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Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:20:24 PM EST
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what makes you think YOU know how to grill steaks?

that's laughable

I can cook a better steak than you without sous vide, since we're just talking out of our asses and all
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Sous vide steaks are great. For folks that don't know how to grill steaks.
what makes you think YOU know how to grill steaks?

that's laughable

I can cook a better steak than you without sous vide, since we're just talking out of our asses and all
Because I chose a very fine cut. I put it out out fridge 3-6 hours before I cook it.

Pro tip. It's the cut.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:22:19 PM EST
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I don't have the spare time to boil meat for hours. If I want a steak, I light a chimney starter full of lump charcoal and 30 minutes later I'm eating a medium rare steak with a perfectly seared crust.
There's a better perfect.
https://anovaculinary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/sous3.jpg
the steak on the right is about as awesome as you can ask a human being to cook it, IMHO.
Most people can do this 5 times out of 10, the others will be misses.
The one on the left, is something that almost looks alien, and it's attainable every time.
It's why it got so popular on this board, this wasn't an accident.

Here's 2 medium rare steaks.
https://images.anovaculinary.com/recipe-sous-vide-medium-rare-strip-steak/header/recipe-sous-vide-medium-rare-strip-steak-header-medium.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b4/49/cb/b449cb7bbadc6c7b595dda28869db9ee.jpg

There's flavor in that lost mass

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Yeah. My grilled steaks look like your sous vide ones. Take the steaks out of the fridge 3-4 hours before you cook them. I like sous vide. But your pics are bullshit.

Next you'll link how getting meat up to room temp is bullcrap. Then you'll dismiss the rest of the article.
Room temp meat right over a 700 degree lump fire, perfect every time and I don't have to start on dinner soon after lunch.
Sous vide steaks are great. For folks that don't know how to grill steaks.
Go shit in someone else's thread.
Wait what?  Didn't you just get a boiled steak device and loved it?
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:24:58 PM EST
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Because I chose a very fine cut. I put it out out fridge 3-6 hours before I cook it.

Pro tip. It's the cut.
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Sous vide steaks are great. For folks that don't know how to grill steaks.
what makes you think YOU know how to grill steaks?

that's laughable

I can cook a better steak than you without sous vide, since we're just talking out of our asses and all
Because I chose a very fine cut. I put it out out fridge 3-6 hours before I cook it.

Pro tip. It's the cut.
I choose an fine cut and then cook it better than you.

What now?
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:29:49 PM EST
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Why is it better at that? I have a thermapen that's pretty damn good at telling me when to pull those.
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I asked a chef if they used sous vide for steaks at his place and he said no.  He said they are well trained and experienced at producing steaks and it is no advantage.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:30:10 PM EST
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I’ve been following all the sous vide posts with interest and after watching a few sous vide everything vids on YouTube, which Somebody here recommended, I was sold!
My anovo is scheduled for delivery on Tuesday.
Funny thing is, I cook for a living, I’m an executive chef and I’ve resisted this method of cooking for years!
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:30:59 PM EST
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Why is it better at that? I have a thermapen that's pretty damn good at telling me when to pull those.
I asked a chef if they used sous vide for steaks at his place and he said no.  He said they are well trained and experienced at producing steaks and it is no advantage.
oh, and they have a 1400 degree broiler
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:43:57 PM EST
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Sweet, my wife got me the anova for Christmas, Randall’s had some NY strips on sale, after an hour at 129 and a quick sear with the cast iron (the quick boil setting on the stove works pretty well for this) and I would wager that it was probably the best steak I have ever cooked myself.

I’ll have to sneak one of those Coleman stacker coolers into the house for bigger cooks in the future.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:44:03 PM EST
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Why is it better at that? I have a thermapen that's pretty damn good at telling me when to pull those.
I asked a chef if they used sous vide for steaks at his place and he said no.  He said they are well trained and experienced at producing steaks and it is no advantage.
oh, and they have a 1400 degree broiler
I thought everybody had a salamander at home
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:44:07 PM EST
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I eat it. You gonna gimme a propane torch recemmendation or not?

I glazed honey baked hams during Xmas, put myself thru college with what I made.  I can handle it.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:45:05 PM EST
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Are the "boiled meat" people stupid or just retarded?

SV absolutely excels at shellfish. Shrimp, butter, garlic, wine in bag.  30min at 124 deg.  Boom perfect shrimp scampi.

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I can rock a steak, but I have never in my life grilled good shrimp. I may have to give sv a shot.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 6:57:19 PM EST
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I eat it. You gonna gimme a propane torch recemmendation or not?

I glazed honey baked hams during Xmas, put myself thru college with what I made.  I can handle it.
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I choose an fine cut and then cook it better than you.

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I eat it. You gonna gimme a propane torch recemmendation or not?

I glazed honey baked hams during Xmas, put myself thru college with what I made.  I can handle it.
I don't use a torch. Tried a few times but took too long and gave it a flavor.

I use a cast iron skillet on a 60,000 btu propane burner. Will post pics later.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:03:58 PM EST
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I don't use a torch. Tried a few times but took too long and gave it a flavor.

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What vacuum sealer do you use?
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:07:34 PM EST
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Yeah. My grilled steaks look like your sous vide ones. Take the steaks out of the fridge 3-4 hours before you cook them. I like sous vide. But your pics are bullshit.

Next you'll link how getting meat up to room temp is bullcrap. Then you'll dismiss the rest of the article.
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Got a pic of one of your steaks up close?
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:10:00 PM EST
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OP, what did you use to cut the lid?

I wonder how hot you can run it before it starts to melt the cooler?
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:12:33 PM EST
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sanitary tubing and triclover clamps.

Nice.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:12:50 PM EST
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Foodsaver FM5460, although I used ziplocs and immersion for more than a year
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:15:53 PM EST
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Why is it better at that? I have a thermapen that's pretty damn good at telling me when to pull those.
I asked a chef if they used sous vide for steaks at his place and he said no.  He said they are well trained and experienced at producing steaks and it is no advantage.
oh, and they have a 1400 degree broiler
I thought everybody had a salamander at home
You lucky mother trucker!

I imagine this is kind of how the iron sights vs magnified optics discussions were way back in the day.  People arguing against progressive technologies that way increase their efficacy because it's just different.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:16:37 PM EST
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OP, what did you use to cut the lid?

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A Rotozip with a spiral cut bit. I'm sure a Dremel would do fine. There was no melting... in fact, there was a TON of very fine and static charged saw dust.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:17:13 PM EST
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Foodsaver FM5460, although I used ziplocs and immersion for more than a year
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What vacuum sealer do you use?
Foodsaver FM5460, although I used ziplocs and immersion for more than a year
Do you find that the vac packer helps flavor?

I'v always done immersion and I think I prefer it, but would like to hear some 1st hand thoughts.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:17:32 PM EST
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There's no kill like overkill
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:20:30 PM EST
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You lucky mother trucker!

I imagine this is kind of how the iron sights vs magnified optics discussions were way back in the day.  People arguing against progressive technologies that way increase their efficacy because it's just different.
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Why is it better at that? I have a thermapen that's pretty damn good at telling me when to pull those.
I asked a chef if they used sous vide for steaks at his place and he said no.  He said they are well trained and experienced at producing steaks and it is no advantage.
oh, and they have a 1400 degree broiler
I thought everybody had a salamander at home
You lucky mother trucker!

I imagine this is kind of how the iron sights vs magnified optics discussions were way back in the day.  People arguing against progressive technologies that way increase their efficacy because it's just different.
I don't have a salamander, but it turns out there are a few designed for home use. But the reviews kinda suck.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:30:11 PM EST
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Do you find that the vac packer helps flavor?

I'v always done immersion and I think I prefer it, but would like to hear some 1st hand thoughts.
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Foodsaver FM5460, although I used ziplocs and immersion for more than a year
Do you find that the vac packer helps flavor?

I'v always done immersion and I think I prefer it, but would like to hear some 1st hand thoughts.
no, but I think it's better if you're going to pre-freeze your cuts before cooking.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:42:42 PM EST
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no, but I think it's better if you're going to pre-freeze your cuts before cooking.
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What vacuum sealer do you use?
Foodsaver FM5460, although I used ziplocs and immersion for more than a year
Do you find that the vac packer helps flavor?

I'v always done immersion and I think I prefer it, but would like to hear some 1st hand thoughts.
no, but I think it's better if you're going to pre-freeze your cuts before cooking.
The vac pack aids in conductive heat transfer between the bath and the meat but as soon at the meat produces any juice you're good to go.  So I've never bothered with it.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:45:38 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:46:10 PM EST
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You're easily my favorite nerd.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:47:58 PM EST
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Got a pic of one of your steaks up close?
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Yeah. My grilled steaks look like your sous vide ones. Take the steaks out of the fridge 3-4 hours before you cook them. I like sous vide. But your pics are bullshit.

Next you'll link how getting meat up to room temp is bullcrap. Then you'll dismiss the rest of the article.
Got a pic of one of your steaks up close?
I do. Anova (set at 132A deg F., IIRC) + Lodge + turkey burner

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Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:48:16 PM EST
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Yep.

I also like the variations in the cut, doesn't have to be perfect all over, makes it more interesting.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:56:51 PM EST
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Well I broke down, grew a vagina and bought the Anova WiFi Sous Vide today. Swung by Walmart and bought a Coleman cooler that I can make a vessel out of too. I have been watching YouTube videos and trying to learn about it.
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 7:57:41 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/31/2017 8:09:34 PM EST
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Yep.

I also like the variations in the cut, doesn't have to be perfect all over, makes it more interesting.
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Yep.

I also like the variations in the cut, doesn't have to be perfect all over, makes it more interesting.
I brought up the exact same point earlier in this thread.

Its like having a few different steaks all in 1 single steak. Especially when I grill up a New Yorker on the thicker side ( approaching 2" thick )
Approx 10% of the steak is true rare in the absolute center - about 70% will be med rare and maybe 20% outer edges are near medium but with that wonderful charcoal char taste and are fantastic ( think burnt ends on brisket ). Its like having 3 steaks in 1
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 8:12:44 PM EST
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My favorite thing to do with my souse vide rig is to shortcut the process when making smoked summer sausage and salami.

Usual process for 6" diameter sausages is to smoke them at low temp like 130 for an hour to dry them out, then 3-4 hours at 145 with heavy smoke to get the smoke flavor, followed by a long ass time like 12 hours or more at 160-165 to get the internal temp up to 152.

This time I did the drying phase, smoked for only 2 hours, then put the sausages into a sous vide bath at 155. They were up to 152 within two hours of going into the water. Total time was about five hours instead of the 16 or so it would normally take.

I didn't bother vac sealing them, so not really 'sous vide' more like poaching them in a controlled water bath.

Anyway, it worked awesome and they turned out better than any i've made the usual way. perfect doneness edge to edge. great smoke flavor. I'll never do it the long way again.
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I don't use a torch. Tried a few times but took too long and gave it a flavor.

I use a cast iron skillet on a 60,000 btu propane burner. Will post pics later.
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I choose an fine cut and then cook it better than you.

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I eat it. You gonna gimme a propane torch recemmendation or not?

I glazed honey baked hams during Xmas, put myself thru college with what I made.  I can handle it.
I don't use a torch. Tried a few times but took too long and gave it a flavor.

I use a cast iron skillet on a 60,000 btu propane burner. Will post pics later.
Try a MAPP torch instead of propane.

Hey OP what is that IKEA rack called? I have tried several times to find it on their site with no luck. Thanks!
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 8:39:10 PM EST
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Hey OP what is that IKEA rack called? I have tried several times to find it on their site with no luck. Thanks!
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Ikea Variera Pot Lid Organizer Stainless Steel Kitchen Tool

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Amazon link
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 8:42:25 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/31/2017 9:02:01 PM EST
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You can also infuse alcohol way faster than normal.  The bloody mary one was strange but good, the old fashioned is insanely delicious.


Link Posted: 12/31/2017 9:34:28 PM EST
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World's Easiest PRIME RIB! Sous Vide Guarantees Results
Link Posted: 1/1/2018 8:07:46 AM EST
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Yeah. My grilled steaks look like your sous vide ones. Take the steaks out of the fridge 3-4 hours before you cook them. I like sous vide. But your pics are bullshit.

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And using the fundamentals of SV, you could cut that 3-4 hours of time waiting for your steaks to come to "room temperature" to 30 minutes or less.

How hard is it to fill a pan in your kitchen sink - it's that easy.  Of course, I have a tankless water heater and can preset the temps from anywhere from 95 to 140 degrees.  The point is, with SV, I can get to my target temp in a very short time rather than waiting hours.  This is just to warm the meat, not really cook it.

Of course, that's when I'm in a hurry.  If I plan ahead, then I break out a cooler (about one minute), fill with hot water (about one minute) and install and start my Anova SV heater and circulator (another minute or so).  Is someone here really going to complain that SV "takes too long" when it literally takes longer to write this post than it does to set up SV?  (since I retired, I can't type worth a shit, hence takes me longer to fix typos. ).  Once it's in the water bath, I can do whatever I want for as long as it suits me.  This is now cooking with SV, since I'm now targeting a specific temp for a specific time.

Bottom line:  Easey-peasey.  And better food to boot.
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Thank you.  In this day and age, what with all the SV threads here, all the "boiled meat" types can't be that willfully ignorant.  Hence, let's shit in someone's SV thread is the more likely motive.
Link Posted: 1/1/2018 8:17:54 AM EST
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Same here - I like that fire grilled / charcoal taste. Plus it helps me bond with my cavemen ancestors cooking over open fire.

Someone above mentioned the error free perfect cook they get with sous vide. I can count on 2 fingers the number of steaks I have whiffed on in the past 10-20yrs.

Curious if sous vide lasst longer than the gimmick phase of a couple years ( example: the set it and forget craze / rotisserie )

To each their own .... those that are all in on sous vide seem to be more than happy. Just as I am more than happy not doing it.
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Same here - I like that fire grilled / charcoal taste. Plus it helps me bond with my cavemen ancestors cooking over open fire.

Someone above mentioned the error free perfect cook they get with sous vide. I can count on 2 fingers the number of steaks I have whiffed on in the past 10-20yrs.

Curious if sous vide lasst longer than the gimmick phase of a couple years ( example: the set it and forget craze / rotisserie )

To each their own .... those that are all in on sous vide seem to be more than happy. Just as I am more than happy not doing it.
Ive been using my home brew sous vide controller for at least five years. Since then the number of commercial devices has skyrocketed. I still smoke meat, reverse sear it, cook it on a charcoal and gas grill.  I also sous vide.  Depends on the cut, depends on the desired outcome.  It’s just another tool in the box.
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I went to a restaurant supply shop and went with one of these. Link
Polycarbonate bins. Has a plastic slightly flexible lid. Cut the hole large enough to slip over the mount.
Not quite large enough for my bigger cooks though. Need to get one of the longer trough ones.
12-16 gallons. So I could do multiple whole racks of ribs/whole briskets without breaking them down.
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Hey OP what is that IKEA rack called? I have tried several times to find it on their site with no luck. Thanks!
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I eat it. You gonna gimme a propane torch recemmendation or not?

I glazed honey baked hams during Xmas, put myself thru college with what I made.  I can handle it.
I don't use a torch. Tried a few times but took too long and gave it a flavor.

I use a cast iron skillet on a 60,000 btu propane burner. Will post pics later.
Try a MAPP torch instead of propane.

Hey OP what is that IKEA rack called? I have tried several times to find it on their site with no luck. Thanks!
I hear that you need to avoid using the hottest part of the flame to avoid the “gas” taste

Link Posted: 1/1/2018 2:49:31 PM EST
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When this topic comes up, I always picture Gale Boetticher boiling steaks in his kitchen.
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I used my SV for the first time yesterday on a ribeye.  It was cooked perfectly.
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And using the fundamentals of SV, you could cut that 3-4 hours of time waiting for your steaks to come to "room temperature" to 30 minutes or less.

How hard is it to fill a pan in your kitchen sink - it's that easy.  Of course, I have a tankless water heater and can preset the temps from anywhere from 95 to 140 degrees.  The point is, with SV, I can get to my target temp in a very short time rather than waiting hours.  This is just to warm the meat, not really cook it.

Of course, that's when I'm in a hurry.  If I plan ahead, then I break out a cooler (about one minute), fill with hot water (about one minute) and install and start my Anova SV heater and circulator (another minute or so).  Is someone here really going to complain that SV "takes too long" when it literally takes longer to write this post than it does to set up SV?  (since I retired, I can't type worth a shit, hence takes me longer to fix typos. ).  Once it's in the water bath, I can do whatever I want for as long as it suits me.  This is now cooking with SV, since I'm now targeting a specific temp for a specific time.

Bottom line:  Easey-peasey.  And better food to boot.
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Excellent point. Never thought about how quickly you could thaw it. GF got a Anova SV cooker for xmas and is very excited but neither of us has done it before and so I guess we'll start with a stock pot I have for now.  We are both very good at grilling on charcoal but also both very interested in trying this too now.
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Just had some SV steaks yesterday. Seared before serving. Perfect!
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