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11/9/2005 7:13:23 PM EDT
What is the approximate minimum distance at which you could be struck in the head by a .223 fired in your direction, and have it bounce off w/o causing any damage?

Is that even possible?  

11/9/2005 7:16:48 PM EDT
[#1]
Try 10 feet, if that doesn't work, go to 20...
11/9/2005 7:17:42 PM EDT
[#2]
i dont know.  i guess i will try next time i go to the range.
11/9/2005 7:19:06 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
i dont know.  i guess i will try next time i go to the range.



...try shooting or being shot at?
11/9/2005 7:21:03 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Try 10 feet, if that doesn't work, go to 20...





____________________________________
The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.


11/9/2005 7:23:29 PM EDT
[#5]
WTF, lets start at 20 feet with a 22.
11/9/2005 7:25:07 PM EDT
[#6]
at 550 meters they still knock down the pop-ups
11/9/2005 7:26:58 PM EDT
[#7]
What is the max distance a .223 round will cover, fired at an elevated angle?
11/9/2005 7:28:18 PM EDT
[#8]
18,216'
11/9/2005 7:28:30 PM EDT
[#9]
This has to be the dumbest thing I have read all day!

11/9/2005 7:29:46 PM EDT
[#10]
13, 573.04'
11/9/2005 7:33:30 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
This has to be the dumbest thing I have read all day!




It's 10:30 on a Wed night...

You still have an hour and a half...


11/9/2005 7:35:05 PM EDT
[#12]
assinine...  who comes up with such thoughts?
11/9/2005 7:37:31 PM EDT
[#13]
Well, what is the answer?  Is there a distance at which a .223 would strike you in the head and cause no significant damage?
11/9/2005 7:41:13 PM EDT
[#14]
I would speculate that it is not distance but angle.  straight up, straight down

terminal velocity anyone?
11/9/2005 7:43:20 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I would speculate that it is not distance but angle.  straight up, straight down

terminal velocity anyone?



Obviously a bullet going at terminal velocity would cause harm, but so would a penny.

I meant a .223 fired at a normal, but slightly exaggerated aim.
11/9/2005 7:44:09 PM EDT
[#16]
I'll hold your beer for you.

11/9/2005 7:45:40 PM EDT
[#17]
...or if you were standing outside a small town where a firefight was going on.  How far away could you be, and be struck by a random .223 fired in the town, and have it cause you no significant damage.  Not a bullet falling straight down from above.

There might not be any such distance.
11/9/2005 7:51:45 PM EDT
[#18]
www.processassociates.com/process/separate/termvel.htm


Someone figger out the .223 55gr and let us know...I guess it would be an "ouch WtF was that!"
11/9/2005 8:00:26 PM EDT
[#19]
A 55gr .223 projectile can travel around 1800 yards when fired with the rifle at about 35% of elevation.  I would estimate, based on velocities, that it could produce a deadly wound to the temple out to at least 1500 yards, if you could somehow get the bullet to strike precisely in the temple.  If you were TRYING to do this, you would probably have to fire several thousand rounds to even get close.

-Troy
11/9/2005 8:05:57 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This has to be the dumbest thing I have read all day!




It's 10:30 on a Wed night...

You still have an hour and a half...





Nice save

11/9/2005 8:09:46 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
This has to be the dumbest thing I have read all day!




It's 10:30 on a Wed night...

You still have an hour and a half...





Nice save




I was waiting for you to come back and ask if I had another question...
11/9/2005 8:13:38 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
A 55gr .223 projectile can travel around 1800 yards when fired with the rifle at about 35% of elevation.  I would estimate, based on velocities, that it could produce a deadly wound to the temple out to at least 1500 yards, if you could somehow get the bullet to strike precisely in the temple.  If you were TRYING to do this, you would probably have to fire several thousand rounds to even get close.

-Troy



Ok, so if you were struck in the back of the head at say, 2000 yards, it would at best break the skin and make a bruise, but it would not penetrate the skull?
11/9/2005 10:14:12 PM EDT
[#23]
Maybe this will help you in your quest for knowledge.




____________________________________
The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.
11/10/2005 4:21:14 AM EDT
[#24]
Ha ha...  Empirical evidence would be better though, care to volunteer?

So, your answer is that yes, a 55gr .223 round will penetrate a human skull every time at 2000 yards.  That's interesting, and it counters with Troy's post, which I thought made sense.

11/10/2005 4:40:39 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
which I thought made sense.



While just my opinion, your comment above appears to be in conflict with this entire post.

Put down the crack pipe, stop hitting that joint and go on the wagon....., in a few years you might be qualified to apply for some.






(sense, that is)

Mike

ps - I wouldn't bet on it though.
11/10/2005 5:03:14 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
What is the approximate minimum distance at which you could be struck in the head by a .223 fired in your direction, and have it bounce off w/o causing any damage?

Is that even possible?  




87!
11/10/2005 5:15:08 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
which I thought made sense.



While just my opinion, your comment above appears to be in conflict with this entire post.

Put down the crack pipe, stop hitting that joint and go on the wagon....., in a few years you might be qualified to apply for some.






(sense, that is)

Mike

ps - I wouldn't bet on it though.



Your point is that Troy is on crack?

ETA:  Very useful post by the way.  Thanks for the insult...
11/10/2005 8:39:54 AM EDT
[#28]
How far you ask?
Ask Mr. Darwin, he's waiting for you.
11/10/2005 8:47:02 AM EDT
[#29]
I've asked my wife to help me solve this problem...... we'll start at 25 yards maybe 50 she's pretty hard headed.  
11/10/2005 8:49:07 AM EDT
[#30]
So, it is a personal question to ask the terminal range of a 55gr .223, and what the impact effect would be if you were struck outside of that range?

I was just wondering if the bullet slows down enough to not cause significant damage upon impact, or would it fall to the ground by that time.

Why in the world would people think I was somehow interested in trying it out myself?

Oh, and Rebel, a hearty F**K You to you also...


11/10/2005 8:51:43 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
So, it is a personal question to ask the terminal range of a 55gr .223, and what the impact effect would be if you were struck outside of that range?

I was just wondering if the bullet slows down enough to not cause significant damage upon impact, or would it fall to the ground by that time.

Why in the world would people think I was somehow interested in trying it out myself?

Oh, and Rebel, a hearty F**K You to you also...





Unless someone was actually trying their damndest to lightly tap someone in the head with .223 at distance, the round will hit the ground before slowing down enough.
11/10/2005 8:55:29 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Oh, and Rebel, a hearty F**K You to you also...






And a hearty F**K you as well.


I guess it was true, Al Gore did get computers in all the elementary schools.
11/10/2005 8:59:51 AM EDT
[#33]
Subnet:  Thanks, that was all I was curious about.   I don't see what all the personal insults are about.

11/11/2005 12:35:23 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Subnet:  Thanks, that was all I was curious about.   I don't see what all the personal insults are about.




You're welcome. Actually, the personal insults were hurled in your direction because in all honesty, it's kind of a stpid question. Or, it's a good question asked by an inquisitive idiot. I'll have to think about this.

(I keed! I keed!)

Honestly, if you had simply asked at what range .223 was terminaly effective, you would have recieved better answers - or maybe just a link to the ammo oracle. The funny responses were due in large part to asking how far out you had to be before the round bounced off your head. You have to admit, it's kind of a funny question. You can't let such a question die quietly. It needs to be lampooned and laughed at. It's the ARFCOM way.

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure someone could pull it off once every few thousand rounds or so, at the expense of a willing participant with an apparent death wish.
11/11/2005 12:43:09 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would speculate that it is not distance but angle.  straight up, straight down

terminal velocity anyone?



Obviously a bullet going at terminal velocity would cause harm, but so would a penny.

I meant a .223 fired at a normal, but slightly exaggerated aim.


Mythbusters disagree.

On a more serious note, maybe someone with a ballistics calculator can tell us what the velocity of a, say, 55 grain projectile with a muzzle velocity of 3240 f/s is at maximum range.