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P-63 Kingcobra, not a bad CAS acft, air to air fighter not so much, but the VVS seemed to like them |
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What is the difference between the P-39 AeroCobra and the P-63 Super Cobra?
At the beginning of the war, 37mm was considered a tank cannon round (albeit light tank), so I consider that the P-39 is the predecessor of the A-10. Either that, or the P-38. |
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Is it me, or does the P-63 look a lot like the modern A-29 Super Tucano?
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Quoted: Quoted: I have a hard time between the P-51, P-38, and Spitfire. http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Duxford2002/Spitfires/Sampler/SpitfireEp120Banking30DegreesLeft10oClock.jpg Is that really a spitfire or one of those 3/4 scale flying replicas? One of four Mk V's left flying worldwide according to the site I pulled it from. |
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Favorite? F4U Corsair followed by the P41 Warhawk. I know other planes may have been better, but for me as a kid Wednesday nights were reserved for the Black Sheep squadron and all fighter models needed Warhawk or Flying Tiger paint schemes.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Keep on reading on. I guess the P40 is a Chinese aircraft and the P39 a Russian one? Who knew....... Nowhere did the OP qualify this thread by "American Manufactured only". American can certainly mean "issued", we used armament from other nations, so be nice and accept it. Your blood pressure will thank you. Gee for a guy who says "The Spitfire XIX is the shiznit, but for the American side..." You would think people have the general understanding that the Spitfire is a product of the United Kingdom and is predominately known world wide as a British warplane. Or was that not what you were insinuating? For whatever reason from time to time you seem to try and provoke an irrational response with semantics, I'll tell you what I've always told you, play your games if you must but fish elsewhere. Way to jump in from the sidelines and derail the thread. ETA: So are we now of the general thought process that if a nation uses arms from another, they are now considered their own? In that same line of thought, your Suzuki Vstrom I guess is an American bike yes? Since its sold, distributed, and ridden in the United States......Hell my BMW's are American bikes! And Harleys are now Japanese and Kuwaiti because I've seen them there! Keep fighting about it like it matters. Who honestly gives a big fuck? Seriously, is this really important? |
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Favorite? F4U Corsair followed by the P41 Warhawk. I know other planes may have been better, but for me as a kid Wednesday nights were reserved for the Black Sheep squadron and all fighter models needed Warhawk or Flying Tiger paint schemes. pretty sure you mean a P-40 |
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I don't think there's one that doesn't fascinate me, but the P-38 is my favorite.
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Another vote for the P-38 Yeah, me too. There is just something about those planes..... |
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Keep fighting about it like it matters. Who honestly gives a big fuck? Seriously, is this really important? Not at all, just thought I'd return the courtesy by acknowledging you with a reply. I did place a in the intial response, but thats selective reading for you. Anyways relax a bit, your blood pressure will thank you. |
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I'd say the greatest US fighter was the one that shot down the most enemy aircraft. No doubt this will differ from Euro and Pac theaters.
Mebbe not. Anyone got the stats? |
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the FW190 thread got me thinking about WWII fighters, what is your favorite American fighter of WWII? for me, its the Jug. Not exactly pretty, but loads of speed, power, durability, and firepower http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/P-47_does_night_gunnery.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Republic_P-47N-5_three_ship_formation_061020-F-1234P-037.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/P47M_Gerippe.jpg +1 |
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Quoted: Quoted: Favorite? F4U Corsair followed by the P41 Warhawk. I know other planes may have been better, but for me as a kid Wednesday nights were reserved for the Black Sheep squadron and all fighter models needed Warhawk or Flying Tiger paint schemes. pretty sure you mean a P-40 Pretty sure you're right. Dang. |
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P51D best looking I think of the fighters. P38 for fire power. P47 would bring you home. P40 was a ok at the beginning of the war. I could not pick a favorite. Now my hart is with the Spitfire. It looks more like a racer then a fighter and how well it would turn.
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Quoted: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/military/read.main/31094/Quoted: Quoted: P-51 was the Apex fighter of that era. Not really, there was just a lot of them. Many AC outgunned and out climbed them. Range->Firepower->Durability->Handling. That's what made the P51 so good. It was plentiful, but did everything well and most importantly was easy to fly. Pilots flew it well. There's a interesting write up based on a interview with a WW2 pilot who flew both P51's and P47's. |
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I'd say the greatest US fighter was the one that shot down the most enemy aircraft. No doubt this will differ from Euro and Pac theaters. Mebbe not. Anyone got the stats? To some degree. There are huge numbers, and numbers flown throughout entire the war, and numbers of ones who possibly came in late and kicked the piss out of everything in sight. |
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Quoted: That is one pretty bird. I got to see it fly here in Wa. Amazing machine. Left Mustangs in the dust! |
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I think the Bearcat and tiger cat came too late for WW2. Am i correct? |
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I always had it in for the Corsair.... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/F4U-1_Corsair_in_flight_c1942.jpg Pure sex Yup Agree 100% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F4U_Corsair#Royal_New_Zealand_Air_Force "Equipped with obsolescent Curtiss P-40s, Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) squadrons in the South Pacific performed impressively compared to the American units they operated alongside, in particular in the air-to-air role. The American government accordingly decided to give New Zealand early access to the Corsair, especially as it was not initially being used from carriers." |
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Quoted: the FW190 thread got me thinking about WWII fighters, what is your favorite American fighter of WWII? for me, its the Jug. Not exactly pretty, but loads of speed, power, durability, and firepower http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/P-47_does_night_gunnery.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Republic_P-47N-5_three_ship_formation_061020-F-1234P-037.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/P47M_Gerippe.jpg My Grandfather flew those in the Pacific towards the end of the war. His job was to fly day time missions ahead of the nighttime bombing raids and destroy anti-aircraft positions. The Japanese used to put their guns on top of schools and hospitals, so my Grandfather would have to bomb schools in the middle of the day and hospitals and all kinds of other civilian installations. He felt guilty about that all his life and was a heavy drinker because of the things he did in the war. |
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I think the Bearcat and tiger cat came too late for WW2. Am i correct? Bearcat yes, Tigercat no. A buddy of my Dad's was a radio operator on Marine F7Fs late in the war. On a few missions they escorted B-29s |
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http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/zug556/p61-1.jpg http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/zug556/P-61_from_above.jpg http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/zug556/Northrop_P-61_green_airborne.jpg thats the one!!!!!!1!! P-61 close tie for 2nd for the P-38, P-51 and P-47 |
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i'll pass on my father's thoughts ( he was a gunner on an A-20 Havoc from June 1944-VE Day ).
He loved being escorted by P-47s; their radial engine and cockpit armor allowed them to dive on AA batteries and destroy them. the P-51s would climb out of the flak and leave the bombers to soak it up, as their watercooled engines wouldn't take the abuse. I believe the term "pussies" was mentioned frequently whenever the subject of the P-51 being so wonderful came up. I sure miss our talks, Dad. |
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Just wondering. How the hell did those ww2 era planes taxi when they had this giant engine pointed straight up into the air in front of them?
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Quoted: Just wondering. How the hell did those ww2 era planes taxi when they had this giant engine pointed straight up into the air in front of them? S-turns |
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Favorite? F4U Corsair followed by the P41 Warhawk. I know other planes may have been better, but for me as a kid Wednesday nights were reserved for the Black Sheep squadron and all fighter models needed Warhawk or Flying Tiger paint schemes. pretty sure you mean a P-40 Pretty sure you're right. Dang. P-40 Warhawk was the first airplne model i ever built, probably around 1970. you gotta love shark teeth... |
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Just wondering. How the hell did those ww2 era planes taxi when they had this giant engine pointed straight up into the air in front of them? usually they had the crew chief sit on the wing and guide them out when they taxied to the runway. The Crew chief and AC communicated by hand signal pretty good book on the Jug: Hell Hawks by Robert F. Dorr & Thomas D. Jones |
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the FW190 thread got me thinking about WWII fighters, what is your favorite American fighter of WWII? for me, its the Jug. Not exactly pretty, but loads of speed, power, durability, and firepower http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/P-47_does_night_gunnery.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Republic_P-47N-5_three_ship_formation_061020-F-1234P-037.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/P47M_Gerippe.jpg My Grandfather flew those in the Pacific towards the end of the war. His job was to fly day time missions ahead of the nighttime bombing raids and destroy anti-aircraft positions. The Japanese used to put their guns on top of schools and hospitals, so my Grandfather would have to bomb schools in the middle of the day and hospitals and all kinds of other civilian installations. He felt guilty about that all his life and was a heavy drinker because of the things he did in the war. my Dad hit some civilian targets due to bad visibility / crappy intel. He felt like Hell at the debriefs when Intel would inform them they'd missed the ballbearing factory and wiped out a neighborhood. He got over it, though, after some friends were lost. |
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P-51 was the Apex fighter of that era. No it wasn't. That title goes to the F8F. It outclassed every prop fighter out there in the dogfighting arena. |
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P-51 was the Apex fighter of that era. Not really, there was just a lot of them. Many AC outgunned and out climbed them. Range->Firepower->Durability->Handling. That's what made the P51 so good. It was plentiful, but did everything well and most importantly was easy to fly. Pilots flew it well. Range and speed. Those were the P51's best attributes. Firepower in the 6/.50's were average compared to contemporary fighters. It was not all that agile either, was in the lower 1/3 for turning radius, an average climber, and its roll rate was average at best. btw... I really like the P40 and its story. |
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the FW190 thread got me thinking about WWII fighters, what is your favorite American fighter of WWII? for me, its the Jug. Not exactly pretty, but loads of speed, power, durability, and firepower http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/P-47_does_night_gunnery.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Republic_P-47N-5_three_ship_formation_061020-F-1234P-037.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/P47M_Gerippe.jpg THIS! |
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P-51 was the Apex fighter of that era. I'd have to say the P51 also. The Corsair would be a close second. Or maybe 1A and 1B. |
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I'd say the greatest US fighter was the one that shot down the most enemy aircraft. No doubt this will differ from Euro and Pac theaters. Mebbe not. Anyone got the stats? Everything I've found says the P51 racked up more kills than any other Allied Aircraft and was the aircraft that had the highest number of Aces. |
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