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View Quote looks like the second stage didn't fall off until almost 10 seconds after the initial explosion, that thing was built pretty damn sturdy |
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Quoted: Conspiracy? https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--nd53Z4_e--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ccvga6yxzaxujs2ai4j5.gif View Quote Hard to tell for sure but it looks like that initiated external to the rocket. |
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Looking at video and scrubbing back and forth, it looks almost like it's between the craft and the umbilical structure.
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Quoted: Conspiracy? https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--nd53Z4_e--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ccvga6yxzaxujs2ai4j5.gif View Quote Clearly the bird had a small laser attached to its leg as it flew by. |
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View Quote Marshmallows anyone? Big boom. |
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Conspiracy nuts are going to be calling that a bomb attack...no doubt about it.
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Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite: Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance. ouch |
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Quoted: Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite: Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance. ouch View Quote There will be a lot of finger pointing trying to decide who's insurance will cover that loss. Some people are really going to wish they read all of the fine print. |
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I can see a little flare half way up the rocket past the first stage about 20sec before the front fell off. It's on the left side of the rocket.
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There will be a lot of finger pointing trying to decide who's insurance will cover that loss. Some people are really going to wish they read all of the fine print. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite: Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance. ouch There will be a lot of finger pointing trying to decide who's insurance will cover that loss. Some people are really going to wish they read all of the fine print. only people getting money out of this once the dust will probably be the lawyers |
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Spacecom, the owner of the satellite onboard today's Falcon 9; are down
9% on their stock exchange today; and continuing to fall. |
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Looking at video and scrubbing back and forth, it looks almost like it's between the craft and the umbilical structure. Definitely not near the 1st stage. That's what I thought I saw. Looks like whatever hose/fueling/electrical/all of the between the 2nd stage/payload just popped and blew. Of course, it could be a bad grounding wire, something disconnected early, pump or valve issues, etc. I'm sure they already had cameras pointing exactly at that spot and will be able to determine what failed and the mode of failure. That first explosion causes a second and more fuel is added to the fire and it expands both down and out with rapidly rising gasses. Eventually either from heat or the shock wave the vehicle structure fails releasing all of the fuel and that's the big boom which is usually bigger than the 1st boom. |
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As for insurance, I would be surprised if it is not covered for issues other than just launch.
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You may be right when it comes to the higher ups and press releases. But I live with these guys, RUD is a known and used term with folks at the space coast. View Quote I've heard it in the Kerbal Space Program community, too. As long as NASA and SpaceX don't start joking about lithobraking, all is well. |
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[ granny from MARS ATTACKS ] " hahahha...they blew up facebook !!!"
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[ granny from MARS ATTACKS ] " hahahha...they blew up facebook !!!"
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Isn't this a re-use? If so, that really sucks. Even more, I mean. Yes, it is for re-use. Today's launch was its first re-use. Well they certainly are not going to use that one again. |
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Isn't this a re-use? If so, that really sucks. Even more, I mean. Yes, it is for re-use. Today's launch was its first re-use. Not according to other posts I made earlier. |
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Did anyone else cringe when the payload slowly keeled over and did its death dive? |
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Quoted: https://youtu.be/_BgJEXQkjNQ You can see something fly across the screen in the lower half of the screen then shortly after something fly across higher in the screen right before the explosions.....Probably a coincidence but still..... Start at 1 minute. Looking at it a few more times you can see multiple streaks across the screen....I'd guess bugs. View Quote I expected the explosion to start in the bottom. But it looks like it started in the "corona of the glans" area on the right. |
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I would like to point out "THE STEEL DID NOT MELT." |
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This blows.
On the bright side, like others have said it looks like the explosion initiated from the strongback/2nd stage interface. If that's the case it could be that this wasn't a flaw with the actual rocket which would be good thing. Either way SpaceX is going to be looking at some serious delays even just rebuilding the pad. Their launch book was already seriously crowded for this year, not to mention development and flight of Falcon Heavy and Dragon 2. If it's not a vehicle issue they could potentially fly from SLC 39 as I understand it can support both F9 and FH. Any way you spin it though, this is a serious setback |
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Anyone else notice how the thermal pulse SMOKED the pylons atop the lighting protection towers, even though none were touched directly by the blast or flames?
Go back and watch the video and pay attention to the white pylons on the towers to the right of the actual Falcon and the gantry as the explosion gets going. It's like a smaller version of those nuclear tests where everything starts smoking and frying before the blast wave even gets there. I wonder how far away you could have still felt some heat on your face from that. |
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