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Posted: 10/30/2019 11:32:05 AM EST
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What do you guys think? Too bad? He must not have had insurance////
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Killdozer time.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:36:15 AM EST
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That’s what you get for allowing a suspect to barricade themselves in your home.

/sarcasm
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:39:19 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:39:35 AM EST
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The movie Law Abiding Citizen comes to mind.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:43:02 AM EST
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Well, a lotta cops are gonna see that ruling and think "that's quite enabling!"
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:44:07 AM EST
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Judges would rule differently if IT WAS THEM that had this happen. Assholes.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:44:53 AM EST
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Can't be burdened with accountability or responsibility for their actions.

Things need to change.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:45:43 AM EST
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The court acknowledged that this may seem “unfair,” but when police have to protect the public, they can’t be “burdened with the condition” that they compensate whoever is damaged by their actions along the way.
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Bullshit, the city/state pays for everything not the police.

By this theory, a police officer would never risk damaging a police vehicle or other equipment, which is overtly not how it works.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:48:26 AM EST
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I refuse to rewatch that movie because the writers didn’t realize who the good guy was and made it so the bad guy won.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:48:34 AM EST
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It's their world we're just living in it.

Keep your head down and pick up cans
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:51:17 AM EST
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Did the officers make it home safe though?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:52:01 AM EST
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$400,000 in out of pocket expenses.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:52:52 AM EST
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It sucks that we have to deal with the costs from these shitbags.  They should be forced to work in labor camps until full restitution is made to their victims.  Should have had insurance.  The police destroyed property to protect life.  I am ok with that choice.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:53:02 AM EST
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The bigger crime is the OP's use of a hyphen...
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:53:46 AM EST
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You can’t be concerned with property damage in the moment but when all is said and done there is a responsibility to make things right. He needs to appeal that to scotus. If a city can pay 19 million for some gay comment this department can buy them a new home and compensate them for the last 5 years.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:53:52 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:55:41 AM EST
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Why not sue the criminal, or his family, who caused the problem?

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Because shitbag will have no assets.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:56:35 AM EST
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Don’t worry guys I am sure all the good cops out there will take care of this.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:58:14 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:58:59 AM EST
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Because shitbag will have no assets.
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Why not sue the criminal, or his family, who caused the problem?

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Because shitbag will have no assets.
He knows that.  TBL
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:59:44 AM EST
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What’s with all the cop hating threads? Is it crap on Police day? Wtf
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:00:02 PM EST
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I refuse to rewatch that movie because the writers didn’t realize who the good guy was and made it so the bad guy won.
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Yes the ending sucked. The rest was good though.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:00:16 PM EST
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The guy that stole T-shirts from Walmart?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:01:10 PM EST
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FWIW, the GVPD chief is a real piece of work.

Told me suppressors are not for hunting and asked why I needed one and also wrote the first letter to the ATF on pistol braces.

Best to ventilate armed intruders on your own accord round these parts.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:02:14 PM EST
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He knows that.  TBL
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We all know that.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:02:14 PM EST
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It sucks that we have to deal with the costs from these shitbags.  They should be forced to work in labor camps until full restitution is made to their victims.  Should have had insurance. The police destroyed **private**property to protect life.  I am ok with that choice.
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:05:35 PM EST
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Well, a lotta cops are gonna see that ruling and think "that's quite enabling!"
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lol... They already know.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:07:19 PM EST
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So?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:08:36 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:09:13 PM EST
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Must have been a super-sized t-shirt heist to justify that level of destruction.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:09:29 PM EST
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So what life were they protecting?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:10:06 PM EST
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Response seems appropriate

For al qaeda compound.  In afghanistan
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:10:35 PM EST
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lol, because criminals families have a million laying around? Lawsuits don't make magic money appear.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:10:43 PM EST
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So if the cops blow up your house and give you nothing in compensation you will be peachy keen with it?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:11:33 PM EST
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What’s with all the cop hating threads? Is it crap on Police day? Wtf
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That’s everyday. The judges are the ones that fucked up.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:11:55 PM EST
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Response seems appropriate

For al qaeda compound.  In afghanistan
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Those guys are amateurs compared to what we see in main street USA
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:12:22 PM EST
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So what life were they protecting?
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It's either a policy or it's not.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:12:56 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:14:33 PM EST
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That is super fucked up, both places I have copped at had a risk management department that would come out and survey damage and cut a check for damages we caused to third party property in the course of doing business like kicked in doors or broken windows

They wouldn't pay you if you barricaded in your own house or whatever but if we had to boot some old ladies door cause she fell down or bust into a lockout apartment complex for a DV in progress or something they never gave anyone problems with reimbursement.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:15:28 PM EST
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When I started fresh out of law school at a small firm, I had a case where they were filming a Cops episode.  The police were going to serve a warrant.   Right off the bat, they launched tear gas through the windows, ripped the door off, burned part of the house down.

Not only was no one home, it was the wrong house!  Suspect lived on a different street.  Too bad the city said and refused to pay the damages to the homeowner.

Don't know how it turned out, left that place before it wrapped up.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:15:36 PM EST
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Protect and serve they did.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:16:18 PM EST
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I guess the burden on the city paying for the family's house, out weighed the burden place on the family that lives there.

An over bearing government is no friend of it's citizens.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:17:34 PM EST
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It sucks that we have to deal with the costs from these shitbags.  They should be forced to work in labor camps until full restitution is made to their victims.  Should have had insurance.  The police destroyed property to protect life.  I am ok with that choice.
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I am also OK with them destroying property to protect life. Burn the fucker to the ground, that's fine.

BUT

Then the property owner needs to be MADE WHOLE. They need to be compensated such that they have their house and possessions back just as before.

The CITY be forced to have some kind of insurance policy to pay for these things. Is that not a thing? We're forced to buy car insurance in case we fuck up. These municipalities should have to as well.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:19:18 PM EST
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It sucks that we have to deal with the costs from these shitbags.  They should be forced to work in labor camps until full restitution is made to their victims.  Should have had insurance.  The police destroyed property to protect life.  I am ok with that choice.
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It sucks that we have to deal with the costs from these shitbags.  They should be forced to work in labor camps until full restitution is made to their victims.  Should have had insurance.  The police destroyed property to protect life.  I am ok with that choice.
More like should have read the fine print.  This is pretty typical:

Governmental Action, meaning the destruction, confiscation or seizure of property described in Coverage A, B or C by order of any
any of governmental or public authority.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:21:01 PM EST
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He would be out the rental income and whatever amount if his deductible increased.  I guess there could be the potential of a decrease in appraised value.  Not sure if that amounts to 400k.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:21:48 PM EST
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The police went home safe, so all is well. To be honest, Mr. Ungrateful Homeowner should be forced to pay for clean up and court fees for all police officers involved.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:24:43 PM EST
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How is the guy out $400k if the city paid his deductible and temp housing and insurance paid the rest???? Was he under insured or something?
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That what I was thinking, that doesn't look like a $400k house. I bet much of that $400k might be lawyer fees.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:29:22 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:31:07 PM EST
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If you think this is cop hating you've got problems.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 12:32:37 PM EST
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I don't believe that violence will solve much, but if the gov't/police leave someone with little left to lose, as in that situation....

Well, that's a dangerous situation, and it disheartens me that they do not see the danger in it.

They are lucky that the homeowner is a civilized man. I feel that government could use this precedent to sidestep eminent domain, or at least save themselves a few bucks. "We thought there was a bad guy in there!" as bulldozers crash through the front door. "well, that house is only worth $5k for the lot, even though it used to be a $400k house right where we wanted that new police station to go. Here's your check."
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