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Quoted: They even outright helped the communists steal the Arizona election in 2022. That's how fucked up the Republican party is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: a not insignificant portion of the gop is in on it They even outright helped the communists steal the Arizona election in 2022. That's how fucked up the Republican party is. This is why we nolonger donate to the GOP. We told them that also when they called begging for money. We told them we will donate to the candidates campaign of our choosing and not theirs. We told the GOP to FO that they were no better than the DNC. Yet still they refuse to stop calling us. After we've told them to take us off their call list. F the GOP. They gave AZ to the Socialist Democratic regime |
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Quoted: Not sure what .... Without an investigation, and a conviction, no laws were broken (legally... Dude, laws get broken and are broken before they are investigated or anyone gets convicted of doing it. IDK why you would believe something like that, but I can't fathom anything good underlying it. That is some scary john yoo level doublethink stuff. ... and you did it again: Strictly what is legal, because that is all that matters here. No, laws are not in a pocket universe, they are not seperate from the real world, if you treat them like a game, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near them, you might just be a genuine monster. Law is not a game, and it is in large part messed up because people who believe stuff like what you're saying are allowed to be involved in it. Do you ahve a functional conscience? Can you tell what others are feeling? You're throwing red flags left right and center. View Quote I don't know what to tell you, our system is built on laws, what is right or wrong is subjective to society as a whole, hence laws to try to make something objective. What you believe is literally your opinion and nobody really cares about it except you and it doesn't influence the world. What does influence the world is what can be proven, ruled on, and codified. You are going to have a rough time in life if you react to logical discussion by just trying to repeat your position louder and try to attack the other person and not their arguments. Feels don't matter, don't base your decisions on them. The democrats legally cheated the system to win, is that "stealing the election" as the original question of the thread asks? Practically, in our system of federalism, it doesn't really matter if we think it was stolen or not does it? That is the real problem, the system doesn't work, that was probably the most impactful thing to come out of the election. But I'm done with your responses and strange veiled personal attacks. |
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Quoted: What have been the alternate explanations for what was seen in the video? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You unprovens will have to convince me that i did not see folks on video from Fulton Co pulling out boxes of hidden ballots and count them after the polls were closed, after a plumbing leak. What have been the alternate explanations for what was seen in the video? “That’s already been debunked.” With no further explanation- just that it has been. Not sure who debunked it, or how, but any questioning is usually just answered with “debunked”. |
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Quoted: This is why we nolonger donate to the GOP. We told them that also when they called begging for money. We told them we will donate to the candidates campaign of our choosing and not theirs. We told the GOP to FO that they were no better than the DNC. Yet still they refuse to stop calling us. After we've told them to take us off their call list. F the GOP. They gave AZ to the Socialist Democratic regime View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: a not insignificant portion of the gop is in on it They even outright helped the communists steal the Arizona election in 2022. That's how fucked up the Republican party is. This is why we nolonger donate to the GOP. We told them that also when they called begging for money. We told them we will donate to the candidates campaign of our choosing and not theirs. We told the GOP to FO that they were no better than the DNC. Yet still they refuse to stop calling us. After we've told them to take us off their call list. F the GOP. They gave AZ to the Socialist Democratic regime The RNC = NRA. |
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Living in Thailand I know many foreigners that say that the 2020 election was stolen.
Only fools in the USA brainwashed by the MSM believe otherwise. |
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Quoted: I don't know what to tell you, our system is built on laws, what is right or wrong is subjective to society as a whole, hence laws to try to make something objective. What you believe is literally your opinion and nobody really cares about it except you and it doesn't influence the world. What does influence the world is what can be proven, ruled on, and codified. You are going to have a rough time in life if you react to logical discussion by just trying to repeat your position louder and try to attack the other person and not their arguments. Feels don't matter, don't base your decisions on them. The democrats legally cheated the system to win, is that "stealing the election" as the original question of the thread asks? Practically, in our system of federalism, it doesn't really matter if we think it was stolen or not does it? That is the real problem, the system doesn't work, that was probably the most impactful thing to come out of the election. But I'm done with your responses and strange veiled personal attacks. View Quote The fact that no one was convicted or none of the fraud cases were heard by the courts does not equate to it being "legal". Like me driving 65 in a 60 MPH zone, just because I didn't get caught or get a ticket doesn't mean that I didn't break the law and drive illegally. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There was fraud, yes. Did it change the election results? Inconclusive/Unproven. Colorado man pleads guilty to casting missing wife's ballot |
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I don't think anyone can honestly say it was not.
Let's put aside all the shenanigans with mail in ballots (which is enough to say it was stolen), the interference of the deep states into Biden's laptop is enough to say it was stolen. If that info would not have changed the outcome of the election, then why did they work so hard to suppress it? |
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The biggest shocker to me in 2020 was Arizona. I would sooner have thought Texas would turn blue than Arizona.
Florida, on the other hand, was a pleasant surprise. |
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Quoted: No fucking way Biden got 81 million legitimate votes. View Quote As with many things in life, reality doesn't always match expectations ......... e.g. the fraudit in Arizona was thought to most assuredly prove widespread fraud .......... but didn't. Funny thing is the actual attempted fraud was committed by Defendents Trump, Giuliani, Powell et. al. but they would have folks believe it was the other way around. LOL |
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Every election since Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose Party has proof of being fucked with
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Quoted: At a minimum it was thoroughly manipulated by the Democrats and their deep state toadies. Their lies and censoring and suppression of information are now well documented. View Quote On lots of levels and in many different ways, the election of 2020 was heavily influenced against Trump. I don't believe that some coordinated, organized top-down fraud, but instead lots of "fellow travelers" doing hinkey things on smaller more localized levels. Add in media being solidly against Trump (see the Time article about how they colluded to "fortify" the election), and the effort to suppress and then sew doubt about Hunter's laptop combined with the censorship levied against it... The election was definitely not fair and open, and I think plenty people were influenced not to vote FOR Biden, but to vote AGAINST Trump. If there was not a sufficient number of actual bogus or manipulated ballots, the media influence was enough to affect the outcome. |
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Quoted: They are going to rinse and repeat for 2024. Bringing back the mask mandates and fear for mail in ballots, arresting and charging the opposition. You have to be pretty fucking retarded to believe 2020 wasn’t stolen. The evidence is overwhelming. In GA they literally caught them with suitcases full of ballets. View Quote Never underestimate the level of retardation that some of our Dem/RINO (yeah, I know they're the same) posters exude. I miss my ignore list. |
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I don't believe the voting machines are 100% secure. Shit, is anything? |
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Quoted: As with many things in life, reality doesn't always match expectations ......... e.g. the fraudit in Arizona was thought to most assuredly prove widespread fraud .......... but didn't. Funny thing is the actual attempted fraud was committed by Defendents Trump, Giuliani, Powell et. al. but they would have folks believe it was the other way around. LOL View Quote Oh I can't wait to hear you explain this post. |
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Quoted: As with many things in life, reality doesn't always match expectations ......... e.g. the fraudit in Arizona was thought to most assuredly prove widespread fraud .......... but didn't. Funny thing is the actual attempted fraud was committed by Defendents Trump, Giuliani, Powell et. al. but they would have folks believe it was the other way around. LOL View Quote The charge was election interference which is not fraud , try comparing the two on here and claim they are one in the same . The dems / Barr commited multiple cases of proven election interference so where are the charges for them ? You do recall the laptop , 51 liars and the Twitter files don't you ? , = real election interference . |
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This next election it is going to take all patriots to help prevent election fraud.
.Be a poll watcher and do not allow them to ask you to leave due to some BS excuse, water main break, stopping counting until tomorrow, etc. . Park infront of ballot drop boxes and make videos of people, vehicles and license plate numbers of people dropping ballots. Too many of these locations had their surveillance cameras "malfunction" in 2020. |
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There were definitely shenanigans afoot in the election.
I think the bigger conspiracy was/is the coordinated media manipulation of everything surrounding Trump. I think the constant lies and misrepresentation by the media swayed the election. Just the Hunter laptop story being buried was enough to sway the results on it's own. |
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Quoted: I will never believe Joe Biden got 81 million legal votes. Never. Stolen? Of course it was. View Quote I will take this to my grave, that son of bitch did not get that many votes... They have built mathematical/statistical models of voting trends over the past 100 years and if he got that many votes it will be the first time in history such an anomaly occurred...models prove it was statistically impossible for FJB to win. But as long as the media is in the boat with you, nothing will come of it. Remember, FJB won by less than 70,000 votes, and the midnight special vote count was done in predetermined precincts that they KNEW UP FRONT, they had to win to get the electoral count. This whole scheme was hatched by 6 PM, January 20, 2017. |
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Quoted: If Trump is running, then really any Democrat will be elected View Quote Last time it was 42 ,000 votes and Biden wasn't exposed yet as the lying sack of shit he is, he would get annihilated in a debate when his numerous lies get mentioned . They will have to replace him and time is running out . |
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Quoted: I live in WA state. Home of "Recount until the democrat wins", dead republicans voting for democrats, spoiled votes going to the democrat because "every vote counts", all the votes from republican leaning areas going missing, and so on, and that's before the extra fraud allowed by mail in voting. I am also pretty sure I could register the neighbor's dog to vote in this state... I came from BC, where you need a voter ID card, you vote in person, mark an X on a ballot, and spoiled votes get tossed. View Quote Sounds more secure than Nevada. |
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Quoted: Tell us all. Who do you think does. Just curious.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Trump has no path to get to the white house. Tell us all. Who do you think does. Just curious.... A Democrat will be elected. It may not be Biden, but republicans can't win. In the unlikely event that Trump loses the Primary enough of his supporters won't vote to doom any other republican candidate. Trump has less support now than in 2020. He has spent the last four years bitching rather than building a political ground machine to win an election. The electoral college map will be less favorable to him in this election than the last. |
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There was definitely some very fishy stuff going on that nobody has been able to explain.....
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Quoted: I don't know what to tell you, our system is built on laws, what is right or wrong is subjective to society as a whole, hence laws to try to make something objective. What you believe is literally your opinion and nobody really cares about it except you and it doesn't influence the world. What does influence the world is what can be proven, ruled on, and codified. You are going to have a rough time in life if you react to logical discussion by just trying to repeat your position louder and try to attack the other person and not their arguments. Feels don't matter, don't base your decisions on them. The democrats legally cheated the system to win, is that "stealing the election" as the original question of the thread asks? Practically, in our system of federalism, it doesn't really matter if we think it was stolen or not does it? That is the real problem, the system doesn't work, that was probably the most impactful thing to come out of the election. But I'm done with your responses and strange veiled personal attacks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Not sure what .... Without an investigation, and a conviction, no laws were broken (legally... Dude, laws get broken and are broken before they are investigated or anyone gets convicted of doing it. IDK why you would believe something like that, but I can't fathom anything good underlying it. That is some scary john yoo level doublethink stuff. ... and you did it again: Strictly what is legal, because that is all that matters here. No, laws are not in a pocket universe, they are not seperate from the real world, if you treat them like a game, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near them, you might just be a genuine monster. Law is not a game, and it is in large part messed up because people who believe stuff like what you're saying are allowed to be involved in it. Do you ahve a functional conscience? Can you tell what others are feeling? You're throwing red flags left right and center. I don't know what to tell you, our system is built on laws, what is right or wrong is subjective to society as a whole, hence laws to try to make something objective. What you believe is literally your opinion and nobody really cares about it except you and it doesn't influence the world. What does influence the world is what can be proven, ruled on, and codified. You are going to have a rough time in life if you react to logical discussion by just trying to repeat your position louder and try to attack the other person and not their arguments. Feels don't matter, don't base your decisions on them. The democrats legally cheated the system to win, is that "stealing the election" as the original question of the thread asks? Practically, in our system of federalism, it doesn't really matter if we think it was stolen or not does it? That is the real problem, the system doesn't work, that was probably the most impactful thing to come out of the election. But I'm done with your responses and strange veiled personal attacks. It wasn't a strange nor veiled attack. I asked becase the stuff you posted (in my experience) is normally posted by people who are darn near to being or are actually are psychopaths. I had no idea if you are or not, so I just asked. Apparently I have to explain to you that in when you do what a law says you shouldn't do, that means you have broken that law. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/break/violate%20the%20law break/violate the law idiom : to do something illegal https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/break+a+law break a law break a/the law To do something that is illegal. And we know what illegal means. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/illegal illegal adjective uk /?'li?.g?l/ us /?'li?.g?l/ B2 not allowed by law: This concept is so incredibly simple and basic that people will not believe you do not understand it and will assign ulterior motives to you for mouthing the idea that you dont' break a law till you get caught and convicged of it, when, if you can walk and breathe, you are intelligent enough to understand that breaking the law means when you do what the law says don't do. "Right and wrong is subjective" you don't wont' and can't live according do that and if you tell me you do I'll call you a liar and you will be one to, because humans can't do that. We all believe there are things that are - always, everywhere, and under all circumstances - right or wrong to do. Subjectivism is not a valid excuse for people to get away with doing or not doing whatever it is that they are trying to do or shirk. The democrats didn't even "legally" cheat the system even under your bizarro world reasoning. They got caught. There's really no point in discussing things with you if you will pull these sorts of word tricks, because you'll just appeal to suibjectivism, make stuff up that is obviously stupid, and go on your merry way just doing what you wanted to anynways. |
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Quoted: or is that a conspiracy theory? Trump legit lost because he made so many people angry? for that matter, was the 2016 stolen? then stolen back? The MSM and dems seemed quite surprised, hils was supposed to be 'inevitable'. View Quote I honestly don't even think that he really had a transition team in place yet. |
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Quoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg As a matter of fact if anyone's gets a public platform and even mentions a corrupted election now. This Socialist regime and it's prosecutors will come after you. If they consider you a great enough threat. They will make up BS charges. Then use American taxpayers dollars to prosecute you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I believe it was. That being said Trump needs to move on now. It's old news. There can be no "moving on" from blatantly unethical and unaccountable elections. There just can't. To do so, means accepting that we no longer have a functioning, legitimate government. That is the problem. The next decade will be nothing more than a race to disarm, imprison, and kill off the kind of people who might take ultimate offense to it. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg As a matter of fact if anyone's gets a public platform and even mentions a corrupted election now. This Socialist regime and it's prosecutors will come after you. If they consider you a great enough threat. They will make up BS charges. Then use American taxpayers dollars to prosecute you. While we all just stand by and watch. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88151/45158AA8-6713-4844-A0E8-E18E6EF7DF6F-2934511.jpgIs anyone wearing "Build Back Better" hats? Are you seeing any "Biden 2024" flags flying from people's homes? Any new "Ridin' with Biden" bumper stickers? There is no fucking way in hell that corrupt, stumbling, bumbling, brain dead fool won the election. View Quote And I’m seeing 100s of Trump signs in my county. And ZERO Pedo Joe signs. The election was stolen and the Left is brazen enough to do it again. Some people literally have only two brain cells to rub together when they say it was not stolen in 2020. |
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If he loses, it will be because Never_Trumpers just like you two, will either vote for the democrat, or not at all.
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They had felt markers on all the voting booths where I voted. Surprise surprise, felt markers bled and caused a lot of disqualifications. Deliberate? Bring your own black pen when you go to vote.
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Quoted: I think that on election night 2016, Trump was just as surprised as everyone else when he started pulling ahead. When they called several big states for Trump, I thought "That s.o.b. is actually gonna pull this off!" I honestly don't even think that he really had a transition team in place yet. View Quote Hillary SAF did , campaign staffers were interviewing for the positions before the election . They were shocked and butthurt when their dream jobs disappeared, they came back in 3 years with a score to settle . Trump needs to reciprocate . |
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Quoted: Completely honest. Nothing to hide https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2218/th-1581236780_jpg-2930536.JPG View Quote |
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One contender filled stadiums at every venue/rally.
His opponent had trouble filling a two car garage yet got more votes than Bathhouse Barry or the # of registered voters? How does that work? |
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Quoted: If he loses, it will be because Never_Trumpers just like you two, will either vote for the democrat, or not at all. View Quote Not because of a stolen election again? Because I voted for him in 2020, along with every other ‘Never_Trumper’ I’ve seen post here, and he still got creamed. |
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