well used, the Russians that came in were often in new unfired condition. Eh... its not the deal they once were. View Quote No sir those Russian SKS rifles were Arsenal Refurbs and they were really nice looking. But new they were not. I owned enough of them from CAI and SOG to know |
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Quoted: LOL....To be honest I did not know what it was when I bought it many years ago till I posted it up and SKS aficionados went ga-ga over it. Perhaps you are thinking of the later M21 with the "grooved for her pleasure" plastic hand-guard. Those were spikers and while desirable in and of themselves were not the same as the early M21s. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The M21 is worthy of holy grail status? Perhaps but it seems like a case of grail inflation lessening the special nature of what makes a grail a grail. Because the grail characterization is very much a subjective determination I won’t try to talk you out of your opinion. I just don’t regard it as such but that’s OK. LOL....To be honest I did not know what it was when I bought it many years ago till I posted it up and SKS aficionados went ga-ga over it. Perhaps you are thinking of the later M21 with the "grooved for her pleasure" plastic hand-guard. Those were spikers and while desirable in and of themselves were not the same as the early M21s. No, I'm aware of the different M21 variants. I have been collecting Vietnam bringbacks since the '70s and have been fortunate to buy some along the way. PS: Your bringbacks are very nice! I may not consider them grail pieces but I like what you have. |
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Quoted: They are still being produced and US prices are artificially inflated due to Russian and Chinese import bans. The SKS is a $250 rifle at best and it's a terrible choice in when you can build a decent AR15 for the same price on the same damn website. View Quote Tell me more about building an AR for the same damn price on their website. please. |
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SKSs are fun rifles to shoot. When I take my wife's family members out for a family shoot on BLM land, the favorite choice of rifles to shoot is the SKS.
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while i know times have changed, my first sks was 49.00 and they were not selling well at that price. today 400.00 is considered a good price for what is honestly a pretty marginal rifle with minimal collector value going forward.
but if they are your thing... rock on. |
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Quoted: If you paid $400 for that you paid too much. Sorry I bought better looking ones that were pick and pay from a barrel for less and yes I know they aren't around anymore but that is a lot of money for a gun that looks like that. View Quote $320 from Classic firearms After shipping and transfer it was right under $400 |
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Quoted: Updated with link because AzAgLover is the only person on Arfcom who can’t find PSA Here’s why: 1. PSA is a site sponsor, and that’s the best kind of sponsor. Support PSA. 2. Bored with ARs and AKs? Want a different and interesting gun? 3. Fewer and fewer milsurp rifles hit the market every year and the US may have reached peak gun ownership (at least within the past few generations). Your kids may never get to experience cosmoline! 4. They’re Chinese rifles and there’s been a moratorium on importing Chinese arms for about 30 years. 5. As China and domestic Marxists continue to attract our attention over the coming years, a quintessential Chicom gun may have some appeal, kind of like K98 after WWII. 6. They’re old school fighting carbines! Hard wood, blued steel, and milled parts. They’re stout like an M1 Garand but in a small package. 7. Much nicer than an AK47. The trigger housing, dust cover, receiver, and gas tube are all milled steel, not sheet metal. Hammer forged, chrome lined barrel. Chromed bayonet. Unless you mess something up “gunsmithing,” the only part that should ever need replacing is the recoil spring. 8. Unlike other milsurp rifles you might find (like the currently available 6.5 Carcano), these use Ammo that’s still in production, inexpensive, and widely available. (7.62x39) 9. It’s an auto-loader that holds 10 rounds. Stripper clips are fuckin cool. Bolt actions are boring and AK mags and STANAG mags are so overplayed. 10. For under $400 shipped, this is probably the only bargain gun currently available. You won’t find a cooler gun for anywhere near this price. 11. You need more bayonets in your life. 12. Even though this is a “cool” and “fun” and “cheap” gun, you could legit war with this gun. 13. Good lord, that spiker bayonet does not fuck around. There is no way that thing isn’t going all the way through. 14. It is, in fact, pleasant to shoot. It could easily become one of your “range regulars.” 15. Of the 3 I purchased, they were all matching numbers (other than 1 dust cover that didn’t match). 16. Albania’s loss is your gain. 17. “But I remember when these were $89 when George HW Bush was President.... I’ll pass.” With inflation, these are cheaper now than they were then. Also, they were much more plentiful then. Also, these will only appreciate in value. 18. Perfect if you live in a shithole state that prohibits things like standard capacity magazines, drinking straws that work, and meritocracy. 19. There is no cheaper, more reliable rifle on the market today. View Quote Actually, we should be purchasing at least 2 of them. Having spare parts in-hand for surplus rifles is essential. I now wish I had all the ones that I've let pass through my hands when they were plentiful. Especially the short carbines with the detachable box magazines that accepted AK mags. |
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Not wasting my money on Chinese shit. People on here bitch about people spending money on TVs and crap but then go waste a bunch of money on a blunt instrument that was probably used by communists to execute people.
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Quoted: Tell me more about building an AR for the same damn price on their website. please. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They are still being produced and US prices are artificially inflated due to Russian and Chinese import bans. The SKS is a $250 rifle at best and it's a terrible choice in when you can build a decent AR15 for the same price on the same damn website. Tell me more about building an AR for the same damn price on their website. please. SKS and AK threads in GD have a lot in common with truck threads... Lots of incorrect parroting. |
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Every major city's armslist will have a few flawless Chinese SKSs in the $400-450 price range. It's long obsolete but that doesn't mean it's not a solid rifle.
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Quoted: 17. “But I remember when these were $89 when George HW Bush was President.... I’ll pass.” With inflation, these are cheaper now than they were then. Also, they were much more plentiful then. Also, these will only appreciate in value. View Quote This made me curious enough to look. I used the first inflation calculator that Google popped up. $100 in 1990 $'s = $200 today. SKS's are cool, but I'm out at today's prices. I recognize that there may come a day when I say "SKS's used to be $400/piece with quarter a round ammo. I shoulda bought crates of um!" |
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Quoted: Ditto this. Nobody wanted them when they were $79. Im still not wanting one @ $349. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LOL , no I love the SKS but not at that price. Im not going to back in my day they were 79.99, but at Damn near $400 with shipping and transfer thats a hard pass. Ditto this. Nobody wanted them when they were $79. Im still not wanting one @ $349. They sold the shit out of them around here (KS) at $79 or $99. People were buying cases of ammo for $79 and going out and shooting half a case of ammo in an afternoon. They got a lot of people into shooting. |
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If it was new, or like new, then I would FO. Buy they look awful. I know my luck and I'd end up with a shot-out smoothbore.
If I could pick through a pile of them, maybe. But I too remember the $79 NEW SKS at the fun shows back in the early 90's... |
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Quoted: If it was new, or like new, then I would FO. Buy they look awful. I know my luck and I'd end up with a shot-out smoothbore. If I could pick through a pile of them, maybe. But I too remember the $79 NEW SKS at the fun shows back in the early 90's... View Quote Oh look, another oldster suffering from the under $100.00 "SKS Syndrome".....How quaint. |
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Back when they were $130 each, available by the crate on my C&R, I wish I had the money to buy them in bulk.
Triple your money in 17 years is pretty good ROI. |
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Quoted: Oh look, another oldster suffering from the under $100.00 "SKS Syndrome".....How quaint. View Quote I'm one of those oldsters and I got mine for $110 back in the mid-90's and even I came in here to tell these fucksticks that this ain't the 90's anymore and they ain't gonna get them any cheaper now or in the future so quitcher bitchin! |
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Quoted: Tell me more about building an AR for the same damn price on their website. please. View Quote Are you telling me PSA doesn't have daily deals where a nitride kit is around $400? If not PSA, you can build it if you shop around... even in Fauxvid 19. A $400 beat up Chinese SKS is retarded in 2020. |
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