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11/24/2006 7:53:36 PM EDT
I want to add:



Or:



However the recoil system is in the way.  I read somewhere that you can mod it so the recoil system is out of the stock.  Anyone know anything about this?

ETA: Thank you MM for the use of the photos...
11/24/2006 7:54:34 PM EDT
[#1]
thats a 870

 edit ....


Drr I should read

no that will not fit because of the spring in the stock as you said

never heard of a mod before so tag
11/24/2006 8:02:40 PM EDT
[#2]
He wants to install that stock on an 11-87.

Sage do a conversion called the Sidewinder, whereby they relocated the recoil spring to around the mag tube (like a Franchi shotgun). I have no idea whether the conversion is reliable (I'd be skeptical):




The big question for me is WHY ? Those M4 stock adapter abominations look butt ugly and flimsy as hell. My 11-87 has a Choate pistol grip stock - strong as a brick privy, and very comfortable to shoot with. Works with the standard recoil spring mechanism too, of course:

11/24/2006 8:08:55 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
He wants to install that stock on an 11-87.

The big question for me is WHY ? Those stocks look butt ugly and flimsy as hell. My 11-87 has a Choate pistol grip stock - strong as a brick privy, and very comfortable to shoot with. Works with the standard recoil spring mechanism too, of course:

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Mostly correct.

I want to install the adapter for an A1 or RRA Entry Stock to reduce the LOP while maintaining the pistol grip.  
11/24/2006 8:12:15 PM EDT
[#4]
the shotgun should be banned and pix should be removed for having 87 in the name of it
11/24/2006 8:15:57 PM EDT
[#5]
Sage:



Does the cheesy coat and 70's hair do come with it
11/24/2006 8:22:07 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I want to install the adapter for an A1 or RRA Entry Stock to reduce the LOP while maintaining the pistol grip.  


Then I would suggest you look at the Choate pistol grip stocks - they do them in standard and "body armor" lengths, giving adjustability with spacers from 11.75" to 14":


Standard stock


Body Armor stock (not sure if this fits the 1187)
11/24/2006 8:42:31 PM EDT
[#7]
I wouldn't suggest making any modifications to the recoil system on an 11xx unless you don't really care how reliable it is.
11/24/2006 8:49:36 PM EDT
[#8]
I agree with the length of pull issue as most shotguns are too long. Don't take it from me at Louis Awerbuck's shotgun course this year he complained about 90% of all his students had gun stocks fit for bird hunting not fighting.

I use the Speedfeed stock on my 870s and 11-87P in the short (female) version. You loose the ability to hold shells in the stock but who cares...

I'm 6'4" 250 and I use the girl stock... BUT, it works....
11/25/2006 4:37:18 AM EDT
[#9]
Bump for the day walkers...
11/25/2006 4:58:18 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I agree with the length of pull issue as most shotguns are too long. Don't take it from me at Louis Awerbuck's shotgun course this year he complained about 90% of all his students had gun stocks fit for bird hunting not fighting.

I use the Speedfeed stock on my 870s and 11-87P in the short (female) version. You loose the ability to hold shells in the stock but who cares...

I'm 6'4" 250 and I use the girl stock... BUT, it works....


+1 on the Speedfeed stocks.  Best $100 for a 'handy' shotgun I've found.  The pistol-grip only thing doesn't work to well.  The shotgun is a shoulder fired weapon.  That from-the-hip shit is ignorant and makes no more sense than firing a rifle that way.  Yes, with enough practice, it can be done.  But it only makes sense if one arm isn't working or it's a inside-the-car gun.
11/25/2006 5:05:30 AM EDT
[#11]
The Sidewinders don't seem to be all that reliable.

One of the guys from CavArms had one that he posted about a while back.

11/25/2006 5:16:55 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:


You loose the ability to hold shells in the stock but who cares...


If the shells were too loose, would they be loost forever or could you tighten them up?
11/25/2006 5:57:29 AM EDT
[#13]
TC6969... Not sure what you mean on this. The short version of the Speedfeed stock doesn't come with the holes on either side to store additional ammunition.

I agree with the comments on the pistol grip only setup. I use a 10" Remington 870 with a pistol grip only as a breeching gun and occasionally for very close in work. You can't beat the power and intimidation value provided by the 12ga. BUT, it's difficult to hit with much past 10-15 yards.
11/25/2006 9:57:25 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
TC6969... Not sure what you mean on this. The short version of the Speedfeed stock doesn't come with the holes on either side to store additional ammunition.



I think he was clowning on you for loose/lose.
11/26/2006 8:00:32 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
TC6969... Not sure what you mean on this. The short version of the Speedfeed stock doesn't come with the holes on either side to store additional ammunition.



I think He definitely was clowning on you for loose/lose.


Search TC's posts, I think at least 85% of them are loose/lose corrections.