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Posted: 12/13/2022 11:58:10 AM EST
[#1]
It’s good that they are offering them but I can’t see the value in it except for collecting.
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Posted: 12/13/2022 12:06:48 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s good that they are offering them but I can’t see the value in it except for collecting. Yup Needs to be in 300 BLK |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 12:18:48 PM EST
[#3]
I’m a SCAR fan, but this is a hard pass.
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Posted: 12/13/2022 12:49:50 PM EST
[#4]
Finally!
For those complaining about lack of 300blk they already have it. FN is just following the same playbook as they did with the 20S, we’ll see a 300blk version and horribly overpriced barrels in a few months. 
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Posted: 12/13/2022 2:06:43 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a SBR'd 16, but that price is stupid. I'll just stick with these https://i.imgur.com/qpBIaq5.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/5yY7836.png That Sig 55X is nice!!!!!! |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 2:45:57 PM EST
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Posted: 12/13/2022 2:46:38 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who would be retarded enough…https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504440/56615322-E498-4DFD-B1F0-69212D0D3874_jpe-2633736.JPG @beitodesstrafe DoIt.gif |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 2:54:50 PM EST
[#8]
The ultimate mallcrawler/brodozer accessory
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Posted: 12/13/2022 3:02:16 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @beitodesstrafe DoIt.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who would be retarded enough…https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504440/56615322-E498-4DFD-B1F0-69212D0D3874_jpe-2633736.JPG @beitodesstrafe DoIt.gif 
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Posted: 12/13/2022 3:03:49 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. SBR 7.62 is good stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m holding out for the SCAR 17P Agreed. SBR 7.62 is good stuff. The 16 is cool but the 17 is the only SCAR worth messing with |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 3:05:52 PM EST
[#11]
If it were 2007 I’d be shitting my pants.
But it’s not |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 3:12:55 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 16 is cool but the 17 is the only SCAR worth messing with Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m holding out for the SCAR 17P Agreed. SBR 7.62 is good stuff. The 16 is cool but the 17 is the only SCAR worth messing with Wrong! The 20 is 3 better than the 17 
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Posted: 12/13/2022 3:19:03 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s the APC300. Mine is scary quiet, and with a Tommy Brace is very compact. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/114771/8A2A1E58-5615-419C-924A-10B0C148A04E_jpe-2633744.JPG My APC300. I run an AAC 7.62SD on it. Very fucking quiet with 220gr subs 
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Posted: 12/13/2022 3:19:31 PM EST
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Posted: 12/13/2022 3:43:00 PM EST
[#15]
Thanks but I did much better for half the price.
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Posted: 12/13/2022 4:20:50 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks but I did much better for half the price. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/389138/IMG-20220912-WA0000-2634092.jpg The foot with freakishly long middle toe is the least offensive thing in that picture. The rifle, extension cord mess and faux oak 80’s bookshelf are all triggering me. Thank god for the Official safe space thread. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 4:55:07 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The foot with freakishly long middle toe is the least offensive thing in that picture. The rifle, extension cord mess and faux oak 80’s bookshelf are all triggering me. Thank god for the Official safe space thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thanks but I did much better for half the price. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/389138/IMG-20220912-WA0000-2634092.jpg The foot with freakishly long middle toe is the least offensive thing in that picture. The rifle, extension cord mess and faux oak 80’s bookshelf are all triggering me. Thank god for the Official safe space thread. Well since that dresser is actually from the 80's, ya get what ya get. Milkman loves my big toe 
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Posted: 12/13/2022 4:56:06 PM EST
[#18]
I think a 10.5 scar 16 would be cool.
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:03:57 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well since that dresser is actually from the 80's, ya get what ya get. Milkman loves my big toe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thanks but I did much better for half the price. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/389138/IMG-20220912-WA0000-2634092.jpg The foot with freakishly long middle toe is the least offensive thing in that picture. The rifle, extension cord mess and faux oak 80’s bookshelf are all triggering me. Thank god for the Official safe space thread. Well since that dresser is actually from the 80's, ya get what ya get. Milkman loves my big toe Lol |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:08:01 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks but I did much better for half the price. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/389138/IMG-20220912-WA0000-2634092.jpg Gross. Glad you’re happy but ew compared to a scar. Even the people that try to suggest the Bren 2 is “jUsT aS gUd”, no, and I have a couple of those too. That said I’ll take my not quite as good 8 inch Bren 2 over an almost 4k for a pdw scar 16, and I’m a huge scar fan. Fn is screwing themselves with the pricing model. 7.5-8 inch 5.56 are still very useful to 125-150m with the right ammo. Probably more but not tons. It’s much better suited to non-DI guns though,I think. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:08:31 PM EST
[#21]
A $3600, 7.5" barreled, 5.56 "pistol".
lol |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:26:36 PM EST
[#22]
So why is it a 15 and not a 16? Same with the 20 not being a 17 for that matter. Companies need to quit fucking up their own naming systems.
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:34:49 PM EST
[#23]
Quoted: 7.5" 556 no thank you |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:37:55 PM EST
[#24]
Jesus, it costs as much as a SCAR-H.
What the fuck are you doing FN?
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:39:11 PM EST
[#25]
Zero interest
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:44:59 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So why is it a 15 and not a 16? Same with the 20 not being a 17 for that matter. Companies need to quit fucking up their own naming systems. 15, 16, 17, and 20 all have different (upper) receivers. SCAR 20 barrels, for example, do not fit the 17, 16, or 15. Similarly, the SCAR 15 barrels do not fit the 16, 17, or 20. Once the dust settles, street price on these will be $2600. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:47:33 PM EST
[#27]
Yeah, I'm a SCAR guy and this would just be a collectable/toy for me. The price is a killer, new SCAR 16's I think are less.
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:49:01 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 15, 16, 17, and 20 all have different (upper) receivers. SCAR 20 barrels, for example, do not fit the 17, 16, or 15. Similarly, the SCAR 15 barrels do not fit the 16, 17, or 20. Once the dust settles, street price on these will be $2600. I’ll FO hard at $2600, I think $2999 is more like it. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 5:50:52 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'm a SCAR guy and this would just be a collectable/toy for me. The price is a killer, new SCAR 16's I think are less. MSRP is $90 less on the FN website. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 6:07:43 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty surprising that the MSRP is higher than the 16S NRCH, which comes with double the barrel material and a stock...nothing worse than paying more for less. Would have been intriguing in the low 3s, but at this price I'd just pony up the extra couple hundred for a 553SB and be slightly less deaf. I thought it was just a different check mark on the serial number forms kept by SOT for Title 1 and Title 2? |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 11:11:50 PM EST
[#31]
I'm a huge SCAR fan (17S and 20S), but this is just retarded. The SCAR receiver is relatively tall, so even with the super short barrel, this is not an ideal platform for a PDW to begin with. It would make a LOT more sense in 300blk, however. I'm guessing it will be coming soon in .300blk, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Posted: 12/13/2022 11:19:58 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Warranty is void on full size SCAR rifles when suppressed. FN also increased the price of spare parts for SCAR rifles by as much as 500%. Want to retrofit your reciprocating CH SCAR to a NRCH? The parts to do it are $1500. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And if one suppresses it, the warranty is void. If this really is true, then that’s absolute BS and FN is stupid. Who, in todays world, wants a 7 inch 5.56, and isn’t going to put a can on it. And for that price- you know they are after swat teams and other .gov contracts. You think those people aren’t going to run cans? Wow. Warranty is void on full size SCAR rifles when suppressed. FN also increased the price of spare parts for SCAR rifles by as much as 500%. Want to retrofit your reciprocating CH SCAR to a NRCH? The parts to do it are $1500. If all of both of these posts is accurate...WTF. I like FN (mostly for their barrels) but the SCAR is old news now. 5.56 in anything shorts than 10" is stupid and better served by a different caliber. As for the price conversion...LOL. Again, if true, why? You can build an AR that does everything better (including a NRCH) than the SCAR plus add a light, optic, IR, mags and ammo and still be money ahead. I actually have zero idea if any of the statements made so far are accurate and it doesn't matter one iota to me aside from entertainment. Did FN jump the shark and decide to be the next trendy overpriced gun maker ala Q or what is actually going on here? |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 11:29:20 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If all of both of these posts is accurate...WTF. I like FN (mostly for their barrels) but the SCAR is old news now. 5.56 in anything shorts than 10" is stupid and better served by a different caliber. As for the price conversion...LOL. Again, if true, why? You can build an AR that does everything better (including a NRCH) than the SCAR plus add a light, optic, IR, mags and ammo and still be money ahead. I actually have zero idea if any of the statements made so far are accurate and it doesn't matter one iota to me aside from entertainment. Did FN jump the shark and decide to be the next trendy overpriced gun maker ala Q or what is actually going on here? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And if one suppresses it, the warranty is void. If this really is true, then that’s absolute BS and FN is stupid. Who, in todays world, wants a 7 inch 5.56, and isn’t going to put a can on it. And for that price- you know they are after swat teams and other .gov contracts. You think those people aren’t going to run cans? Wow. Warranty is void on full size SCAR rifles when suppressed. FN also increased the price of spare parts for SCAR rifles by as much as 500%. Want to retrofit your reciprocating CH SCAR to a NRCH? The parts to do it are $1500. If all of both of these posts is accurate...WTF. I like FN (mostly for their barrels) but the SCAR is old news now. 5.56 in anything shorts than 10" is stupid and better served by a different caliber. As for the price conversion...LOL. Again, if true, why? You can build an AR that does everything better (including a NRCH) than the SCAR plus add a light, optic, IR, mags and ammo and still be money ahead. I actually have zero idea if any of the statements made so far are accurate and it doesn't matter one iota to me aside from entertainment. Did FN jump the shark and decide to be the next trendy overpriced gun maker ala Q or what is actually going on here? To expound upon the first point, FN-America will only warranty the SCAR when an FN-manufactured suppressor is used. FN suppressors are only available to mil and LE. Therefore, FN will not warranty SCARs used by civvies with aftermarket suppressors. The second point, FN prices are verifiable on MGW. There was a point not too long ago when prices were suddenly all jacked up on MGW. It was verified that MGW doesn’t set the pricing, FN does. ETA: as to why FN pricing is all jacked up, I can only speculate. Maybe they’re trying to crush aftermarket SCAR builds. Maybe they’re trying to force everyone into warranty repairs rather than having self-sufficient users. IDK. I haven’t worked up the gumption to call and ask for a bullshit canned response. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 11:31:51 PM EST
[#34]
I'd probably just buy a JAKL or two...
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Posted: 12/13/2022 11:34:19 PM EST
[#35]
FN is trying to out do HK with pricing & ripping off costumers with BS policies, but suckers abound.
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Posted: 12/14/2022 8:24:55 PM EST
[#36]
FN is saying this is for collectors.
 
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Posted: 12/18/2022 8:50:36 PM EST
[#37]
  The BABY SCAR Has Arrived! : FN SCAR 15P | First MAG Review |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 10:34:44 PM EST
[#38]
FN has been one of the most disappointing gun manufacturers. Seems to me they had lots of missed opportunities. Like a SCAR 17 that takes .308 AR mags and better address the stock hinge area and stress to optics. While the last 2 things may be urban legend, they could have turned perceived weaknesses into perceived strengths. Better price point on the SCAR 16. SCAR 16 compact type gun in 5.7. P90 with more conventional ergonomics. Simplified M249 that costs less.
Instead we get an over priced 7.5” 5.56. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 10:42:53 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FN has been one of the most disappointing gun manufacturers. Seems to me they had lots of missed opportunities. Like a SCAR 17 that takes .308 AR mags and better address the stock hinge area and stress to optics. While the last 2 things may be urban legend, they could have turned perceived weaknesses into perceived strengths. Better price point on the SCAR 16. SCAR 16 compact type gun in 5.7. P90 with more conventional ergonomics. Simplified M249 that costs less. Or, you know, they could bring their pricing back down to earth. Their prices are outrageous, but I know there are plenty out there that will pay. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 10:43:03 PM EST
[#40]
  Nah Dawg. I’m good. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 10:47:21 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who would be retarded enough…https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504440/56615322-E498-4DFD-B1F0-69212D0D3874_jpe-2633736.JPG Isn't a Bren 2 nearly the same thing but $1500 |
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Posted: 12/19/2022 12:36:25 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't a Bren 2 nearly the same thing but $1500 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who would be retarded enough…https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504440/56615322-E498-4DFD-B1F0-69212D0D3874_jpe-2633736.JPG Isn't a Bren 2 nearly the same thing but $1500 Isn’t a Suzuki Samurai the same thing as a Gelandewagen but $15000? |
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Posted: 12/19/2022 12:49:49 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.5" 556 no thank you |
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Posted: 12/19/2022 1:14:53 AM EST
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Posted: 12/19/2022 1:16:12 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryFN is smoking effin' crack.
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Posted: 12/19/2022 1:23:24 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And if one suppresses it, the warranty is void. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 7.5" 556 no thank you And if one suppresses it, the warranty is void. Not on certain brands and models... Example is sico SAKER |
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Posted: 12/19/2022 1:47:51 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/133876/BB8575FF-5DB4-4CB7-869C-764F3FE1BD56_png-2640653.JPG So kewl, but don’t let it get wet in the winter. In all fairness, most of the tested rifles failed there including the AR15. |
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Posted: 12/19/2022 1:56:25 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In all fairness, most of the tested rifles failed there including the AR15. Ha, I know. I even own two SCAR rifles. But this pricing is ridiculous and it needs to be mocked. They should be $2100 or so. FN is acting like the SCAR is in the NFL when it was just a popular varsity kid in high school fifteen years ago. The updates are too little, too late. The current pricing is just an insult for what it is, and I say that as an owner of a couple. |
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Posted: 12/19/2022 1:59:31 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha, I know. I even own two SCAR rifles. But this pricing is ridiculous and it needs to be mocked. They should be $2100 or so. FN is acting like the SCAR is in the NFL when it was just a popular varsity kid in high school fifteen years ago. The updates are too little, too late. The current pricing is just an insult for what it is, and I say that as an owner of a couple. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In all fairness, most of the tested rifles failed there including the AR15. Ha, I know. I even own two SCAR rifles. But this pricing is ridiculous and it needs to be mocked. They should be $2100 or so. FN is acting like the SCAR is in the NFL when it was just a popular varsity kid in high school fifteen years ago. The updates are too little, too late. The current pricing is just an insult for what it is, and I say that as an owner of a couple. I'm more annoyed with the spare parts price increase than the cost of the rifle but I do agree the prices are insane. |
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Posted: 12/19/2022 2:19:05 AM EST
[#50]
Hell, I want a Sig Spear LT in the worst way but haven't pulled the trigger due to the price.
This is over a grand more and suppressing it voids the warranty? That's a hard pass for me dawg. Eta: not to mention 5.56 in a 7.5 inch barrel? |
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